Firefighter chases dog and both are missing 411?

a reply to: deadeyedick

. However if you want me to be crazy then i would say the friend is a shapeshifter.lol

What's so crazy about that?

( turns into a bat, shrugs and flys away )

a reply to: deadeyedick


deadeye here is a thought to add to your scenerio.......if the friend planned to kill him would he do this in a place he had never been doing an activity he had never done???

reports said he had never been there and it was his first camping trip......it is part of the equation should not be overlooked

a reply to: FistOfFreedom

Thank you Fist for some great contributions.

a reply to: randyvs

LMFAO ...batty, batty, batty boy!

any real updates yet? Hope dudes family is keeping high spirits hope this guy doesnt end up in a book that is strange, scary and tragic to think about!

a reply to: Brotherman

Did you just fall in to this thread from the bar two doors down?

Hi, brand new to the forum, and excited to be here

Due to a crazy 6 month old baby I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but I wanted to address one comment regarding the hiking partner not having any experience, and being new to the area.

If you check out his Instagram that was posted here, and the few pictures you can see on his facebook account you will see this is untrue. This young man was well trained in martial arts, an avid hunter/gun owner, experienced hiker and camper. He even makes a reference to hiking "above Arcadia", although I'm unsure of the exact location.

The fact that it was reported he was new to hiking and had to purchase new gear for this trip, even though it's obvious he's familiar with the outdoors, is one of the many reasons I'm throwing a whole lot of side eye at the hiking partner.

I'm so happy to have found a site where people are able to have open discussions, and looking forward to delving in deeper later on tonight.

a reply to: Fancypants

Well we welcome you and your six month old Fancypants.
And that's a great heads up contribution in favor of the
less popular summations involved here.

Great screen name BTW.

a reply to: Fancypants

Hi Fancy:

I haven't been here too long myself, but I will tell you that it is a good place to have a voice.

I feel your pain with the new baby...it has been awhile but i feel your pain.

Good Luck!

a reply to: randyvs

There have been plenty of clever postulations on this thread.

Personally, my gut sense STILL IS that it's a David Paulides type case.

I don't expect a lot of resolution. The autopsy should be interesting . . . assuming it's disclosed.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: randyvs

There have been plenty of clever postulations on this thread.

Personally, my gut sense STILL IS that it's a David Paulides type case.

I don't expect a lot of resolution. The autopsy should be interesting . . . assuming it's disclosed.

I think it will tell us a lot if they just let this story fade and fail.
Fail to follow up and let it fade. Altho nothing definitive. It
will tell me that it's just to odd to disclose.

a reply to: Fancypants

good catch fancypants,and welcome! someone asked if they were talking about that he didn't know have experience in that area wjhere they were hiking or in general....thanks for clarifying ....I saw in an article that the missing (now dead) man was meticulous when planning these trips.



approx time of death and cause will give us something to work with......like the other poster says hope it doesn't just fade away.

a reply to: randyvs

No problem, it's a xpost from another thread a year back.

I have gone on many long and challenging hikes in that type of terrain in my life, and maybe not too far from where this happened. So while I'm no expert on this particular case, I can tell you that it seems very strange to me: (1) The place they found his body - 1200 feet up. Why climb that far? There's no way a dog would have gone up that far and that steep. If he did climb up that far on his own, my guess is that he had made it to the top and then fell back down and died from the fall. (2) Don't believe the dehydration theory. 1200 feet up the side of a canyon is not where you look for water, especially if there's a river at the bottom. (3) I love firefighters as much as the next person but the hero worship for first responders in the media is WAY over the top. If he was found with any illegal substances in his bloodstream, there's no way they would ever let that news leak out. (4) I heard they've already said that "we may never find out what happened." This is ridiculous at this point. We don't even know the cause of death yet and already they are saying that? This whole thing is a CROCK of (expletive deleted by author).

originally posted by: FistOfFreedom
The noise I heard was the same noise I heard on a youtube video of bigfoot noises while messing around on the computer.

Bigfoot has a computer!?

1200 feet up. Why climb that far? There's no way a dog would have gone up that far and that steep

I thought it was he was 1200 ft higher in elevation, 3/4 mile from camp. it's not as thought they left and climbed straight up a 1200 cliff. was the distance of what could have been a fall even mentioned?

a reply to: roadgravel

I'm amazed at some of the ignorance going here
now that they found the body. Is it so hard for these
folks to understand?

People, Mikes body was found 1200 ft up.
Seeing that a body can't fall up, it is safe to
assume that for a fall to occur? Mike would
have to climb up a lot further, than 1200ft.

originally posted by: megabogie
a reply to: YogaGinns

Thank you for that explanation. I always thought firemen worked very rigorous schedules and rarely had 2 days off at one time, let alone 4. I appreciate your response.

I am not sure that this is how every fire department works, and the schedules could be more rigorous in larger cites, but I'm just giving my perspective.

I have great respect for all first responders, both because of my Dad and through personal experience, that's why I am so drawn to this case.

In my mind I want to believe it is all just a matter of him making several bad choices and suffering the consequences. But it's the little hairs on the back of my neck that makes me think there is more to this then we are being told. We are never going to learn the total truth, and it may well go down as one the many "unexplained" cases already outlined in the 411 books. My 2 cents worth anyway.

Namaste,
YogaGinns

a reply to: YogaGinns

Your presence here commands respect my lady.



a reply to: lindalinda

Bigfoot has a computer!?

Maybe it's just a smart phone

a reply to: research100Yes i think the location was not something to get caught up on. However i would believe that randy just turned into a bat if today was friday 13 full moon. I do not think that the wife was involved other than planning and persuasion and now payoff. I am getting that the guy was counting down to the day. Sort of building up some kind of power as the days went bye and that diet was involved. However this aspect of the whole thing will only serve to keep him free and should not be focused on because the truth is a man lost his life to antoher man and crazy talk will get this whole thing blamed on an annocent bigfoot lengend. i also think that his journey to death started not by chasing a dog from the campsite but started at the car and ended where he was found. It was not his prints running from the campsite. Also one of them had a gun at the camp. I think .22 or .38