Five of the Most Dangerous Taliban Commanders in U.S. Custody Exchanged for American Captive

a reply to: ausername

Lol have pity for the next puppet, and hes going to be in a world of ...., obama has continued the pupet masters work.

Good luck on voting for jeb bush next time around, finish the trifecta of bushes.

No matter which way you choose to look at it , it will only make sense when you start to understand the Gladio A/B operation and understand that tptb are not American . Yea the Americans are just puppets in how the shots are called .Think Turkey ,Bulgaria ,An the Zionist and you might be on the right trail . Its a crazy crazy world we live in and we don't really know the why's and the how's of the matter

ETA here is part 4 ..you should track down all the episodes to get a good handle on it but if pt.4 sparks your intrest to understand how these things could happen then this is a rabbit hole to take .

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

A common mistake, Bush was indeed a very willing and compliant puppet president, Dick Cheney was actually in charge and the middle man between special, corporate, international, military and government interests... He was the puppeteer....

Obama is everything but a puppet, and it is a dangerous assumption, also dangerous to underestimate him and his administration, and their ability to literally unilaterally rule over this nation and congress.

But believe what you want, whatever makes you feel better.

Would you like some Kool-Aid?

We should just close Guantanamo. It's a damn travesty that we've had it open this long anyway.

An illegal, bullpucky prison camp holding people that we're not even sure are guilty of any crime anyway.

a reply to: links234

Yeah, why not go for it now?

They let these guys go, let's just free the rest and shut it down...

Better yet, let's give them visas and citizenship in the USA, and jobs at local 7/11s in major cities in the USA...

The strategy should be clear now, the Obama administration wants to end the war in Afghanistan, and to appease the Taliban, which will certainly return to power in that region. Basically undoing the whole war, and having our forces leave in disgrace, all who fought there fought for nothing in the end.

This captive was a willing participant in a plot to free Taliban detainees, it took years, and in the end Susan Rice claims they didn't have 30 days, it was that urgent to make this swap.

Just like that, soon we are right back where we were the day after 9/11.

The price for appeasment and weakness will eventually be high.

IMO

There is but one thing, that can morally be used,,against any of the Branch's of American Government,
and that is,



Otherwise it is illegal, and therefore a usurpation of Legal Government and must bear the brunt of such.

in my opinion.

a reply to: BobAthome

And its time to use it.

This is interesting, now congress is calling Obama's trade of the American for the terrorist, illegal as he didn't seek approval from congress to do the change.


Remember people US have a policy of no doing businesses with terrorist, so somebody broke the policy.

Repercussions will follow, but then again this will come from other terrorist groups, when it comes to congress they are nothing but bubble heads.

a reply to: marg6043
yes congress was suposed to get 30 day notice,,,
make one wounder why they,, needed him back so quick,,,

after the CIA station chief stunt.

what if one of them was a spy for the bad guys,,,but which one?

Can I just say that they couldn't have been that dangerous or important, since we haven't even bothered to bring them to trial yet. We just had them sitting there in Cuba for no reason.

originally posted by: amazing
Can I just say that they couldn't have been that dangerous or important, since we haven't even bothered to bring them to trial yet. We just had them sitting there in Cuba for no reason.

Praise every deity in whatevever dusty tome you elect as the correct one...THAT needed to be said.

No trial, nor move to a trial, equates itself roughly to "well, we don't really have a case at all, but we gotta keep some of ya'll imprisoned up in this place or else well, it's going to look like we don't have a good reason to keep it opened any longer." A joke, a farce, and a thumb in the eye to all of those American forefathers you feel like dragging up out of their tombs every other minute.

That being said, if these folk weren't inclined towards radicalisation and violent exhibitions of said radicalisation, then you can bet your bottom dollar that after the horrific internment and treatment they've faced for the past...decade...they might very well be looking at terrorism as a pretty decent catharsis.

Glad they got that young bloke home, by the way

a reply to: BobAthome

Wrong is right and up is down these days...

Obama needs impeached.....

People really should think before acting and jumping to conclusion

Personally I think it's pretty "obvious" that there must have been something else going on here... Something really really important must stand to be gained from all this otherwise it wouldn't have reached the very top and the policy would have not been over turned, congress being bye passed would also indicate that it was information that couldn't not be disclosed for security purposes

Otherwise none of this make an ounce of sense

Logical... Common sense etc

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
No matter which way you choose to look at it , it will only make sense when you start to understand the Gladio A/B operation and understand that tptb are not American . Yea the Americans are just puppets in how the shots are called .Think Turkey ,Bulgaria ,An the Zionist and you might be on the right trail .

No you're a million miles of the trail

Think global western cooperation and alliance and you might be on the right trail

The US needs it's friends and it's friends also have a say at the table

This American is not America anymore BS is just conspiracy... If America lead from the front without listening it would lose key allies in the west it has to bend a bit to make the alliance fair and work , they're not puppets in anything or to anyone, just BS to get average Americans hating there own government and that's the coming from the enemy of whom Gladio is against

originally posted by: links234
We should just close Guantanamo. It's a damn travesty that we've had it open this long anyway.

An illegal, bullpucky prison camp holding people that we're not even sure are guilty of any crime anyway.

Well.. You probably don't understand radical extremist Islam

I'm sure radical Islam will in turn for the closure stop blowing innocent people up and go for military targets instead.. When people that would slit your throat without a care in the world who believe they're going to 72 virgin don't want tell you something it generally takes a lot to extract .. While there maybe innocents on camp it not exactly a check point process, it take time to work out weather they maybe or maybe not and the consequence and implications of getting it right costs Lives

Sorry

And I'll probably get gunned for saying this... But these people are not like you or I, they're determined brainwashed animals who would give there life's in suicide attack regardless of innocent lives... You don't treat these people humanly and give them ice cream

IMHO, camps like this are important they should just be kept secret and out of public eye

originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: links234

Yeah, why not go for it now?

They let these guys go, let's just free the rest and shut it down...

Better yet, let's give them visas and citizenship in the USA, and jobs at local 7/11s in major cities in the USA...

You may not like it but links is right. America is supposed to be a nation that follows the law and Gitmo goes against those laws. Either charge then put them on trial or let them go. We also break the law there by torturing prisoners. Gitmo is an embarrassment. Jesse Ventura talked about it for a while.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

quote "camps like this are important they should just be kept secret "


Ask the guy in the stripped suit what he thinks of Camps.




And u know what,,bet he would say the same thing today.!

p.s guess who was in charge of the Camp, when that pic was taken, for bonus points,,,

dont say Camps.

a reply to: buster2010

Whether I like it or not is irrelevant now. All that matters now is the sequence of events that will follow all of this... The end result could be something that none of us will like.

We will have to wait and see....

Here is the rest of the story that Howard posted on yahoo.

were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday."