so how is online piracy justified again?

a reply to: AnarchistoOfTheNorth

It's simple: piracy is when you copy it. If you buy and lend it out, it is still one copy. If you play it and others hear it, it is still but one copy. If you make 10,000 or one copy and give them away... that is piracy. If you make a copy to preserve your original and just play the copy, that is not piracy. Got it?

Making copies and distributing, or downloading copies illegally are acts of intellectual theft.

If you buy a book and loan it out...not piracy. If you buy a book and resell it...not piracy. If you buy a book, make copies and sell or give them away... piracy. Get it?

probably the part that bothers me the most is the fact that so many warez/torrent/download sites make money (it doesn't matter how much, even if it's one cent) by simply hosting or uploading copyrighted content, and those kind of sites obviously attract a good amount of visitors because of the stuff they host. thereby in a way cashing in on other people's works while denying the author their compensation

At the end of the day, piracy doesn't matter.

There will be the bleeding hearts just aching to appease the rich company overlords; but I personally don't give the slightest damn. I'm a fiction writer, I have a book up on Amazon right now. If people decided to pirate it, good, I don't care. It might actually be better for me in the long run. At least I know they want to read my story.

Fact of the matter is, so called "piracy" isn't as sinister as some think it is.

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: AnarchistoOfTheNorth

It's simple: piracy is when you copy it. If you buy and lend it out, it is still one copy. If you play it and others hear it, it is still but one copy. If you make 10,000 or one copy and give them away... that is piracy. If you make a copy to preserve your original and just play the copy, that is not piracy. Got it?

Making copies and distributing, or downloading copies illegally are acts of intellectual theft.

If you buy a book and loan it out...not piracy. If you buy a book and resell it...not piracy. If you buy a book, make copies and sell or give them away... piracy. Get it?

If I were to download a copy that someone 'lent' to me and I used that instead of an original copy, is that not the same a a friend lending me a physical copy? Or the same as me making a copy of my original and using the copy only that I cut out the physical work of making a copy myself.

Honestly, the truth is, many people just don't give a crap. Overpriced albums for one song, huge prices for new release movies, people are fed up with the entertainment industry, and I don't blame them. The entertainment industry through greed and arrogance has begun to make itself irrelevant in the distribution of their product.

It's simple, really. Stop pissing people off, and people will start buying your product. Offer something good at a fair price and people will buy it. Actually work hard and go out on tour, instead of just sitting on your ass after releasing a song and thinking a few weeks of your time entitles you to a never ending stream of cash.

Consumers used to be a captive audience in the sense that there was no other way to get music or movies other than to buy them. The industry took advantage of that situation and started offering people horrible value for their money. So people stop buying it and start downloading it.

If you want to talk reality, the only thing that will put a big dent in piracy is these companies realizing they no longer have the power to take advantage of their customers, people are going elsewhere. Start offering better quality products at a better price point and people will buy it. That's the reason people are happy to pay a few bucks to download an MP3 now. We couldn't do that until the industry got off it's ass and started selling via the single MP3 format.

1. It is a simple fact that we live in a vastly connected world with the internet
2. copyright laws are completely unenforcable because of #1
3. its all about money

Should people be compensated for their works? Without a doubt they should!

Is the current business model for entertainment arcaic and obsolete in our connected world? (my opinion) = yes

I dont think piracy is the disease, i think it is a symptom of an outdated business model that is continuously propped up even though it can't be.

Most "piracy" is through torrents these days and while it isn't anonymous and your ip address is plainly visible identifying you, the sheer number of folks who partake in downloading copies makes it virtually impossible to enforce copyright laws.

The business model needs to change.

When internet and computer is given to me free of charge, i will think about it.

a reply to: MeteoraXV

Nothing wrong with sharing bud.. Information should be free... and in sharing nothing is taken from the original owner. If you build a house and I copy the design what is wrong with that. It is not like I am robbing your car or something.

If we had the kind of attitude we have today in caveman times. We would still be climbing trees. We are social creatures by nature. For silly copyright laws a drug will not be released in a poor country. In reality it could be made for pennies. These silly outdated laws cost lives..

Look at the porn industry there is porn available all over the net for free. It is still made and they still make a profit. If the porn industry can do it so can others..

purp..