The Last Ten Years of Global Warming Never happened

*phew*

Good thing that there are no ultra-elite-exceptional droughts, just normal exceptional ones..

US Drought Monitor

More research here.

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There are no experimental data to support the hypothesis that increases in human hydrocarbon use or in atmospheric carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are causing or can be expected to cause unfavorable changes in global temperatures, weather, or landscape. There is no reason to limit human production of CO2, CH4, and other minor greenhouse gases as has been proposed (82,83,97,123).
We also need not worry about environmental calamities even if the current natural warming trend continues. The Earth has been much warmer during the past 3,000 years without catastrophic effects. Warmer weather extends growing seasons and generally improves the habitability of colder regions.

As coal, oil, and natural gas are used to feed and lift from poverty vast numbers of people across the globe, more CO2 will be released into the atmosphere. This will help to maintain and improve the health, longevity, prosperity, and productivity of all people.

The United States and other countries need to produce more energy, not less. The most practical, economical, and environmentally sound methods available are hydrocarbon and nuclear technologies.

Human use of coal, oil, and natural gas has not harmfully warmed the Earth, and the extrapolation of current trends shows that it will not do so in the foreseeable future. The CO2 produced does, however, accelerate the growth rates of plants and also permits plants to grow in drier regions. Animal life, which depends upon plants, also flourishes, and the diversity of plant and animal life is increased.

Human activities are producing part of the rise in CO2 in the atmosphere. Mankind is moving the carbon in coal, oil, and natural gas from below ground to the atmosphere, where it is available for conversion into living things. We are living in an increasingly lush environment of plants and animals as a result of this CO2 increase. Our children will therefore enjoy an Earth with far more plant and animal life than that with which we now are blessed.

for one its not global warming. its global climate change.

Flat earthers for some reason don't understand the difference.

like I've said before, if you believe your car exhaust isn't harmful, put a hose from your tailpipe to the cab, get in and turn the engine on, breathe deeply and post how well you're doing after a few hours.

It's a closed system, this planet. you burn things and put it into the atmosphere, the land, the water, how well do you think the planet can cope? How long before what we put in changes how the planet operates?

now, its not all man's fault, the planet does go through warming and cooling periods. but we aren't helping.

originally posted by: HauntWok
for one its not global warming. its global climate change.

Flat earthers for some reason don't understand the difference.

like I've said before, if you believe your car exhaust isn't harmful, put a hose from your tailpipe to the cab, get in and turn the engine on, breathe deeply and post how well you're doing after a few hours.

It's a closed system, this planet. you burn things and put it into the atmosphere, the land, the water, how well do you think the planet can cope? How long before what we put in changes how the planet operates?

now, its not all man's fault, the planet does go through warming and cooling periods. but we aren't helping.

First of all name calling does nothing but show your ignorance so all these people that like to label people and put them into groups are being immature. Second it is not a closed loop, first there are plants and a lot of them from trees to algae all of them use CO2 as an energy source, then there is the oceans them selves, sedimentation traps gases and stores them, then there is high altitude decomposition, Cosmic rays decompose molecular gases into other gasses or their base elements. Also You have between 5-300 tones of cosmic dust entering the atmosphere every day. Im not saying its a system in equilibrium but putting a hose from your exhaust to your car is not in any way an accurate way of describing this. Also all animals and fungi produce CO and CO2 as a product of respiration so try putting a bag around your head and see how well that works out for you. Or try standing in in the vent of an out gassing volcano. Any way my point being is it is much more complicated than we put CO2 in the atmosphere it stays there and we all suffocate.

a reply to: BGTM90

As i started in the last part of my post, its not all man's fault.

the earth goes through changes. that's why is called climate change and not global warming.

but hey, don't take my word for it, how was last winter for you? little colder than your used to? kinda odd right?

a reply to: HauntWok
Actually it was warmer but I live in the desert and climate is a measure of the average pattern of variation in temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, precipitation, atmospheric particle count and other meteorological variables in a given region over long periods of time. Not just the temperature over a couple months in a certain location.

2012 is the current record holder for lowest September ice extent, volume and area -- but 2014 is coming close to those records due to low levels of ice accumulation during the winter of 2013-14.

Currently, a high pressure area over the arctic is blasting the ice/slush with 24/7 sunshine. The latest reading from a buoy near the north pole: IABP ICEX Buoy 835100 latest weather data 07/02/1200Z 86.052°N 87.201°W 7.6°C 1021.5mb

That's 45.68 degrees Fahrenheit near the north pole. The scientists studying arctic methane are starting to look wild-eyed.

The Mackenzie Delta has been experiencing high temps in the 25ºC to 27ºC range for the last couple of days (75-82ºF) and the Northwest Territories are experiencing one of their worst recorded fire seasons.

In California, farmers with water are auctioning it off for millions. Richard Howitt, professor emeritus of agricultural and resource economics at UC Davis comments: "If you have a really scarce natural resource that the state’s economy depends on, it would be nice to have it run efficiently and transparently."

A recent paper shows that California farmers are sucking so much water from the San Joaquin Valley aquifer that it's "leading to substantial diminution of this resource and rapid subsidence of the valley floor."

And they note: "Our results suggest that long-term and late-summer flexural uplift of the Coast Ranges reduce the effective normal stress resolved on the San Andreas Fault. This process brings the fault closer to failure, thereby providing a viable mechanism for observed seasonality in microseismicity at Parkfield and potentially affecting long-term seismicity rates for fault systems adjacent to the valley."

In the US Midwest, this week's storms have caused wind and hail damage, and several rivers including the Mississippi are beginning to flood over. Currently, flooding is being reported in Iowa, Missouri, Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Kansas and the Dakotas. And Fairbanks, Alaska experienced it's wettest June on record and in Canada, prairie flooding prompts evacuations in western Manitoba
A total of 87 municipalities in Manitoba, Saskatchewan declare state of emergency.

Australia smashed its temperature record in the year to the end of June, beating a high set during the most recent El Nino weather event in the Pacific.

The Sydney Morning Herald reports -- "Buried in the Bureau of Meteorology’s monthly report on national conditions, the agency noted the 12-month mean temperature was a “solid highest-on-record” result.

In fact, mean temperatures were a full 1.08 degrees above the long-term average, smashing the previous record July-June anomaly by 0.18 degrees. The previous record was set in the 12 months to June 2010 – an El Nino period."

And speaking of the El Nino, a new Kelvin wave is being brought up from the equatorial Pacific by a strong West Wind Burst. The monsoon is definitely in trouble.

But don't worry, one paper contradicts 99.99% of the worlds scientists by saying there is no climate change going on.

Global warming is a religion and Al Gore is it`s profit...err prophet!

a reply to: HauntWok

for one its not global warming. its global climate change.

Its both. The terms are essentially interchangeable; and more formally its "anthropogenic Global Warming" and "anthropogenic climate change". Anthropogenic Global Warming means that more energy is being trapped by the atmosphere due to the 'greenhouse' gases that human activity is putting there. Anthropogenic Climate Change refers to the changes in climate as a result of the AGW.

Flat earthers for some reason don't understand the difference.

Perhaps that is because some people don't explain it correctly; one person tells them (the flat-earthers) the correct term is one thing, and another person tells them its another instead of treating them like adults and explaining the difference properly.

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It's a closed system, this planet.

No it isn't and that is a big part of the point.

The Sun is adding energy to the Earth system, 24 hours a day. It used to be that a sufficient amount of that energy was radiated back out to space to keep the total energy in the system relatively stable. Now more and more energy is being trapped by the gases inserted into the atmosphere by HUMAN Activity.

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now, its not all man's fault, the planet does go through warming and cooling periods. but we aren't helping.

Everybody knows there is natural climate change; the debate is about HUMAN CAUSED climate change, not natural climate change. Scientists go to great lengths to identify the consequences of HUMAN activity separately from the Natural causes. Unfortunately those natural causes do not account for the observed facts - they can dampen or amplify the change, but do not explain it.

Those people attempting to shift the debate to natural climate change are trying to deflect the discussion away from the central issue of HUMAN CAUSED Climate Change.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: redtic

The point is NCDC has been cooking the books making the temps higher. they said that 2012 was the warmest year but they went back and made 1936 the warmest again.

It's funny what people will do for grants.

www.amazon.com...

drtimball.com...

the deliberate corruption of climate science.

originally posted by: HauntWok


but hey, don't take my word for it, how was last winter for you? little colder than your used to? kinda odd right?

I am with you that it's not all mans fault, and what degree, remains to be seen, but did you seriously start off with 'flat earthers" and then jump into using 1 winter season to justify "global warming", "climate change", or whatever it's called today?

Just no.

a reply to: network dude

we all know that climate change is dynamic and happens over decades and not a single season. But flat earthers can't comprehend yesterday let alone climate changes over a long period of time.

got to give them short examples their puny brains can comprehend.

plus, i post from my phone, so it's hard for me to link and post as i would like.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Again and again I have to continue to flame out the constant cacophony of GLOBAL WARNING deniers. Here are the facts.
Fact one is that back in the 80's when scientist panicked when they found that the ozone layer was practically gone from the south pole, and the north pole layer was diminished badly, the cause had to be quickly determined. THEY found that the culprit was primarily man-made chloroflourocarbons (Freon/CFC) and almost immediately made governments do a world-wide switch to CFC 12.
Fact two is that these holes in the ozone allow both gamma, beta, and ultra-violet radiation into earths atmosphere. This being one of the main components of GLOBAL WARMING.
Fact four is that despite this emergency action, the holes persist (although not as problematic).
Fact five is that the industrialized nations in this world continue to dump trillions of cubic metric tons of soot, chemicals and gases into the atmosphere without mush control at all. (See China's pollution choked cities).
Fact six is pretty simple concerning the CLIMATE CHANGE debate. There IS no debate, because climates change. Climates have always changed. There is NO climate that has ever been shown to not have experienced change at some time in it's history. It's kind of like arguing about whether water is wet. The problem is that climate change should not be used as the best viable descriptor in interpreting our present dilemma. WE ARE WARMING and getting worse. It may already be to late to make a CHANGE. May GOD help us all!

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grimpachi

So before I go celebrating that there is no climate change I want to know which is it that is supposed to add to sea level.

The million dollar question. Good luck with that. Every year in spring time the ice and snow covering a million mountains and the ice at the poles recedes. Rivers overflow, plains flood, a deluge heads down stream…

…but sea levels remain constant.

If you get a satisfactory answer to that one, let me know.

Well it doesn't seem like I will get an answer. Maybe I should have rephrased my question to ask if the world is experiencing a net gain of ice each year or a net loss. BTW I did look it up and the sea level is rising the most recent measurement is from 2012 and it is said to be 2 cm a year then. I don't know if that has accelerated or decelerated.

From all my reading and watching of videos it seems the country to watch that shows the changes most prominently would be Greenland. If one wants to do research on the subject that seems to be the best place to start. Now when I looked up Antarctic water displacement by ice I found that much of the sea ice that is being talked about is only centimeters thick and they are not expecting the glaciers to recoup the Ice loss from the summer. So I think that means we are still talking about a net loss of ice this year.

originally posted by: Sunwolf
Global warming is a religion and Al Gore is it`s profit...err prophet!

....I'll get yer coat. (Shakes head)

a reply to: Grimpachi

BTW I did look it up and the sea level is rising the most recent measurement is from 2012 and it is said to be 2 cm a year then. I don't know if that has accelerated or decelerated.

Thanks for that. Averages again. Average temp, average this and that…

Net rise? I was just wondering (not at you) what the spring thaw adds to "sea levels" in the spring time. Should be hilarious considering all that melting snow pack on every mountain in the worlds "snow zone". Forget about the poles.

No one is addressing that?

a reply to: intrptr

I don't know how much mountain snow pack adds to sea level I don't think they try to average it like that. I think they go by regions like Greenland, the Arctic and so forth. Greenland has a lot of mountains as well as glaciers but maybe they have a way to measure snow-pack independently that I am not aware off. I know they said Greenland is responsible for 1/3 of sea level rise Antarctica is probably up there as well.

Gasp!

The end is nigh. The end is nigh!

Quick repent your wicked ways!

We have to save the planet !

Global warming is a HOAX where the 'science' was hijacked with political pundits..

With no other reason for power, and control.

Global warming is just another means to and end of controlling US.

Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. In Defense of Women (1918

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Now that 'Global warming ' is now a political issue.

A quote to remember that covers quite a lot of topics.

How the Global Warming Scare Began



Published on Mar 12, 2014

A great scientist named Roger Revelle had Al Gore in his class at Harvard and the Global Warming campaign was born. Revelle tried to calm things down years later, but Gore said Revelle was Senile and refused to debate. John Coleman documents the entire story and shows how our tax dollars are perpetuating the Global Warming alarmist campaign even though temperatures have not risen in years and years.
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Ontario, Canada: A Mirror of America’s Economic Future Mortgaged To Falsified Climate Science.

by Dr. Tim Ball on June 5, 2014
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“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

Maurice Strong