Very unusual object photographed in Arizona sky

originally posted by: JDJ333

originally posted by: htapath

originally posted by: JDJ333
It's a fake. You can zoom in to the object with any basic CG program (MS Paint) and see the border of the clouds around the object are lighter in color than the surrounding clouds. Copied/paste.

The image has NOT been altered in any way. These are the same old tactics that have been used to discredit and derail UFO threads since the inception of the internet. The image is 100% genuine. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Sorry, You're right. I have NO idea what I was thinking, thank you.

What I meant to say is, it appears to have been artificially cropped. When the object is viewed at 400% zoom the contrast of the object, its boarder and the cloud that the object is "pasted" to does not match the surrounding cloud. It appears as if someone needed to brush up on their blending technique. It very well could be an effect of the camera phone.

I am not trying to discredit you on the picture because I have an underlying plan to derail UFO threads. I have seen my share of UFOs, and some so close that had you seen with your own eyes, would have you crying mommy.

Peace

I had a close encounter of the 3rd kind at age 13. Then at age 20, my best and I had a close encounter of the 2nd kind. On both occasions three hours went missing. I've also summoned them on several occasions for friends and acquaintances.

I don't photoshop images and pass them as genuine. My experiences have made the entire topic very serious and personal to me. And my mommy certainly wouldn't understand any of this and we don't discuss these things.

originally posted by: alienreality
a reply to: rhynouk

Not directing this at you at all,, (you just looked like a good shoulder to rant on

but ufo discussions are not providing progress in life for anyone except the military with all the hostility and ridicule about misidentifications.

I'm usually pro UFO, but that doesn't mean I just say it and run off, and I went all the way from saying it looks like a military/alien hybrid contraption, to actually Identifying this bird's species, which is the Arizona black vulture. But I saw no reason to be mean spirited towards the OP..
No one else here did much except ridicule and badger the op, plus just lay there in their homes all sauced and belligerent and about to light their bed on fire from carelessness.

It is ridiculous to piss away these opportunities to get the brain moving, and use them instead to piss on posters.. Wouldn't you agree?
Who cares if someone misidentifies things? That is how the best minds in the world learn things, trial and error describes humanity perfectly anyway. Being ready to judge and ridicule is exactly what the Air Force wanted the public to do way back before blue-book, which they did specifically because Barry Goldwater was all up in their arse about ufo's (he was one reason) and they couldn't get congress off of their backs because of that publicity, and just look now still at all the posters comments in most every UFO thread to see how successful their (military) multi million dollar a year budget to get us all doing that job for them has been.

I'm going to keep reminding people of this because it should be said, even if it's off topic.. (I'll do a thread on this if post is out of bounds) There have been many done on the same issue, but repetition is not a bad thing)

I haven't finished catching up on this thread for the evening, yet, but I just want to throw my two cents in and agree on this. I think you should create a thread for this, Alienreality, if you haven't done so already.

originally posted by: PheonixReborn
a reply to: htapath
That's the thing about birds; we're so used to seeing them that we don't notice them when our concentration is on something else.

I took this pic a while back and was so intent on getting the clouds and contrast right I didn't notice the whole flock of birds which were obviously in plain sight at the time.

This is a very beautiful sunset picture as well as illustrating your point. Thank you for sharing it, PhoenixReborn!

originally posted by: PheonixReborn
htapath

I've tried to be light-hearted in this thread.

Let me be serious.

You were concentrating on getting the photo of the clouds. You weren't looking at anything else. You didn't notice the bird flying through the shot. You're friends were not there as expert witnesses to say they did not see anything in shot as they were probably not even looking in the direction you were when you took the shot.

I've provided a shot of my own which I took without noticing an entire flock of birds, one of which looks like a black triangle UFO. It isn't. It's a bird.

Can you not open yourself up to the possibility that what you shot was a bird and not an extraterrestrial space craft?

I realise you have invested yourself quite a lot so far in this thread but it may be time for you to let go and admit the obvious.

Best Wishes.

I'm very comfortable with myself and am not ashamed of what I see in the mirror. Your conclusions, or anyone else's, don't affect me. Nothing ventured, nothing lost. Just another day in paradise and tomorrow I will wake up with appreciation in my heart.

My final thought for the night is a quote from Alienreality:

It is ridiculous to piss away these opportunities to get the brain moving, and use them instead to piss on posters.. Wouldn't you agree?

I do, indeed, agree.

I live in Arizona too. My mind is fifty/fifty on bird versus unknown. Which leaves me, ultimately, at still unknown. I have seen some massive ravens in the Prescott area, and some dinky sized vultures in the Southwest Goodyear area. Never seem to see them in flight in the sky - I usually see them sitting on fenceposts, trees, power lines, or, in the case of the huge ravens, dumpsters. But... they are birds with functional wings, hence, I assume they fly.

I'm still not convinced the image is of a bird, even though that was my first thought when I saw it. I think the cloud formations are very interesting, the white thing on the ground is very interesting in and of itself, and the unknown object which may or may not be a bird in flight is interesting.

My takeaway from this thread is still... Darned interesting picture!

originally posted by: htapath
a reply to: Antoniastar

Cha-ching! That's what I'm talking about Antoniastar! So nice of you to take the time to help us peer through the mask of this object(s). And no, I hadn't noticed the object on the ground at all! Kudos for that as well. There are no houses within two miles of that junction, so it's not a plant covering. Will have to meditate on that one heh.

As for the eye in the sky, it looks like the bird hypothesis has taken a tailspin. It's too bad that some members tend to make snap judgements on things that don't conform to the accepted normalcy bias. I say join the party and look around with a new set of eyes.

Anyway, this entire area is a sacred place where all kinds of energies are hanging around. Some things just have to be experienced first hand to gain a complete understanding. Grand Canyon is a good example, and it's not far from the photographed location. I could go on for pages along these lines. Suffice to say anyone who is on an inward path should visit this area for a few weeks. It's where serenity lives and fear dies.

I'm still no closer to putting a specific label on the object, I must profess. But I'm moderately confident that it's some type of non-local intelligent energy. Whether or not the anomalous object on the ground is directly related is beyond me.

Those little dots that outline the left side of the object are also very curious.

Howdy htapath,

Thank you, it's been a great pleasure for me to participate in your thread.

The white object could be nothing, it could be trash but on the other hand it could be related to image in the sky. It just sends red flags up in me. I don't think there's a word yet for my "gift"...I'm somewhere between an intuitive empath and clairvoyant precog. Something like that anyway. I'm also a telepath although I haven't trained it so it happens randomly. I can hear what people are thinking and many times can finish people's sentences to the letter. I could go on but this isn't the place or the time for it. My point is that when I saw your photo I immediately, if not sooner, knew that it wasn't a bird.

Very interesting about that area being a "sacred place where all kinds of energies are hanging around"... I didn't know that. Isn't the Grand Canyon the result of a meteor strike? if so, that might explain why there's high-strangeness in the area. I'd love to visit the area sometime.

"Non-local intelligent energy"... yes it appears so and also not seen in the visible electromagnetic spectrum. Assuming that an unintelligent object is not going to consider distance the same as an intelligent object does, the distance relative to the observer, in this case, you, calculates the sky anomaly to be about 20 miles from your location (at the time the image was taken), if I recall correctly. If the anomaly or object of interest is/was intelligent then, to that intelligence, your location might have been 20 inches. Size works the same way depending on perspective. From the odd shape in the sky, you could have appeared as a giant. Jus'sayin'.

I hadn't noticed the dots before you mentioned them. I have no idea what that's about.

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Toni

this just went into a full blown tin foil hat zone with OP's summoning post.

Never mind *Sigh*...

All talk of non localised electromagnetic anomalies aside, if we list in the order from most probable explanation to least probable, perhaps this would be a useful exercise.

Bird, plastic bag, kite, random floating detritus, drone, alien bird, alien being, alien spacecraft, interdimensional wormhole with interdimensional being emerging.


Which end of this list is the most probable explanation, and which end the least?

I agree with some of the posters of it being a turkey vulture,I think that the photographer took the picture of the bird in mid flap.

I will try and snap some pics of some turkey vultures with my mobile this weekend and try to duplicate the object

Its a Blurd.

Easily explained why you didnt see it.

1. You are an Earth human, you've seen birds, bugs, flys, planes buzzing around in the sky, and your head all your life. You are use to them, they are second nature to you, they are natural Earth creatures. So when you take a photo, and it has a blurd (blurred bird) in it, you can not immediately identify that strange shape, therefore it suddenly becomes a UFO, aliens, hey are coming to take you away (again apparently .

2. You are going to take a picture with your phone, you are concentrating on the small led screen at the back, trying to hold it steady, you press the button, at that very moment, a bird flys across the path of the screen. It only takes the bird a few seconds to pass the field of view. It is too small and fast to see on the screen, so you didnt see it. Your friends dont see it either, because of part 1 above. A flying bird doesnt register in your brain field or perception, because you see them all the time and your brain makes allowances for that..........now if the bird changed direction and started to fly toward you in an aggressive manner, Then your brain would react in the fight or flight red alert alarm, and you would see it.

It is a bird.

Something splattered on your lens, bro.

a reply to: gort51

WTF is a Blurd????

originally posted by: htapath
a reply to: Antoniastar

The close-ups are revealing, in that the object on the ground seems much more connected to the one in the sky. Did the camera catch something in transition, or is a transition occurring because the object sensed it was being digitally imaged? Questions, questions.

I will be more alert to the presence of these kinds of clouds from this point forward. When I took the picture, I felt the clouds were somehow looking back at me. I got goosebumps when I finally saw the object and it was dead center at the top of the photo.

Your participation in this thread is mucho apprecianado Toni!!!

Yep I love getting up close to get a better look at stuff... well ya know it depends on what it is. ha ha

After looking back at my first impression I was thinkin' wouldn't it be wild if that white thing is someone's skin? What if someone was dropped off and after landing, shed their skin like a snake? There's a path not far from the road. Do you know where that path leads to? Or maybe you could show me exactly where that location is on a map and I can look at it. How sacred is it? Any military bases, underground tunnels, caves, etc?

I did notice that the shape of the sky-thing is very similar to the clouds in the vicinity and it's most likely that it's not random but another ploy to blend in for the lazy eye and the timid brain. If the sky-thing is trying to look like a bird then it will also try to look like the clouds. The trained eye and alert brain know better especially when space and time is frozen inside a digital time frame. Dig it?

Good thing you heeded your hunch and stopped to capture the clouds! Soooo you had the feeling of being watched eh? I know the feeling all too well. Goosebumps when not cold is probably not a good sign. Did the air feel static? Did you feel afraid or sense doom? Were you anxious to get going?

You might want to write down your experience, go over it again. It's best not to analyse or try to interpret or judge...just let it flow out. When you're finished you might get some answers to your questions. If nothing else it feels good.

More edits. #4 came from the left-hand lower side in a place where there appears to be an eye, though I'm not saying that there is an eye. These edits are more exaggerated then the first ones that I did.

#1

#2

#3

#4


Notice the dots? There they are again. What's that all about I wonder. FYI I didn't put those there, all I did was hone in and set highlight and add a bit of contrast. I didn't get out my paint brushes and rags or anything.

De nada Amigos!

a reply to: spirited75

....Read my post again.

Blurred Bird = Blurd.

This term has been used many times on ATS, to describe this pictures.

You must be new here.

a reply to: gwynnhwyfar

You're welcome! It's my pleasure.

I love making close-ups of images.