Weird California sighting

a reply to: Astr0

Mmm hypersonic blimp...

a reply to: IamSirDrinksalot

It's not an airship, nor is it antigravity before anyone says it.

a reply to: Astr0
What that mean a show stopper sorry I don't understand the sens

a reply to: darksidius

It means really amazing.

a reply to: Astr0

Does your NVG pick up IR?

originally posted by: B2StealthBomber
a reply to: Astr0

Does your NVG pick up IR?

The newer generation does. The IR looks like someone using a flashlight though the NVG. The Russians made use of a large number of IR devices in the 1980-90's.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Cool thank's , so LM/BO are in the starting block to win the futur LRS-B contest if their bird work well, its realy a big contract and surely a lot of job for the winner, Lockheed will be full if they win with Boeing, a lot of job with F-35 and surely some Black projects , I think Northrop will win another thing like uclass IF they lose the contest of te bomber in final all of the company will win a lot of work.

a reply to: darksidius

There are at least three major programs besides the F-35 all going on right now that have been mentioned on here. There might be more, but I can think of three off top of my head.

a reply to: buddah6

My Russian Gen 1's can see IR pretty good too. Looks like a spot light in the view finder.

a reply to: IamSirDrinksalot

Now, I could be mistaken, but I believe this: www.abovetopsecret.com... is the propulsion method/airframe that Astr0 is hinting at.

a reply to: Sammamishman

If I'm remembering correctly, if you set the lights up right, and they're a certain frequency, it might be color, then it blurs the hell out of the outline through NVG systems and cameras.

a reply to: darksidius

I think Boeing's manufacturing prowess also played a part in locking up a contract for the LSR-B. LM and NG can manufacture larger quantities of jets but not to the magnitude Boeing can in the number the AF are talking about and in a shorter time frame.
I wonder if they can convert the C17 line in Long Beach to B-3's

a reply to: Sammamishman

I don't see why they couldn't. It would require modification, but it would for any other type as well.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: IamSirDrinksalot

It's not an airship, nor is it antigravity before anyone says it.

Lighter than air. hmmm aerogel solidified inside a carbon shell? I wonder if thats it.

a reply to: Sammamishman
Lockheed has a high experience in high speed aircraft, and Boeing has a lot of interesting projects too FA/XX, X-51 I realy think the two company together can create something realy at the top of the technology, I ask myself a question what company can be the leader for the airframe design Skunk or the Phantom team . They work together since the NGB and cancelled Blackswift surely a lot of work is done since that. Another contest surely is for the engine too Pratt or GE ?

originally posted by: darksidius
a reply to: Sammamishman
Lockheed has a high experience in high speed aircraft, and Boeing has a lot of interesting projects too FA/XX, X-51 I realy think the two company together can create something realy at the top of the technology, I ask myself a question what company can be the leader for the airframe design Skunk or the Phantom team . They work together since the NGB and cancelled Blackswift surely a lot of work is done since that. Another contest surely is for the engine too Pratt or GE ?

Boeing at this moment have hands down the best composite construction and development team. hands down. They learnt hard from the large pieces they tried to fabricate for the failed JSF design, and poured billions into their technology team.

Lockheed however have the team that nailed colour changing RAM and composites to the wall.

As for engines.. enough projects for every one to get a slice of the pie.

a reply to: Astr0

I'll bet the large scale 787 and 777 composite structures didn't hurt either.

Boeing makes more per year (13+B annual income in 2013) than LM and NG combined (5.2B + 5.3B respectively).

Astro. I am getting really lost on what it was I saw. The more I think about it the more I go in a circle trying to figure it out. Mainly, what's the deal with the link above referring to a post you made in another thread. I read it and thought to myself. Is this what I saw?

Explains some of my sighting. Not all of it. Like the "fog" that dissolved and the corona like ejection that caught up with the craft if that's what it was. But a lot of it. Or did I see something entirely different? Also, the popping sound as the air envelop closes behind whatever it was you were mentioning. You also asked me if I heard any strange sounds as it flew overhead. Related?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Astro. I am getting really lost on what it was I saw. The more I think about it the more I go in a circle trying to figure it out. Mainly, what's the deal with the link above referring to a post you made in another thread. I read it and thought to myself. Is this what I saw?

Explains some of my sighting. Not all of it. Like the "fog" that dissolved and the corona like ejection that caught up with the craft if that's what it was. But a lot of it. Or did I see something entirely different? Also, the popping sound as the air envelop closes behind whatever it was you were mentioning. You also asked me if I heard any strange sounds as it flew overhead. Related?

BASSPLYR, what you saw is nicknamed 'Phantasm'.

The technology has matured, evolved, and trickled down into a pre-production airframe that you have seen.

The 'Star' trailing it is actually a ball of Plasma. Its for defensive purposes, and yes, it can be created in any place and distance (up to 1000 yards) from the airframe.

The 'Black Triangles' have now been in operational use for just over 50 years now. Evolved, altered, grown in capability and capacity, but now its time for it to reach mainstream. Slowly.

All of this has roots in post ww2 research to design a rapid space access project (covert) (float your rocket to 120,000 feet or more and then launch)and parallel to this, a covert way to get a MIRV onto a target. Sounds hard when you are screaming along at such high speeds, but the original ablative surfaces managed it and then some.

The works of the teams went so black it rivalled the Manhattan project, and was lead primarily by the UK and US naval staff. A joint effort that went to UK, US, AUS, NZ and Canada.

Now its gone from ablatives, to electrically charged skins, onto ultra sound and now to the pinnacle, light. What you saw was frankly the pinnacle of design.

If the F-22 is 'Fifth Generation' in geek speak, the Phantasm is 9th. Easily.