Mental Illness Conspiracy: ADHD, Manic Depression, Schizophrenia, and etc.

The medical community and the FDA are responsible for human rights abuses by there disinformation tactics and laziness that causes a discrepancy between how you should be treated and how we are treated. Not to highlight doctor's making profit or incentives for the marketing of pharmaceutical medicines, but the awareness that all of psychiatry is flawed, so flawed to the manner that over half of the world is mentally ill and does not know it (More so in the United States). The DSM-IV is inadequate at determining mental health issues and the DSM-V creates a mockery of every human beings on Earth.

It is my opinion that all "mental illnesses", since I consider them to be physical illnesses bases on every phenomena being capable of explanation through science, are traceable to manic depression and the Schizophrenic gene (a creator of genius and self-destruction). I am not putting down other illnesses such as Asperger's Syndrome because I don't have to deal with it. I am talking in a more narrow term now.

When will psychiatry get it's you know what together and start treating patients like they ought to be treated which is a trial and error approach and multiple medication therapy?

When will it be our constitutional right to take the medicines in which we choose since we know best how we feel?

If there is not a solution for everyone when it comes to medicinal treatment, there are other options I will not discuss because you probably will not believe me (an actual witness).

Damn this dark age. And damn the attack against our Constitution.

Trolls who think psychological medications are useless, beware of embarrassment because I am quite good at debating.

Why can't a vet get an FMRI from the VA ? How intelligent is it to give SSRIs to people IN combat? Who in the hell EVER said it was OK for ANY physician to prescribe them?


That should be be a good start.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Why can't a vet get an FMRI from the VA ? How intelligent is it to give SSRIs to people IN combat? Who in the hell EVER said it was OK for ANY physician to prescribe them?


That should be be a good start.

Thanks for the information on a fMRI because my presence here is focused on the topic of mind control (it is possible to take an fMRI from space according to a pdf I read after advanced searched.

The problem is that you never have taken a SSRI (maybe) and are prone to abandon it as a taboo ordeal. SSRI's helps save lives along with anti-psychotics.

Regarding veterans, we are getting raped up the you know what and everywhere I look I see no justice. There is no recourse for certain crimes.

the method of diagnosis is flawed, the standard operating procedure is based on the same flawed theory.

the theory for dealing with mental illness was developed by someone who suffered from mental illness.

Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt..

I work in mental health and have often observed how the emphasis on anti-psychotics and anti-depressants is to control/contain behaviours rather than be solutions to a person's condition. They're not always bad though, sometimes they improve a person's well-being to the point where they engage in a therapy that has more potential to help. GP's have got to be more responsible about the issue though.

a reply to: Teetotaler

I do not fully get your question, you would like prescription pills to become available to the public???

If that is what you wanted, I can not agree with you.

Most prescription drugs are too dangerous to just mess around with. The main difference between body and mind chemistry lies in mind chemistry being far more sensitive to changes. When otherwise healthy mind takes the wrong pill, when sad, because he "believes" it will make him feel better, this could lead to severe consequences, which could do irreversible damage to the brain. Often these are also highly addictive, which again could lead to taking the wrong doses, believing it will make you feel "better", while actually that is just an illusion and you damage yourself.

Previous room mate of mine did that, we were quite close back then. Young, hard-working man got into strong depression. I do not know which medicine he was prescribed, although he was stupid enough to believe taking higher doses would make him feel better (even though, when I told him not to!) , so he could work harder, as he would feel better. Now, he is not even able to work at all anymore and is on invalid status... Stupidity.

a reply to: Teetotaler

I think the rise in mental illness is due in part that our world today is not conducive with being mentally stable. Over stimuli, constant media saturation, materialism, etc. are just a few of the things that are counter to how the human mind should be working. To me, most everyday mental illnesses stem from these things.

I was absolutely microcsmicallyinsane when they gave me SSRI's in the VA.

It turned out I had allergies....

But to what is a completely different topic, cuz I don't really have a clue, musta been all those shots B4 we jumped.


a reply to: cavtrooper7

a reply to: Teetotaler

When will it be our constitutional right to take the medicines in which we choose since we know best how we feel?

Thats a good point. After all, its not broken bones were setting, but minds. Who knows their mind best, the patient or the doctor?

I also agree that diagnosis of mental health issues is waaay off the mark. The proof of that is the meds don't cure anything. They only subdue symptoms or the awareness of symptoms so the larger world doesn't have to deal with the root cause of the problem.

We aren't healing anything, we are medicating it. We are covering it up.

I feel the answer may be much worse ,too many coincidences. Too many people going zonk out of the blue,and killing.
Someone wants something here.

The DEA audit of medical files is inappropriate. Just to add.

You must understand, that in a peaceful society, that measures cannot be taken to cover any and all cases.

You must also understand, that it is those people in a position to do so, to take an interest in covering those cases that fall outside of certain parameters.

...And they don't give a #, you are the experiment, the test subject.

So...Try not to do anything to anyone you would not have someone else do to you and push through.

Tad difficil p En Gerre.

a reply to: Cabin

a reply to: twfau


What is a behavior versus a condition. I happen to have Manic Depression, Adult ADHD and apparently Schizoaffective disorder. What I will agree upon is the fact that most of the populous is not aware of their own existence, been dumbed down, or influenced by control. Though there are some individuals such as myself who could self diagnose the problem using extensive research and understanding that a chemical imbalance is just a cause to behavioral issues. People who act in free will and choose to harm others are not enlightened and need more such as extreme therapy. The Airforce uses Provigil to keep their pilots awake for 88 hours. SSRI's are beneficial but the ultimate decision should be in our hands.

For instance, my first psychiatrist prescribed me Celexa which did wonders for my well being but did not have an effect on my dopamine levels. After myself and my doctor got into an disagreement rather I should take Zoloft or Celexa, I won out with the usage of Zoloft which indeed acts as a mild stimulant versus Celexa which only has serotonin reuptake properties.

We fell out for good when Kaiser's pharmacy accidentally handed out Adderall based off of a PPO physician.

I still take medicines from a new doctor I found but he is hesitant to touch my chart. I chose every medicine on there, so I have to weigh the good with the evil.

a reply to: Teetotaler

The issue of the TREATMENT OF CHOICE for DEPRESSION

[i.e. not brain stroke, car accident caused depression]

IS:

COGNITIVE BEHAVIORAL THERAPY.

1. it's far more effective.
2. Its effects last a lifetime.
3. There's no negative side effects.

It does require motivation and work--usually with a skilled well trained therapist.

I'm not sure I really get the gist or focus of your rant, however.

Is the mental health field a mess? Yes.

Is the Oligarchy complicit in using the mental health field, meds, techniques, research etc. against the global populace? ABSOLUTELY.

Does the Oligarchy use mental health stuff to hurt, ignore, damage, mistreat veterans even more than they have already used and abused them? Certainly.

Are there a LOT of really caring and very skilled mental health practitioners doing veterans, individuals, marriages, children and families a LOT OF GOOD? ABSOLUTELY.

Do a lot of mental health professionals damage far too many clients far too much? Yup.

The research indicates that the best therapists come from two sources:

1. Very damaged folks who HAVE SUCCESSFULLY WORKED THEIR OWN MENTAL/EMOTIONAL ISSUES THROUGH.

2. The cream of the crop of the fairly healthy, well trained professionals.

I am a psychotronic warfare victim but of course to the government i am a schizophrenic i have also dealt with the demonic between these two areas lies much of what is labelled mental illness but dont expect any government to admit that any time soon...or even begin to deal with it.

originally posted by: intrptr

Thats a good point. After all, its not broken bones were setting, but minds. Who knows their mind best, the patient or the doctor?

I also agree that diagnosis of mental health issues is waaay off the mark. The proof of that is the meds don't cure anything. They only subdue symptoms or the awareness of symptoms so the larger world doesn't have to deal with the root cause of the problem.

We aren't healing anything, we are medicating it. We are covering it up.

1. It depends on a LOT of factors as to who knows the patient's/client's mind best. I can argue both sides of that.

2. The medications, imho, are wayyyyy over prescribed. We've created a nation of zombies in a list of ways.

3. I do think most patients . . . 99.9999999% of them . . . need and deserve some fitting input into what meds they take. Nevertheless, opening the hospital doors in the 70's and turning the patients into homeless street wanderers was not an overwhelming success in terms of effective compassion and care.

4. I think it was a solution that was almost worse than the problem it sought to cure. And for many, it was worse. AT least in the hospitals they had food, shelter, clothes and a clean bed.

4.1 They didn't have their freedom--a critical issue. However, how free are they wandering the streets in a zonked out mentality . . . isolated, alone, emotionally fractured and fearful?

a reply to: khnum

I am also. Blessings go you for you. Once they believe us, it will be their problem on their hands (i.e. morality, lawsuits, incrimination).

A condition is the presentation of a collection of specific behaviours in one person. With pharmacological treatment is applied, it is always on the basis of a diagnosed condition. Therapies may have the advantage of focusing on individual thoughts and behaviours though.

In the context of what I was saying, a person becomes aggressive in a care home, they have a history of mental health, so they get put on a strong dose of anti-psychotics. It doesn't deal with the triggers, or underlying issues behind the aggression (they could just not like people in the home but be afraid/not have the mental capacity to say), but it contains the aggression and therefore looks successful from an external viewpoint.

What was the topic of this thread?.

I think it has more to do with varying pain thresholds among people.

Mine has always been high.

Or is it about self control?.

As in getting past the enormous amount of negative # we deal with day to day compared to the enormously negative amount of # we had to put up with while in service your country.

There is no " catch all " medication that cures just simply being in pain.

Pretty much all of the people I meet could not possibly understand what the hell I am talking about.

a reply to: Teetotaler

Given that the oligarchy is IN CAHOOTS

with the satanic, demonic, fallen angel overlords . . .

I'd not expect any redress until after the literal Armageddon . . . when the evil doers--those left of them--will be wiped off the planet.