Sandy Hook Forensic Evidence

The dude is nuts. Autism is dissociative behavior, usually a lack of emotions or human empathy regards others. He was actually "training" for this, conditioning his mind to further excise any remaining feelings.

People want to read more into the mistakes made by investigators after the fact, they should have had to walk through that classroom and examine the victims themselves. Completely horrific, outside the realm of experience.

Because Lanza is outside the realm of humanity, in fact inhumane.

a reply to: intrptr

lol, the old "appeal to horror" trick...

dude, this isn't simple nitpicking of mistakes.....this is major flaws in the version of events that were sold to the public..

a reply to: Daedalus

Rght it didn appn?

a reply to: intrptr

what?

a reply to: Daedalus

.this is major flaws in the version of events that were sold to the public..

Meaning what? It didn't happen?, is what I meant.

a reply to: intrptr

never said it didn't happen...i'm saying i'm sure it didn't happen the way they said it did....which was kind of the entire point of this thread..

a reply to: Daedalus

i'm saying i'm sure it didn't happen the way they said it did….which was kind of the entire point of this thread..

Nothing ever does. Again, your point?

a reply to: intrptr

lol..i made my point. what was yours again?

a reply to: Daedalus

Your point was "I'm playing a trick"…?

I just said dude was nuts.

a reply to: intrptr

"trick" was, in hindsight, the incorrect word to use...

"fallacy" was the correct word....i should have used that, didn't catch it in time to edit.

your post pretty much says "i completely buy the official story, and now i'm just gonna try to minimize people's criticisms of the official story"

you "just say" "the dude was nuts", without knowing anything about "the dude" to begin with....none of us really knows anything about him..

a reply to: Daedalus

you "just say" "the dude was nuts", without knowing anything about "the dude" to begin with….none of us really knows anything about him..

Okay, since you put it that way, I agree. And thanks for the reminder about the Official story. Did I forget myself?

If he exhibited those traits described in the OP, then he's nuts.

Whomever murders a classroom of children is definitely nuts.

I do not believe the official story regarding Sandy Hook. As time goes on more and more information is learned, and it all works against the official story. Again, we were deceived.

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originally posted by: notquitesure
a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE


Thanks for those details. We have 3 people inside tasked with making pronouncements. How many others were inside attempting to save lives? The assumption would be that there are mass casualties and the place would be crawling with paramedics, right?

I noted in the documents you supplied that one paramedic was interviewed by 4 police officers with 2 lawyers present. Maybe this is S.O.P., but it stuck out to me. Are there similar documents detailing interviews done with the presumably dozens of others who were in that school in an effort to save lives?

Again, you wouldn't presume that everyone was dead and only send in a few people to check for vitals, would you? Wouldn't you assume that there were lives to save and send in as many qualified people as possible to accomplish this task? And as quickly as possible, as time is of the essence in a shooting incident.

I had assumed the same, previously, I found myself wondering why were there not many medical personnel on scene? After reading these official statements/transcripts from the 3 responding paramedics it finally DOES make sense. They could not let anyone (Well anyone more than absolutely necessary) into or even near the school at this point because they thought there was still an active shooter! Maybe there was, maybe there was not. That part is hard to distinguish. I think it is clear they believed there was, at that time.

That part is less of a mystery to me now... but why oh why have they not just come out in the news media to SAY this? I still have so many questions about so many other aspects of the whole scenario. It seems simple questions like this could have been talked about with the public.

originally posted by: 3mperorConstantinE

“Only the hand that erases can write the true thing”

―Eckhart von Hochheim (c.1260—1328)

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Wow this is just incredible and scary Constantine... who are you? lol

originally posted by: NickDC202

originally posted by: Daedalus
a reply to: 3mperorConstantinE

is it just me, or does he look significantly LESS crazy in this picture, than in like, EVERY other picture we've seen?

Do you think he looks crazy when he's dancing?

For those wondering that was posted publicly on Facebook by high school student Jimmy Oates on June 2, 2012.

He looks... autistic.

I know this is a little off topic so if it needs to be removed please remove my post not thread etc. I have a mutual friend in common with this Facebook person. Strangely enough she is from Cuba, still lives in Cuba... I am Canadian so I have vacationed in Cuba several times. How would this American teenager know her? Her occupation, as far as I know, is a daycare manager at a hotel there. I just wonder regarding conspiracy -CIA and or related "alleged" conspiracies and Cuba. Strange? Feels so to me!

Well it is so extremely unfortunate that this thread died a sad death because it was so incredibly refreshing and informative Constantine, wherever and whoever you are, bravo.

I have a question related to the official report I read somewhere earlier. I do not have the exact info on the location but I will be going back to read through the entire report/reports all collected by the people here. The substitute teacher Rousseau, who was reported to be a deceased victim teacher I believe in room 8 had a listed possession of a SHES photo identification card. Now she was there that day also with a lesson plan on her desk for Dec 14 2012. Has anyone discovered any info about her, or how long she had been at the school? If she was subbing for a teacher on a lengthy leave it would make sense for her to have had a photo ID card. If she was just there for the day it doesn't seem to make sense to me, I suppose she could have been a "regular" sub for the school. In any case I am wondering if anyone has uncovered any info pertaining to that. I also read -back in this thread somewhere- that 8 teachers were absent that day...adding up to 1/3 for the size of teaching staff?! A little strange.

Another question I have for anyone who might know. I'm Canadian, so not sure of what the average school set up is like in the US but I have never seen a classroom with carpeted floors here. Is that common in the US? Seems it would make regular clean up very difficult. Also I see no mention in the report, directly, of carpet being removed. I do know there was a question of a large amount of bio hazard waste being taken to Arizona and/or Oklahoma (posted somewhere in this great thread) might some part of that have been carpet? If so I just wonder why it was never listed in the report, unless I missed it -entirely possible considering the magnitude of all this info! I'm going to dive back into it now and I'm sure I will be back with more questions!

Was the op banned and then reinstated but just decided not to come back?? So unfortunate! I would love to hear what one should be looking for at that Boston Area library...anyone figure out the riddle yet?

a reply to: tiredoflooking

Yes, it's fairly common for classrooms to be carpeted, though, i've found it's sometimes a matter of how affluent a community you live in. I've gone to schools in both affluent, and somewhat poor school districts, i also was dispatched to schools quite frequently when i worked for the cable company, and i noticed that in the richer communities, you tend to see more carpeted classrooms.

I mean, yeah, there are definitely questions of practicality to be addressed, like "what if a student pukes on the carpet" but then, that's what carpet cleaning machines are for...

Anyway, I can't speak to the practices of the entire nation, but school districts here in the states do actually hire on a small pool of substitute teachers. They're part of the school's staff, and some of them are even paid to sit in the school, on standby, in the event that they're needed in a pinch. Not saying that this was the case in CT, because i haven't the faintest idea, i'm just saying i've seen it elsewhere, so it's a possibility.

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a reply to: Daedalus

Thanks for the answer. I have seen many comments around the internet about the clean up of the school and why the pictures looked so neat so quickly. The reports I have read earlier in this thread state there is carpet in the classrooms and the pictures made public, obviously, are without carpet. I just wondered if there ever really was carpet and knowing some schools do have it in the US means it's possible. Gross lol but possible.

I just watched the BBC documentary about Sandy Hook tonight because I happened to see it listed on a certain shooter (who I will not name's)torrent account. I found it moving, the parent of a child who was killed seemed genuine, the family of Lauren Russeau seemed genuine I'm not sure how to spell her last name because it is listed differently in many different places, in the documentary from BBC it shows a cross with it spelled the way I have it here -done by a child so MAYBE they misspelled it? Because it is listed with 2 other spellings in the police report and some places in the media. Even the family who allowed their surviving child from Ms. Soto's class t be interview SEEMED genuine. They made reference to conspiracy theorists and their great disdain for them.

I tried to find and watch the video on youtube and it was there. There are some problems with the family who has the surviving child. I cannot remember their names but the mother speaks about her younger twins who are in the movie. She makes reference to the fact that the morning of Dec 14 2012 she was at home with her kids -the twins are younger so wouldn't have been in school on this date- she says her older son went off to school that morning and "something" made her remember he had forgotten his library book, so off she went to the school to deliver it. OK where were the twins? Wouldn't she have brought them with her? Maybe she had a babysitter or left them with a neighbor, but she is a stay at home mom...and remembered the book and "ran" to drop it off, why doesn't she mention leaving the twins with someone? It just struck me as odd. Later she makes reference to the twins being at home while she arrives at the school and it seems so quiet and she hears gunshots and hides. She makes a horrible on camera admission of being in the situation of wanting to run into the school to save her son but fearing for her own safety and thinking of her twins at home and not wanting to die. A horrible situation for any mother to have to face, I cannot even imagine. She calls her husband who is a fireman and presumably at work...all of this at 9:35am while the shots were just starting in the school. That part about the twins had me confused, it just seemed strange but there could be explanations for it she just left out.

The second issue with the mother of the twins was later in the movie when she said one of them came to her and said "it's a good thing you aren't dead mommy, right?" and she said he then said "now that I am in grade 1 at Sandy Hook School is it my turn to die?" She also, I believe, mentioned the twins talking about their school...Sandy Hook school. Now I am sure that cannot be right because we know the school was shut down following this incident, fenced off and then torn down. I know I read somewhere there was another school that was empty they were using for the kids. this documentary took place 1 year after the incident so 2013, if another school has been built I'm pretty sure it was not then. Maybe the kids...and the mom got mixed up about the name of the school they were now attending? Seems weird. anyway here is a link for anyone interested in watching for yourselves.

www.youtube.com...

I watched the Frontline PBS special tonight as well, it is in two parts "Raising Adam Lanza" and "Newtown Divided". I tried to find it on youtube and only could find a copy with no sound but in my search I came across a video where someone has captured a still from the documentary with the Lanza's street sign on it misspelled. It reads Yoganda when it should be Yoganada. So may weird things around this incident there are just too many to count. While watching the documentary on PBS's site it is now FIXED but there is like a jump before and after the sign is shown in the video...I kid you not.

Here is the link to the video showing the youtuber who made the screen shot:

www.youtube.com...

Here is the link to PBS Frontline's special for anyone interested:

video.pbs.org...

So many weird inconsistencies in this story. I think we should all still be thinking of it, it shouldn't be forgotten.