ATS Poll: How concerned are you about "Global Warming"?

It's not a concern yet because the UFOs have temporarily made the Earth cooler to give humanity a chance(you don't
think we've just suddenly entered another Ice Age, do you?) However, if you still refused to listen, then they CAN let
the Earth get progressively hotter, like the past few years(and you end up paying so much on electricity to try to cool
yourself that you've effectively have paid more than trying to go solar and gradually reduce global temperature, and I don't know about other people, but I've lost a couple of laptops due to overheating, trying to render HD videos in the summer.) Basically, you can either pay now, or you and your descendants will pay later.

With that said, we have enough fossil fuels to start the transition, but we have to start now. If you can, buy a smaller
house, you can pretty much pay for everything, even hybrids, if you didn't have to pay so much for
the house(and you actually save more money in the long run by going solar). In addition, use public transportation if you can. The Earth CAN heal herself gradually, but you have to give her some time. Make our fossil fuels last 200 years instead of 50, and that should be sufficient(in reality, it would take 10,000 of years, to reverse the damage that mankind has done, but the UFOs can speed things up, but you have to show that you're at least trying to make an effort. If you wonder why they don't just show and fix everything outright, well, that would be like giving your kids everything, without forcing them to get a job or learn any responsibilities).

Prediction on the outcome of this poll. The over 50% that think this isn't a problem will be highly American. This IS an issue outside of the US.

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
LOL!

This poll is just so... us-american.

Because I knew the result of this poll before, and yes, it saddens me that you won't even take into account that it might make sense to be prepared.

Better prepared than sorry, right?

So, yes, I am not as sure as the majority on this board that those extreme weathers we encountered in the past years are just "glitches" in mother natures stomach. My vote goes to "watch out! There might be something going on!".

Can't prepare. It's just not possible. The Changeunists can't make up their mind whether I need to stock up on sunscreen or buy a new winter coat.

Just can't prepare for it like that! What to do, what to do! Oh woe is me!

See, it's worrisome when they're claiming that it's gonna freeze over, because I don't much care for the cold, and ice ages are reported to suck. On the other hand, I get positively giddy when they say it's going to heat up. More CO2 and warmer temperatures are good for plants, and I like plants. We can eat them, you know? As an added bonus, they talk about ice caps melting and whatnot - more land to plant green stuff on! Of curse, the coasts are supposed to go under, and 50% of the world's population lives on or near them, so it might suck to be them if they can't walk away or something, and set up on the new coastline, but hey, that would solve that overpopulation problem, right?

SO - it's all good... if hell doesn't freeze over, that is. I'm going to stock up on sunscreen and hope for the best - that I'll need it!

originally posted by: Baddogma
a reply to: Gazrok

If the scientists are wrong ... what's the downside to shifting our civilization to non combustion based energy production? If they're right, what's the downside to ignoring them?

What's wrong is that there is too much money involved. The scientists have to get paid (and get paid well) so naturally they want to put enough doubt into the topic to keep it interesting. Politicians want to be seen as good stewards so they'll jump on the band wagon and raise taxes for the "good of the planet". I will believe scientists and leaders only when two things happen.

1) There has to be indisputable evidence presented by a scientific community that is not politically or financially motivated. Finding that is probably impossible. The point is, I need convincing that all that is reported isn't self serving. There are too many counter-claims to evidence of man-made climate change.

2) Whatever tax is collected by government labeled for environmental concern has to be put into a fund that legislators cannot touch but will be used only for the purpose of research for alternative fuel, manufacturing processes, etc. The money collected from me in taxes has to stay in the country. Anyone that receives funding from the money raised has a set period of time to show tangible results in order to get more funding. They can have exclusive patents for whatever they discover/invent for a limited period of time (years) after which time it becomes public domain.

If the powers that be can achieve that, then I'll be convinced I'm not being scammed. I wonder what that cow fart collector device is going to look like?

originally posted by: intrepid
Prediction on the outcome of this poll. The over 50% that think this isn't a problem will be highly American. This IS an issue outside of the US.

Well, I'm in Germany right now so I guess my vote could upset the comparison. Thinking American and clicking from a German IP address! Oh my!

The way I perceive the situation is that regardless if you believe it or not, it is happening.

We need to focus our efforts now not on stopping it because the reality of the situation is that isn't going to happen. We have to turn our gigantic mammalian brains to the task of mitigating the effects via policy change and Geo-engineering. We need to decide what areas we should and shouldn't protect against rising sea levels.

I have an awful feeling for the SW states of the US. The water supply is already failing, the population is increasing, the weather is becoming more and more erratic. Californians need to wake up and smell the coffee, desalination plants are needed for water, Massive solar arrays are needed for energy.

We need to ween ourselves off of hydrocarbon fuel regardless of if you believe in CC or not. It's going to run out and is running out, why are tar sands being extracted in Canada? Because the supply of sweet crude is running out making big oil desperate for new supply sources.

I have no idea why people choose to ignore the facts and believe some ridiculous unsubstantiated claims posted on Zerohenge or infowars.

Wake up and smell the coffee, if you don't you will look a fool when your house in engulfed by the sea or your water supply no longer works.

But yet then still, you will deny as it will cause loss of face.

a reply to: intrepid

I fear for America, once a nation of acute scientific knowledge and a world leader on all issues.

Now, rising inequality, plutocratic rulers, contradictory laws, brutalized police, uninspiring leaders, people denying FACTS about rising world temperature.

It truly is the demise of an empire, happens to all great empires.

America will rise again, however the worst is yet to come first. The demise is strikingly different from that of the British empire, we realized the trajectory of history and saw the game was up for us being no.1. America needs the same, China will overtake the US in GDP (PPP measure) this year, it will have double the economic clout and an equal military force within 20 years.

The best thing for Americans to do is manage the decline, prepare for the future and focus on what you are good at, you will always be prosperous and at peace if you do this!!

You don't want to go the way of the Spanish empire, debt ridden, war stricken and morally bankrupt. However i fear this is the most likely outcome.

The planet is doomed. There are too many people on it for the planet and the human race to survive. I'm not 'concerned' about Global Warming because we'll kill ourselves off before any possible 'man made global warming' stuff kicks in. (if there even is any ... )

Why do the climate change crowd always get so crazy if you laugh at their made-up doom-for-profit-scheme?
Words like "ignorant" and blah blah blah. Didn't a load of the scientists backing Al Gore get caught altering data and outright making stuff up??? Don't get me wrong though, I'm all for closely monitoring big business' and making sure they keep the environment as clean as possible.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

Loving these polls!

I voted not too worried. Because anything above that would have been an outright lie.

Climate change is natural and there is nothing man can do to stop it.

Yes CO2 levels are rising but not because of man but because of Climate change.

The last ice age was not caused by CO2 levels dropping but by a land bridge between South America and North America that changed the ocean currents.

CO2 levels dropped during the ice age.

They are still rising since the end of then last ice age.

The Climate change people must get there agenda through before the people find out its a a hoax.
you will see a incress in total BS from them in the next few years.

a reply to: Fylgje

How much more money is made from continuing oil/gas extraction?

a reply to: intrepid

That everyman for himself attitude we love from some USAers or as I call it "Screw you Jack Iam doing fine".
Can't see the wood through the trees some folk.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

I'm concerned about our evident inability as a global civilization to adapt consciously and with unity of purpose.

a reply to: boymonkey74

Not all Americans have that attitude it may be hard to believe, but there are a whole lot of Americans that have never even been out of their own state even more that have never seen more than the states bordering theirs the amount of Americans that have seen other countries is a minority to them their backyard is the whole world so when it snows they cant possibly imagine record heat waves in the other hemisphere.

When you speak to them about global implications they simply do not have the ability to fathom the meaning of those words. When there is talk about how billions of people will be displaced because of warming try to remember in the US there is an abundance of resources and room single people will get one or two bedroom apartments for themselves or an efficiency if they are hurting compare that with other parts of the globe where that same efficiency would house a family of 6 or 8. Most of these issues will not concern those who only know life in the US at least until it effects them.

originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: ketsuko

I thought it was farting that was causing it - now its not farting anymore, its breathing.

It was global warming, then its climate change, now earth's atmospheric feelings.

How am I ever going to keep all this straight

Oh, that's right...

This whole "global warming" scam seems to work very similar to how the missing Malaysian flight panned out. They come out with theory after theory, yet when ever their theory gets disproven, they just more onto an even more ridiculous theory.

It is ALL a scam, and they will just keep coming out with idiotic theories [too much farting was a serious theory put forward]. If farting was a serious problem to global warming, then why are protein shakes allowed to be sold considering what they do to the back end of a person using them, and the smell that they produce ?

And the next time the planet enters another ice age, it will then be a case of "we have to do something about this global cooling". And if we enter another ice age, which we will, then does that mean people stopped farting ?

Please forward the results of this poll to Charles Koch so he can smile about how well he's put his money to use.

Not worried at all. 47.27%

Not at all? So 47.27% of respondents so far either completely disagree with 97% of climate scientists or just don't give a f#. That's insane. Even if it were the opinion of merely 50% or hell, only 20% of climate scientists, wouldn't that merit some level of concern?

If we hit 51% does the site motto change to "embrace ignorance?"

a reply to: theantediluvian

It is pretty crazy when you consider many of those same people put so much effort or faith in 6 papers written back in the 1970s about an impending ice age.

It is just plain crazy.

Not really concerned.
The Earth goes through many cycles and changes without man being an influence.
Man is a mere flea on this planet.
Just move and adapt accordingly as have our ancestors have done for millennia.

Yeah, just that simple.
Just move along, nothing to see here.

a reply to: wayside

Would just like to point out that when our ancestors just moved along the entire human population numbered in the thousands. Now www.worldometers.info... It may not be so easy.