Ok let's do it! Let's fast! Who's in?

a reply to: jinni73

My mothers family name means children of the lime(lind)tree. seems relevant that I should be working with lime

Ok day one, 6pm here, not hungry at all, stomach making strange noises, but no signs of exhaustion or weakness. On the other side of things feeling much lighter and less stressed out, this morning standing in a huuuuge cue at the bank, people were perspiring with stress, anger and anxiety, cursing and all(it is a full moon effect!), but myself was pretty calm and happy, which I normally wouldn't be.
Did a brief half hour meditation which went incredibly well on an empty stomach, mind was not tense or thought filled, just sunk into it without having to battle with the ego first as I normally would at the beginning of the meditation.
I was tempted to knick a few blueberries from my kids as they look really good, being the seasonal fruit, but I successfully refrained!
So far so good, we shall see what tomorrow will look like.
Anyone else do it, forgot to do it, or simply could not? Freely share findings.
Lol

I had a light lunch. Thought I would go with the moon thing!
So now I am having fruit and fruit juices if I'm hungry....so far nothing...7.30GMT. I'll have dandelion coffee if I really get pangs before bed. Tomorrow its fruit all the way with water, green tea, dandelion coffee. Then Sunday....water all the way hopefully!

I have taken on board not to 'shock' my system. So depending how I go Sunday, Monday will be wash, rinse, repeat of Sunday, then Tuesday a repeat of Saturday, and Wednesday a repeat of today.

I'll keep you posted.

Rainbows
Jane

Thanks for the report! You seem to be doing quite well and good to break it down into steps. Lol
To me it did not come as such a shock, as I've slowly been weening off food all week. Is it plausible that our need for food is more of a psychological one rather than physical? I'll do some research on that. I can tell that some toxins may be accumulating and on their way out, itchiness in bowel. I also find less need for food when I spend time absorbing sunlight. If plants are being fed on it, surely it has got to be able to contribute to our energy levels. Found an article of a 69 year old man who lived on sunlight for 11 years. english.pravda.ru...And I guess it has been achieved, however this differs from individual to individual. Humans need to evolve much more towards the ability to do such things.

Experience is the best research, first hand. No google involved.
a reply to: angelchemuel

OK, woke up hungry

So I've had tea, banana and small glass of tropical fruit juice.

Off on my bike ride now

Rainbows
Jane

Me too! Last night meditation was great, and had vivid dreams which I clearly remembered in the morning.Yoga was easier to do.Was not so hungry when I woke up, but dizzy and a massive headache, so had some fruit and nuts. I suppose it would be easier if I wasn't in charge of a 2 year old toddler who's super-motor driven. Next time I do this I'll make sure I'm alone and can take time to rest. Perhaps tomorrow I'll try again. So made it for 1 day! And am glad I tried it, requires some preparation physical and mental. You're steadily keeping a balanced rhythm though, good for you! Cheers. I bet there are others doing it at this time,but would not report! a reply to: angelchemuel

This is tough!!!!!

Back from bike ride......bloomin' starvin'!
3 cherry tomatoes on some spinach leaves very lightly drizzled in olive oil with garlic, oregano and dijon mustard mixed together......and a hard boiled egg....all on a small side plate..... washed down with another glass of tropical fruit

I'm not going to berate myself though.

I'm sticking to it! Might not get to the water stage quite as soon as I had planned!

Rainbows
Jane

PS. Since my post, I've had a cup of dandelion coffee to be sociable with a friend who called in. I am now feeling very fat and bloated! Is that 'normal'????

I guess! I just got back from coffee with a friend! And ate a chocolate mousse I made this morning, suddenly got urge to prepare delicious unhealthy foods! I have to say the coffee didn't sit too well. But otherwise am still feeling the benefits from yesterdays proper fast. So I'll try tomorrow for sure. What the hey it's saturday had to have a good time right?

a reply to: priestess22

Now look here Mrs.....you started this, and you are our leader!!!
What kind of inspiration are you when you tuck into a coffee and flippin' chocolate moose! At least mine was a dandelion coffee!
Saturday??? Saturday??? What's that got to do with it???
Sheesh!




Rainbows
Jane

I know, I know.. Well I never promised I would do the whole thing, but I couldn't run after my son all afternoon fainting at every corner. This is an experiment after all. And I admit I failed. A bad leader I am too, everyone else has gone poof! If the follower has done better than the leader, than it must be a success? Have a good evening! Lol
a reply to: angelchemuel

a reply to: priestess22
Does this mean I can have a rum and coke for your chocolate moose...pleeeeease?

Rainbows
Jane

Please do! And I bet some will report to having done the full three days tomorrow, and we'll be beaten on the head! My conclusion is that health is about being happy. And I'm sure when next given the opportunity to really do this properly without distractions, it will bring me great happiness to do it right. A great Kriya master Paramhamsa Hariharananda said we needn't give up anything to become enlightened only to see the light in everything.
a reply to: angelchemuel

a reply to: rickymouse

It's possible your liver and kidneys were just going through the herxheimer effect

I wouldn't trust the RDA as its different for everyone as we all have different metabolisms some are grain (alkaline) based others meat (acidic) based

I would look at how much sodium is required for the water you are intaking as this is synchronistic, and a normal body needs 4 times the amount of potassium as sodium,

If you are looking into the thyroids Iodine and Boron are essential for those, boron balances your hormones and Iodine is replaced by bromine, chlorine and fluorine in the body,
Also look into sulphur this is needed for the amino acids to work, organosulphur flakes are the only product that works as MSM has lots of additives in and doesn't work nearly as well, the best way to get sulphur is to grow your own onions and carrots and blend these up no heat raw and a slow blender as the centrifugal force of a blender can heat up and destroy any of the goodies that you are trying to get into your body, onions also contain lysozymes which is the stage up from penicillin
Fertiliser restricts the uptake of sulphur and boron so any veggies or fruit contains very little of both of these essential elements

Also research alpha lipoic acid I've heard this is very beneficial for brain damage and also fulvic acid this is about the best detox you can get it also makes cells as well as loads of other things, you've also got humic acid but i haven't done any research on this but I believe its similar to fulvic acid

and another thing to do with the brain is you could research B6 B9 & B12 all are essential for the brain and looks like one of the reasons we get dementia

I've noticed coffee being used as an enema to clean out the liver

a reply to: priestess22

They are both really good for detoxing it is just what type of detox you want to do,
starting out I would always want to protect the liver though from the herxheimer effect, zeolite is similar to bentonite clay. chlorella would extract the toxins through the liver though so unless you are going to juice your veggies I would leave that till you've done a few fasts and got your body used to it.

The thing with most of the products that are available for us to buy is that they have additives put into them and this diminishes there effect in our bodies Take MSM versus Organosulphur flakes MSM does not work in curing high blood pressure yet the flakes completely healed everyone with this condition in a certain experiment.


your body stops feeling hungry after 3 days of fasting.

a reply to: jinni73

My brain has recovered well, but the TLE still exists. I can control that with food choices half way decent. The problem is that the foods that control it best have side effects with my metabolism. Just like the medicines I was taking did, but at least I can regulate the consumption, something I couldn't do with medications.

I found that I cannot eat much carbs or sugar or the noise in the head increases. The noise I have found to be something I can use to identify the state of the TLE. I also can smell asparagus pee, so I can tell the state of the calming compounds in my body from this class of foods. I can eat potatoes to regulate the TLE, the chemicals in them seem to counteract the glucose it contains. Also many sulfur foods work, I utilize these quite a bit. I also have studied all the goiterogenic foods and tested those, some work all right but this kind of food does have more side effects and some of them are bad. I get plenty of vitamins, although I was locked out for a while a couple of years ago. I got that fixed. I don't seem to get enough minerals though, the body doesn't seem to take them out of food well anymore. I have always had low stomach acid, Going back for as long as I can remember. Boron deficiency may be possible. I have some Betaine hydrochloride pills I take once in a while and also I learned to have some pickled beets around. The beets seem to stimulate the production of stomach acid pretty well, sometimes a little too well.

The potatoes supply all the potassium I need but also a little too much of the hormone that calcifies soft tissue.

The only remaining problem is the liver not working right so I can't eat certain foods anymore. Those medications are hard on the liver. The kidneys took a toll also, they got damaged a little, now I pee out all my salt. I have tried a lot of things to fix that, but making sure I eat enough salt is the only thing I can do. Maybe this is why I need extra minerals, maybe they also exit the body causing a deficiency instead of the kidneys filtering them out. Darn pills sure messed these two organs up. If I had not read the report from the hospital from the MRI with die, I would not have known that a large portion of the liver calcified. The medications caused that, the ones from a few years earlier were clear. Even though they tested my blood every month, they could not tell it was doing this to the liver. The reason for the tests was to see if the liver was giving off a dying chemical, it calcified instead of dying.

I tried to find information on the linden tree flower used to treat epilepsy but couldn't find anything. the second link did not work. I searched at least twenty sources to try to find the info on this. It does do some calming stuff, but I would like to know which method of chemistry is present. I don't like the dopey effect of some of the foods and herbs, I like to think clearly.

a reply to: priestess22

This is some new information. It seems that there was a metabolic pathway that was not known of before. When we fast for twelve hours it seems as we loosen LDL from our fat cells to burn it. It would show elevated levels for a while. But if we do this consistantly, the LDL levels will lower in our bodies over a period of time. Seems that they were stuck in a rut making assumptions on what they thought they knew and weren't investigating it further. Now, eyes will be opened and people can fix the problem instead of treating the symptoms. I wonder if medical science will accept this information, after all it will lower their income base.

www.sciencedaily.com...

Well great news for diabetics, it seems? I'm beginning to think that gradually decreasing the intake of food daily would be a better way to slowly introduce these positive changes, rather than the aggressive water fast, but not sure if a study has been done on that perspective.a reply to: rickymouse

I did a four day fast when I was locked up, it was no joke

a reply to: rickymouse

the info on the linden tree i think i found in a book ill try and get the title for you these are what my notes say on the flowers
contains quercitin, rutin and kaempferol, volatile oils, muccilage. p.coumaric, caffeic and chlorogenic acids amino acids are alanine, cysteine and cystine, phenylalanine. alkanes esters citral eugenol limonene carbs arabinose galactose glucose mannose xylose gum polysaccharides & lots of tannins.
This book stated that the action of the linden tree for epilepsy was so strong that legend has it that just sitting under the tree when in bloom was enough to get rid of epilepsy, Obviously there are different types of epilepsy so if you can source some flowers then its probably worth doing an infusion and just applying it to your skin to see if there is a bad reaction and then ingesting a tiny amount and waiting a few hours to see if is suitable for you. if this works for you then let me know and ill give you the information on storing and preserving the flowers over a long period of time (I think you will just get the end of the flowers as they fall of in june) without them losing any of there activity as freezing kills stuff over time and drying is no good as you lose upto about 90% of the activity

A couple of other things that might help, to stimulate your kidneys get your thumb and massage in small circular movements on your kidneys this will boost there function.

An old aboriginal trick is to bury someone in the ground for about 3 hours up to the neck this will remove a lot of the poisons in your body and is great for a detox. this will also help with rebalancing the electric in your body and getting it in sync with the earth. best to use good soil though a good indicator of soil quality are stinging nettles they only grow in good soil.

Milk thistle juice combined with honey, honey takes minerals far deeper than anything else into your tissues, sourcing proper honey is a bit tricky though the pollen has to be sourced from flowers grown in good soil and the producer cannot apply any heat in the making of it (Jarrah honey is the best honey on the planet apparently)
another way to get things past your liver and kidneys is to sublingual them. also if you want to get minerals and stuff directly into your brain you have a cluster of blood vessels in the side of your mouth, upper lip and gum half way back.

I think the lakhovsky machine will help you a lot as ive said but you could get a 30 cm piece of copper in a horseshoe style and wear this this concentrates the energy around whatever you put it on or under (amazing for growing plants apparently).

Then another thing that is outside the box is the effect of the pyramid just using cardboard to make a pyramid is enough to resharpen the blade on a razor, sleeping under one i also imagine would concentrate the energy around us that would help us heal.

beetroot juice is very good for the liver as well.

If you are buying your veggies and fruit from a supermarket then you are more than likely buying dead or at least completely useless food even organic has been proven to be no different to normal food.
anyone serious on curing themselves of any ailments has to grow their own food and herbs. source from a horticulturalist/herbalist whereby you guarantee to get genuine seeds I have heard that monsanto have genetically modified around 200 fruits and veggies to include solanine this is poisonous for the human body and enables the food to grow through the night.

also do not use any fertiliser make your own as fertiliser appaently is the reason disease is so high with the enforcing of the use of it in 1954 by all the governments of the world over the next 5 years disease in humans allegedly went up 4000%

a reply to: jinni73

Good information there. I had a rock fall apart here and the ground became loaded with stinging nettle. The seeds were in the rock, a clay rock covered with a black coating of some kind. They spread around now, I wonder how long the seeds were in that rock. Lots of rocks here turn out to be clay balls after the coating disappears, and inside some are other rocks. I did research and found that the ancient people all over the world stored seeds this way, even food. This is before clay pots were made. But some cultures kept this tradition up till a couple hundred years ago I guess, so it is impossible to know when these rocks were formed. I guess seeds can last thousands of years that way....clay protects everything from bacteria and fungus. Living on an old Indian ceremonial site has stimulated my interest in learning the truth. I find there is a lot of deceit nowadays.

I am not afraid of solanine in moderation, I grew up eating damaged potatoes, the good potatoes were sold and the green ones were tossed away. So the plant defense chemicals of the potatoes are actually what I need. You see, my ancestors did this for many generations and the body counteracts this in future generations. Anotherwords, I was mutated to need a different diet than most people who ate good potatoes, so was my father.

I know alternate sources for a few of those chemicals. Linden trees are not around here, I would have to buy the extract to get them. Maybe the coop will have it or there is a herbalist within five miles I can talk to.

The yard is full of thistle, some reaching nine feet high. They look like bull thistle, but bull thistle aren't supposed to grow that high. I think they were brought here long ago by someone for medicinal purposes, or of course, the seeds could have been in a rock and they spread. I have actually been trying to get the burdock to grow where I want them to grow, that is kind of hard. I have picker bushes all around here. I hate trimming the yarrow, and the clover is great in the yard, I go out and mingle with the bumblebees. I had to wake a bee one day that fell asleep on a flower, must have been pretty tired. No more chemicals will ever be sprayed on my land. I have decided that I would rather have dandelions, daisies, clover and many other wildflowers around my yard than kentucky blue grass. The strange thing is my wife has come to think the same way.

When I go out with the weed eater in certain parts of the yard to trim some weeds, a chemical is released by some plant and I get the shakes in my hands really bad. I can't quite pin down exactly where it is though, I have many types of plants here. The shake is like parkinsons disease, and it also happens when I mow those areas with the riding mower or the push mower. I can't find any information about this on the net. It could be mushrooms also, I have many varieties of them around here, except real morels of course. I even have some squaw root growing on the side of a path, that is interesting stuff. The shakes last about a half an hour and then they are gone. If it was just with the weed eater, I would say the vibration was doing it. But, a riding mower.

I'm going to research the properties of all the chemicals you listed, I know four or five of them well already. I will also track down if any pharmaceuticals are made from this chemistry. A pet peeve of mine.