Just wrote a new book on Skinwalker Ranch happy to answer any questions you may have here.

Why not crowd-fund a 24/7 hr set of cameras,infra-red,night-vision,pancake flipping,whatever we can line up and get a lve online feed started so we can all share this phenomenon,or is this not possible?

Keeping data hidden that could immediatly get critical internet attention to these spots is Non-Humanitarian ,others have likely already reasoned out the types of places you suspect,you are likely right,but it is the exposure that is critical.

originally posted by: Bloomoon
a reply to: hiii_98

There was a recent $5.5 million dollar multiprong environmental study done in an area close to the ranch. Do you believe the high rate of ozone in the area has something to do with the Skinwalker ranch? Also, there are a lot of gas and oil wells nearby (I believe about 8,000+) ... is there any relevance of the industry to the Skinwalker ranch? As recently as last week, awareness has been raised about a spike in neonatal deaths in Vernal. The spike is approximately 6x the national average in 2013. Do you believe there might be a connection to the Skinwalker ranch?

Thank you for your time.

personally YES I 100% believe there is a connection. The ozone above Skinwalker ranch (and in vernal and Randlette, Roosevelt) is HIGHER than a MAJOR city!!! Also the suicide rate and rate of cancer/mental illness is shocking high, especially directly around the ranch. The surrounding cities have abnormally high rates as well. This was NOT discussed in this book and I believe should be a topic if I write a third one. You are well in tuned to point this out! This is a alarming fact that does not fit the dynamics of the local environment (its a unpopulated dustbowl out there)

a reply to: hiii_98

You would know better....

But there is no such thing as coincidence!

Due to the untold number and frequency of unexplainable encounters this location has earned itself the name of Skinwalker Ranch. But the Skinwalker—a legendary creature feared back before the time of the Native Americans indigenous to the Great Basin—is only a small part of a phenomena that includes some of the most intense UFO sightings ever witnessed and recorded, inter-dimensional portals, intelligent orbs of energy, physical entities beyond identification and other real-life manifestations.

The above is from ur reply to me.... and i realize that all this hype ATM, all basically originated with the skinwalker:
definition: en.wikipedia.org...

In some Native American legends, a skin-walker is a person with the supernatural ability to turn into any animal he or she desires. To be able to transform, legend sometimes requires that the skin-walker wears a pelt of the animal. In most cases, this pelt is not used in modern times because it is an obvious sign of them being skin-walkers[citation needed]. Similar lore can be found in cultures throughout the world and is often referred to as shapeshifting by anthropologists.

So is this some kinda situation where it started with a skinwalker way back when, but fast forward to today and its ufo's, aliens, orbs, hi-tech stuff etc etc...

So its basically a progressive kinda thing? maybe the skinwalker was a mistake, an failed attempt at whatever it is that was being attempted.

Think about it, if an astronaut is sent into another part of the universe with different rules of nature, how would it look. would his very biology not need changing? i dunno man.... just food for thought!
what do ya think?

originally posted by: one4all
Why not crowd-fund a 24/7 hr set of cameras,infra-red,night-vision,pancake flipping,whatever we can line up and get a lve online feed started so we can all share this phenomenon,or is this not possible?

Keeping data hidden that could immediatly get critical internet attention to these spots is Non-Humanitarian ,others have likely already reasoned out the types of places you suspect,you are likely right,but it is the exposure that is critical.

that is a dream of mine to do one day. I think it would require one large investor. Perhaps I should setup a fund on my website. A camera that is on day and night and provides a live broadcast of the area around the ranch. Furthermore you can rent space on utility poles to mount the camera.

a reply to: one4all

The problem with this is that the place is guarded 24/7, and privately owned. Obviously you would need permission to do so, and with the way things sound, the owner is out to make money. Therefore I don't see what you have suggested as happening any time soon.

Good idea though.

I know I am super interested, and I plan on checking out the book.

Question: What is the most well documented paranormal thing that has happened there?

a reply to: combatmaster I think whatever it is molds itself to the common creatures of the environment it is in. I have been told by "insiders" that these skinwalkers also take the shape of deer and other common desert and woodland animals. What sets them apart is that they have no thermal signature on a FLIR camera... crazy huh?

just wanted to say that this is a cool thread. It feels like "old School" ATS, back when there where a lot more threads about the paranormal, ufos, crypto. deep dark govt secrets. Now a days its more political and somehow not as much fun. Thanks for this thread.

You say you felt like that glowing orb that started to move towards you had malicious intent somehow like you would be killed by it or attacked if you didn't run as fast as you could. Was this the same orb that you say appeared right after the telepathic message? If so then why do you feel they gave you the message? Were they sending the orb over to you to communicate and you just bailed on them, or where they luring you to hang around so that they could do something bad to you. like eliminating a pest. Think about it, if they feel like you are documenting too much why not treat you like a pest. and set up a trap?

Also how on earth did those nids guys sleep at night there? And what about the guards, what are their defenses against malicious behaviour of the entities, if there really is any.

a reply to: andr3w68 the most famous story surrounding the ranch is in Knapps book in regards to a massive wolf (remember wolves have not been spotted in Utah for over 100 years) that approached the previous ranch owner. He actually petted the wolf, which then suddenly attacked one of his cattle, tearing and gnawing at it hungrily. The rancher then shot the wolf point blank with several caliber guns and even a high power rifle, cause hunks of flesh to fly off the wolf which appeared unphased by the assault. It then walked off and vanished. The hunks of flesh appeared rotten and smelled.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
just wanted to say that this is a cool thread. It feels like "old School" ATS, back when there where a lot more threads about the paranormal, ufos, crypto. deep dark govt secrets. Now a days its more political and somehow not as much fun. Thanks for this thread.

You say you felt like that glowing orb that started to move towards you had malicious intent somehow like you would be killed by it or attacked if you didn't run as fast as you could. Was this the same orb that you say appeared right after the telepathic message? .

no whatever I saw after the message was football shaped and about the size of a small car (sorry I should have mentioned that) if you could take a Volkswagen and light it on fire with plasma that's about what I saw .

Also how on earth did those nids guys sleep at night there? And what about the guards, what are their defenses against malicious behaviour of the entities, if there really is any.

the researchers would commonly come down with radiation poisoning like sicknesses, from nonstop bleeding nose, heachaches, to consistent fits of vomiting. I have seen this happen first hand on several occasions to other researchers who accompanied me, but it has never happened to me. This one guy started puking up what looked like milk. These associated ailments is well documented in Knapps book

Hmm. I did get your book, btw. I haven't had the chance to read it yet, and I may do so only in the bright of day! lol!.

I would postulate that there is more than one type of phenomena surrounding the area. Are you calling the UFO/ET part of what goes on "demons?" - there are other entities that may fit that bill, but not folks from other planets, imo. You can argue that they are not from other planets, I suppose, but IF they are "ET" then it doesn't make sense to call them demonic. Should other planetary folks call us demons should we happen to visit them, perhaps through some future ability to travel/re-manifest through weird portals? I hope not! You kind of lost me on this... (My own experiences have led me to put these kinds of things in different baskets, you see...)

There is the obvious creepiness in the area: indestructible wolf creature, mutilations, and possible UFO activities along with the "indifferent science-type voices," black shadow people, the ice circle, weird footprints, intelligent orbs, etc.

Isn't it possible they are a multitude of things, not just denizens from "hell?" If there are separate phenomena coming from the same place, it would make more sense to me - but the whole thing seems oddly like a "manifestation rift" - (I just made up that term, lol!) what I mean is it seems phenomena can manifest physically though some unique and mysterious conditions that exist there - the circumstances of that are neutral - now WHO chooses to manifest, well, that is literally an "open door..."

What if the energy of the area is acting kind of like a "transporter" to our world through some unknown resonance or harmonic frequencies? That would explain a bit of how an "alien" could come through and be driving an innocuous looking RV vehicle (that is one story I have heard).

I know, I'm just poking around in the dark here, and that you are the one with the actual experience on the ground.

Thank you - I hope you will indulge me in this line of thinking? I would love to know your opinion...

Thank you!

peace,
AB


Oh - and also, before I forget, I'm confused on something you posted to someone else. You said you thought THEY (meaning who?) WANT people to come out there? The phenomena does? Or some part of it does? But then you also said "it" (which one?) is indifferent and seems irritated that people come and snoop around...would you clarify this for me? (I'm sorry if I'm asking you to repeat something...)

I would postulate that there is more than one type of phenomena surrounding the area. Are you calling the UFO/ET part of what goes on "demons?" - there are other entities that may fit that bill, but not folks from other planets, imo. You can argue that they are not from other planets, I suppose, but IF they are "ET" then it doesn't make sense to call them demonic. Should other planetary folks call us demons should we happen to visit them, perhaps through some future ability to travel/re-manifest through weird portals? I hope not! You kind of lost me on this... (My own experiences have led me to put these kinds of things in different baskets, you see...)

If we agree aliens come from other planets where do demons come from?.....


I look forward to your review on the book, good or bad please post here!

- (I just made up that term, lol!) what I mean is it seems phenomena can manifest physically though some unique and mysterious conditions that exist there - the circumstances of that are neutral - now WHO chooses to manifest, well, that is literally an "open door..."

I think your onto something. The more I research the Ranch, the more scientific and esoteric books I read on the matter, the less confident I feel in classifying whatever emerges from those portals. I admit I honestly don t know or have "the" answer. I'm looking for it. I do know the creatures are described as being over 7-8 feet tall, muscular, and covered in black hair. They have large yellow piercing eyes similar to a reptile. They are extremely agile. They enter the ranch via portals (which may just be the door opening to an invisible ship?) and also from small triangular ships (as well as the refrigerator or RV looking style ships). There is a ancient indian man that sometimes accompanies them that I do NOT want to discuss on this forum (its discussed ad nausea in the book). What these creatures are and where they herld from is unknown. I have never seen one of these humanoid type creates myself, but I suspect they are behind all of this. There are also humans clone like entities that seem to be accompanying them.

a reply to: hiii_98

I'm suggesting that this may be a multi-usage area. I don't subscribe to people from other planets being demons.

If you are dealing with non-physical entities that are able to physically manifest in this area, that is another matter and they fit into another basket. Do you really know where they come from? We could call it non-corporal energies, formally corporeal entities (i.e. skinwalker wolf possibly). We could call them Ultra Dimensional, Intra-Dimensional, Trans-dimensional, etc. but I'm not really sure what that specifically means other than "non-corporeal possibly from a higher dimension, parallel universe, or other unknown place."

I'm not being flippant, but I felt like your answer was? I hope my questions or thoughts were not offensive. I'm sincere in my questions.
ETA - OOPS = scratch that last comment!! LOL! You hadn't posted your complete answer before I responded! Sorry!!
- AB

I remember hearing a radio broadcast somewhere on the internet where two guys camped out next to skin walker ranch and they started to hear the voices and I think shadows of something walking around just outside the light of the campfire.

They said they didn't remember everything next but that one guy remembers some weird entity that was not anthropoid in shape, said it was like a black shadowy worm or something ( i don't remember the details of how he described it but something like that) and it grabbed him or attacked him, said it felt like a alien abduction and that it was like some sort of experiment on them.

I really cant remember the show I heard it on or if I even got the details right, but I wanted to know if you've heard of similar stories where the entities are literally showing themselves to people or actually abducted the people to do whatever they do and then return them?

a reply to: AboveBoardyes we are also dealing with non physical entities that manifest as per your descriptor . what are they?... trust me its all really much too confusing to place phenomena this nice and neatly into the "ITS ALIENS" box.... or I would have long ago.

Skinwalker Ranch's answers are neither black nor white, its that shades of grey area. I guess that's why keeps me intrigued, I have so many theories, I feel each year I confidently go with a new one only to re-evaluate my entire thesis the following year.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
I remember hearing a radio broadcast somewhere on the internet where two guys camped out next to skin walker ranch and they started to hear the voices and I think shadows of something walking around just outside the light of the campfire.

They said they didn't remember everything next but that one guy remembers some weird entity that was not anthropoid in shape, said it was like a black shadowy worm or something ( i don't remember the details of how he described it but something like that) and it grabbed him or attacked him, said it felt like a alien abduction and that it was like some sort of experiment on them.

I really cant remember the show I heard it on or if I even got the details right, but I wanted to know if you've heard of similar stories where the entities are literally showing themselves to people or actually abducted the people to do whatever they do and then return them?

that exact story is in my new book, not only that, but man who experienced that provided answers to my questions about that event. Unbelievable, its a must read!

Ooops

Need to head to bed. have a good night everyone. I'll try to answer more tomorrow.

If you can wrangle up an "alien" and bring it to me, that would be a good start but it would just open Pandora's box because the "alien" would have to prove its alien-ness.

you do realize how contradictory you sound with that statement? You have a inflexible position. I don't think this discussion here will have any merit to you.

a reply to: hiii_98

Hey Hiii - I had responded before I saw the second part of your post back to me. I'm sorry for the confusion!



I didn't think you were trying to say it was all Extra-Terrestrial persons (to be clear, people from other planets). It is a weird place - there was a weird place like that in Colorado - another ranch - posted on this forum somewhere. It had bigfoots and human-type futuristic UFO people, scary stuff and a big mess of ???????!!!!!!!

Thanks for responding - I really appreciate it, and I'll get back re: the book as soon as I can!

- AB

there was a weird place like that in Colorado - another ranch - posted on this forum somewhere. It had bigfoots and human-type futuristic UFO people, scary stuff and a big mess of ???????!!!!!!!

yes that story is almost 100% identical with what is occurring at Skinwalker. I even posted the location of that other ranch on my website. Even the story is linked to in my files section. I am fascinated by that old ARPO case! Gnite