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originally posted by: iosolomon
a reply to: Meee32
You seem to care about the rights of a rapist over that of a woman... THAT is what makes you a sicko...
I really do not understand why people are having such a tough time understanding my words. This isn't rocket science.
The rapist was prosecuted and sentenced. Sure, some victims might want to see their rapist stoned to death. Are you saying that we should allow the victim to have her rapist stoned to death because otherwise we would be "guilty" of caring about the rights of the rapist over that of the victim's? That IS exactly what you are saying.
What does the Constitution have to do with this? Well, people on here are calling me barbaric, backwards-thinking, disgusting, disturbing, and now you, "sicko." The Constitution IS the Law of the Land that this crime occurred in. Therefore, I will defend the Constitution, and the rights of the rapist.
Again, you people really need to read more carefully. I am not saying that rapists should be allowed to rape. I am not downplaying the trauma of the victim. All I am saying is that I am NOT a sicko for defending the Constitution. If you really think so, then go and change your Constitution. Simple, no?
Now, is there anyone else who needs me to further educate them about human rights?
I See no other reason for your pathetic sentence... I won't be conversing with you any further as your views are ridiculously out of line...
originally posted by: boncho
I haven't read over every post, but the few I did read makes me wonder if anyone actually read the full article?
The girl had texted Young asking him to spend time with her; the girl had agreed to have sex with him but just didn’t want to at school; medical records show the girl had three sexual partners and had given birth to a baby; and Young was barely 18 at the time.
She and Young testified last week at his trial that she had told Young “stop” and “no” numerous times before and during the attack at Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts, where both were students.
oung pleaded guilty to raping the girl in a music practice room at the school when he was 18. The girl testified that the two had discussed sex but all she wanted to do was kiss.
So this happened while they were both in school. The girl wanted to have sex with him, but not in the music room at the school (or so she says.)
Kind of sounds like one of those "choosing not to consent after the fact." She still went into the music room, or stayed in there with him while others were gone, claiming she only "wanted to kiss." But, most girls (especially ones that are sexually active) know where things end up...
That being said, she says she said "no" and "stop" and he either continued or was engaged in during that. In the end he takes responsibility and admits to it.
A lot of people say "no" and 'stop" but it's more like, "Oh this is bad, we shouldn't do this here...etc"
We really don't know if it's like that or, "NO!" "STOP!" the latter of course being clear and obvious. Myself, I have said "no" and "stop" plenty of times to my girlfriend when I'm not in the mood, but after a minute or two of her not giving up I usually go along with it...
That being said, this kind of thing is not, -Dude hanging out in the bushes pouncing on a schoolgirl-, it sound much more ambiguous, and given the circumstances and perhaps the age and other factors, the judge may be making the right call. The line in the sand for rape sometimes gets really, really washed out.
In this case, the kid took responsibility, the girl gets recognition, and he goes on to pay back society with his light sentence, probation and community service. Sending him away for 20 years doesn't seem like it would benefit society or make it better for anyone involved.
Young testified last week that he had a job that was to begin this week. But he did not give any details except to say his boss knew about his legal troubles. He also testified that he is engaged and his fiancée is pregnant. They plan to get married on her birthday in November.
Since the incident he's gotten married and he's employed. He doesn't sound like threat or fit the profile of some habitual rapist.
Conclusion: Given the facts, and most importantly the complete lack of, making any kind of concrete judgement on this case is silly. And if it really ignites your emotions, it's because you read too many headlines without reading the body.
originally posted by: blackthorne
what the heck is with judges and rape sentencing lately? this is disgusting. just because the girl had a child and did not cry out or resist enough, this FEMALE judge gives her rapist, who CONFESSED, only 45 days in jail! if this punk did this to my daughter, he would become a eunuch!
www.huffingtonpost.com...
“It is a deterrent to all survivors when you see a very lenient sentence like this passed down,” Villareal told WFAA. “It sends a devastating message to survivors of sexual assault. That victim’s family definitely didn’t feel like there was justice for her and for other survivors of sexual assault.”
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
I'm offended by the responsibility comment. According to the other poster I'm a "slut." That's my problem with yesterday.
I don't think, at this point, I would take much of anything that one says seriously. Bless his little heart.
Am I God?
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric
I read the article, and I read where she said no, regardless if she "led him on" she is entitled to change her mind. This is the core of my argument:
“It is a deterrent to all survivors when you see a very lenient sentence like this passed down,” Villareal told WFAA. “It sends a devastating message to survivors of sexual assault. That victim’s family definitely didn’t feel like there was justice for her and for other survivors of sexual assault.”
The problem I had with the other poster was the comment that "rape victims need to take responsibility for their actions" among other things.
As a survivor of a sexual assault as a child, I'm offended by the responsibility comment. Should I have been more responsible at 5-8 years old when a family members boyfriend decided to take advantage of me? According to the other poster I'm a "slut." That's my problem with yesterday.
originally posted by: LadyJae
originally posted by: Jennyfrenzy
I'm offended by the responsibility comment. According to the other poster I'm a "slut." That's my problem with yesterday.
I don't think, at this point, I would take much of anything that one says seriously. Bless his little heart.
Am I God?
J
originally posted by: DilligafMisfit
I gotta say the intro thread www.abovetopsecret.com... is a fascinatingly hilarious read. funny comments. funny comments.
originally posted by: Bundy
She probably did say "no" and "stop", they just forgot the word in the middle of those two, which was "don't". lol.
I don't really get the whole calling this guy a pedophile thing I mean hes 18 shes 14, they're both teenagers wtf. I don't know why there's some weird cut off date at the age of 18. 17 years old, dumb ass kid who cant make your own decisions. 18 years old, you're an adult now so apparently you're much more qualified to do everything under the sun than you were YESTERDAY when you were a 17 yo dip# kid. Makes absolutely no sense.
Every dude here knows he's seen some chick he thought was hot, THEN he found out how old she was... And he still thought she was hot he just felt bad about thinking it.
She probably did say "no" and "stop", they just forgot the word in the middle of those two, which was "don't". lol.
Every dude here knows he's seen some chick he thought was hot, THEN he found out how old she was... And he still thought she was hot he just felt bad about thinking it.