Consuming fats do NOT make you fat, Saturated fats are good for you

originally posted by: Korg Trinity
I didn't quote anything from WIKI... are you sure you are replying to the correct post?

I'm talking about science and about facts... I'm also talking from Experience...

You didn't quote any science, what you said was this:

originally posted by: Korg Trinity
It's all to do with massive overload and sustained intake of sugar.

Basically what happens is your body becomes apathetic to sugar, in effect your body becomes resistant to insulin.

Here's a paper about response to insulin which only attributes 25% of insulin response to adiposity, which I guess you could say adiposity is related to excess sugar intake, but I wouldn't say 25% correlation to adiposity infers "it's all about...sugar".

The metabolic syndrome: is this diagnosis necessary?

Values of insulin-mediated glucose disposal vary continuously throughout a population of apparently healthy persons, and a difference of ≥600% exists between the most insulin-sensitive and the most insulin-resistant persons. Approximately 50% of this variability can be attributed to differences in adiposity (25%) and fitness (25%), with the remaining 50% likely of genetic origin.

For example if someone was fat due to excess fat intake and didn't eat much sugar, then it would still be true that their insulin response is related to adiposity but it might have little correlation with sugar intake.

Even if it is 25% correlated to sugar intake, if it's 75% due to other factors, those need to be considered, such as activity level/exercise. I was a pudgy kid until I started walking back and forth to school and that activity level made a huge difference in my adiposity.

There'[s not much we can do about the genetic influence though.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Korg Trinity
I didn't quote anything from WIKI... are you sure you are replying to the correct post?

I'm talking about science and about facts... I'm also talking from Experience...

You didn't quote any science, what you said was this:

originally posted by: Korg Trinity
It's all to do with massive overload and sustained intake of sugar.

Basically what happens is your body becomes apathetic to sugar, in effect your body becomes resistant to insulin.

Here's a paper about response to insulin which only attributes 25% of insulin response to adiposity, which I guess you could say adiposity is related to excess sugar intake, but I wouldn't say 25% correlation to adiposity infers "it's all about...sugar".

The metabolic syndrome: is this diagnosis necessary?

Values of insulin-mediated glucose disposal vary continuously throughout a population of apparently healthy persons, and a difference of ≥600% exists between the most insulin-sensitive and the most insulin-resistant persons. Approximately 50% of this variability can be attributed to differences in adiposity (25%) and fitness (25%), with the remaining 50% likely of genetic origin.

For example if someone was fat due to excess fat intake and didn't eat much sugar, then it would still be true that their insulin response is related to adiposity but it might have little correlation with sugar intake.

Even if it is 25% correlated to sugar intake, if it's 75% due to other factors, those need to be considered, such as activity level/exercise. I was a pudgy kid until I started walking back and forth to school and that activity level made a huge difference in my adiposity.

There'[s not much we can do about the genetic influence though.

I agree with you.

But although I don't have the exact statistic to hand, I would bet my bottom dollar that the majority of obesity is down to an excess of sugar intake.

But as you rightly point out excess in fat will also cause you to be well... fat too

You are What you Eat!

Peace,

Korg.

i went on a carb free diet and lost about 30 pounds.

on a carb free diet you only count carbs not calories.
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my blood lipid levels and cholesterol levels went to normal.

The only problem with a carb free diet is its very expensive.

originally posted by: luciddream
Fat (and sugar) is bad for you because we consume excessive amount!!!

Imagine a hunter in the caveman era.... how often does he comes across meat whenever he can eat and sugar whenever he demand it or added to everything he ate?

we are saturated in excessive amount of calorie and we do not have enough activities to release those calories. instead we eat a big fat meal(big portions in a single sitting) with high amount of fat and sugar then we sit on the couch and drink beer(triglyceride, also fat).

Dietary fat does not make triglycerides. Eating fats make us satisfied. Our big problem is the excess calories and inactivity. Even then, the quality of your calories matter, excess sugars cause fat, alcohol is also as bad as sugars.

a reply to: an0nThinker

Also a healthy reminder, a spanking once a day is both good for you and exciting. Once ounce of semen, human or other wise absorbed orally will both make you look and feel younger. Sex is fantastic, use alcohol on the regular. A pack of cigarettes a day is in fact a good thing.

Also if you bath in the blood of the innocent you can truly live forever, sacraficing virgins though... That is a wives tale.

a reply to: Hijinx
Are you serious? There was no need to post that crass rant. If you disagree with me, post studies. Shame on you.