Not One More !

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

and thats the problem which your nation refuses to tackle not every citizen is fit a simple psychological questionairre would of stopped this kid buying his guns legally,he was a nutcase.

originally posted by: khnum
I am not aware of any 700 round per minute 30-30's or 45's

I guess you never saw someone fire a Thompson Submachine Gun with a rotary magazine.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Interesting now that was a weapon that ended up in some very irresponsible hands.

originally posted by: khnum
and thats the problem which your nation refuses to tackle not every citizen is fit a simple psychological questionairre would of stopped this kid buying his guns legally,he was a nutcase.

By fit I meant mentally and physically. The fact that the police never reported his disturbing prior actions is a failure on their part.

originally posted by: khnum
Interesting now that was a weapon that ended up in some very irresponsible hands.

If you mean the Treasury Department then I agree.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: khnum
I am not aware of any 700 round per minute 30-30's or 45's

I guess you never saw someone fire a Thompson Submachine Gun with a rotary magazine.

Even a lowly semi 1911 can crank out at a rate of 600-620 rounds per minute.

originally posted by: khnum
a a simple psychological questionairre would of stopped this kid buying his guns legally,

Why? Because mentally ill people aren't capable of telling lies on a 'simple psychological questionnaire? And if he couldn't get one legally, he'd just turn around and get one illegally. He had the money to be able to do so.


Stricter gun control laws only hurt law abiding citizens ... they only help criminals get away with more crimes because the law abiding population will become disarmed. Foreigners don't seem to understand that.

a reply to: FlyersFan

We banned military style rifles after several mass killings the last of which killed 35 and injured 23 since then the maximum amount of people killed in one single event is 2 citizens,you can spin it any way you want but tougher gun laws here have saved lives.

Now there are 250,000 illegal military long arms and 10000 rapid fire pistols in circulation so if im determined I can get an illegal weapon but your spur of the moment killers aren't in this market.

a reply to: khnum

Where is 'here'?? What country and city are you in? I'll look up the gun/murder stats ..

a reply to: FlyersFan

Here is Brisbane Australia.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Where is 'here'?? What country and city are you in? I'll look up the gun/murder stats ..

I found the per capita murder rate in Brisbane in 2010 (the only data I could locate) to be 5 per 100,000. Source

From the same source:

The rate of property offences, including fraud, identity theft and unlawful entry, in Brisbane Central was 15,555 per 100,000 properties – four times the state average of 4473.

...

The rate of assault was almost 10 times higher in inner-Brisbane than all other areas, with 1302 reports. Logan also was high, with about twice as many per capita.

New York City for the same period had a per capita of 4.5.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The gun laws in NYC are about the strictest in the US,try Chicago and yes the problem there is probably unregistered weapons in gangbangers hands

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

... yes the problem there is probably unregistered weapons in gangbangers hands

And they'd totally register them or turn them. I bet the P Stone Nation would be first in line.

a reply to: thisguyrighthere

I have no problems with concealed carry for responsible citizens in a place like that,what I am trying to argue,probably not all that well is to keep massive firepower out of the hands of irresponsible citizens hands.

a reply to: khnum

What's 'massive firepower'?

originally posted by: khnum
The gun laws in NYC are about the strictest in the US,try Chicago and yes the problem there is probably unregistered weapons in gangbangers hands

Up until this past January the Chicago laws were stricter than New York City's so there will not be comparable statistical data. It may be years before we have a solid understanding the effect they will have.

Texas is often considered to have the laxest gun laws (actually it is Vermont) so I will give you some of their per capita murder rates:

Austin 3.7

Arlington 4.5

Corpus Christi 5.1

Dallas 12.4

El Paso 3.4

Plano .04

San Antonio 6.4

Fort Worth 5.7

Houston 10.0

With the exception of Dallas and Houston most are on par with or lower than Brisbane and its draconian gun laws.


Source

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Are these all murders or just gun stats,yes people still get murdered here but its usually knifing or being bashed to death most gun murders are usually drug related or gang related like in your country,Sydney has a much bigger problem in this department than Brisbane.

originally posted by: Voyaging
a reply to: voyger2 Knives and a car were used as weapons as well... should we ban those too? The answer is no. What this country really needs is a better way to help it's mentally ill.

If anyone hears the story covered as ANYTHING BUT A SHOOTING, let me know. The full story is in some printed media, but it is called a shooting every time I hear it on the radio or on TV.

originally posted by: khnum

Are these all murders or just gun stats,yes people still get murdered here but its usually knifing or being bashed to death

As if this is preferable or better than dying from a gun shot wound?

originally posted by: khnum
Are these all murders or just gun stats,yes people still get murdered here but its usually knifing or being bashed to death most gun murders are usually drug related or gang related like in your country,Sydney has a much bigger problem in this department than Brisbane.

All murders. Why, does it really make a difference if you bash someone's head in or shoot them? The end result is the same. And if the gang thing is a concern it makes you look even worse since you claim to not have it and Texas is fortunate enough to be located directly across the border from Cartel Central.

Either way you slice it your claims are invalid. The murder rate in your home town is not noticeably better than many cities in a very pro-gun state.