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Originally posted by niteboy82
So I chose that I liked boys at 4??? Give me a break, how would I have made that choice zappa? This is like the guy that emailed me, because he wanted to let me know that I could be made *un-gay* by changing my diet. That it was far too acidic. Of course this guy didn't even know me.
I guess he didn't realize that I am a strict believe in keeping a very alkaline state for my body.
Agenda? I have no agenda. Unless you call not wanting the things that happened to me in high school to happen to others. Is there an agenda to not want beer bottles thrown at you when you're walking home from school? Not likely. Did Mathew Shepherd have an agenda when he was beaten to a pulp in the midwest? Did his mother (whom I have personally met) have an agenda when her heart was torn apart by having her son brutally murdered for being a gay guy hitting on someone in a bar?
Yeah, I suppose maybe I do have an agenda. I don't want to be harmed. I don't harm others, I don't see why in the world my life would seem to affect you so much. I suppose you think we should just keep kids in the mindset that it is a horrible "condition" and allow these horrible facts to continue. Look at the intolerance that happened just today that caused someone else I know to be harmed because of this nonsense.
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How many more friends must I suffer to lose before the box that you live in can feel more secure?
Originally posted by zappafan1
The homosexuals (not "gays") have an agenda, all right.
As for the above, no-one knows what they like, relationship or sexually-wise, at 4 years. Puleeeeze.
Yes, fudge-packing and skin-fluting is not "normal", it's aberrent and abhorrent behaviour that children should not know about until they are old and wise enough to form their own opinion. Notice I haven't mentioned the "moral"/religious viewpoints on this issue.
As for getting beat up: 'ya makes your choices and face whatever comes if you throw it in someones face, or approach someone normal.
Sorry! Your choices DO harm others in many ways, including what it costs Americans in tax money treating Aids. I linked to that in this thread, I think, but I can link to it, again, if you'd like.
The "changing the diet" thing is rediculous, as I know you agree. What a moron. I hope you told him so.
Originally posted by zappafan1
It does not usually fall upon the "norm" to explain how those who are different become that way. The Homosexual agenda has done everything to explain their proposal that homosexuality is something they didn't choose, yet they can't explain their condition. If they can't, how can I?
Because there is no gay gene, or any other "forced" provacation to become homosexual, that somehow means there must be "some other explanation or theory" for their choices? Really? Other than my finding in an earlier post concerning some homosexuals having a brain defect, why is "some other theory" mandatory or required?
There is much documentation out by those who were "straight", tried being homosexual, then went straight, again.
Originally posted by zappafan1
I've been watching the Homosexual agenda advance for over 35 years. Heterosexuality is "normal", in all species, yet in most all species there is the small percentage, around two to three percent, that are homosexual. Being "normal", it's not up to me to explain why others are the way they are, or why they choose to be that way. Sorry.
Originally posted by Two Steps Forward
Originally posted by zappafan1
I've been watching the Homosexual agenda advance for over 35 years. Heterosexuality is "normal", in all species, yet in most all species there is the small percentage, around two to three percent, that are homosexual. Being "normal", it's not up to me to explain why others are the way they are, or why they choose to be that way. Sorry.
And around and around in circles they go . . .
For I think about the third time, Zappafan, I am not asking you to explain how homosexuals become homosexuals. I am asking you to offer any evidence that homosexuals CHOOSE to be homosexual.
That's really not all that hard to understand. If you again offer the side-step you did above, I'm going to conclude you're being deliberately obtuse.
Originally posted by zappafan1
REPLY: What's so hard to understand..I'm not the one who started the whole "choice" issue
and since others have said it's NOT a choice, it's up to them to prove why it's not.
".... The mainstream media has ignored a major news story out of Massachusetts involving a first grader who was dragged and beaten on the playground at Estabrook Elementary School in Lexington. His crime? He is the son of David Parker, a concerned parent who objects to his son being taught about homosexuality. School officials have admitted that the attack on his son was planned and premeditated!"
If much of the issue is about "tolerance", it seems to be rather one-sided.
Originally posted by Two Steps Forward
Originally posted by zappafan1
REPLY: What's so hard to understand..I'm not the one who started the whole "choice" issue
Yes, you are. You asserted that it is a choice.
and since others have said it's NOT a choice, it's up to them to prove why it's not.
Wrong, but never mind. The evidence for homosexuality not being a choice is twofold:
1) Heterosexuality is certainly not a choice -- I never made a choice to be straight. I am attracted to women, not attracted to men, and that's just how it is, just how I'm wired. I see no reason not to believe it's exactly the same for gay people as it is for me.
REPLY: Why would being "normal" have to be a choice? My whole point is that up until a few years ago being homosexual was a physical or mental disorder, then was changed by pressure against the American Psycological Association. Only, maybe, three percent of our population is attracted to the same sex, yet their agenda is being forced upon our children as early as pre-school, before they have enough knowledge or intelligence to make a rational decision. The American Teachers Association is pushing for books depicting how homosexuals have played a part in American history; what's next? books about those who believe in and practice beastiality? About the same percentage of Americans practice that, so is it "normal" ..... would you not think that they had a choice? Have you heard of NAMBLA? Is pedophilia a choice, or "normal?
".... The mainstream media has ignored a major news story out of Massachusetts involving a first grader who was dragged and beaten on the playground at Estabrook Elementary School in Lexington. His crime? He is the son of David Parker, a concerned parent who objects to his son being taught about homosexuality. School officials have admitted that the attack on his son was planned and premeditated!"
Well, that's awful. The kids who did it should be severely punished, of course. Even though I am highly skeptical of the reason given for the beating. Much more likely, he said something insulting to them, perhaps calling them fags or homos, and they decided to take a piece out of his hide. Not that that's any excuse, of course.
REPLY: I agree.
If much of the issue is about "tolerance", it seems to be rather one-sided.
Let me get this straight.
An objection is raised to oppression of and violence against homosexuals. A film encouraging acceptance and tolerance of homosexuals is shown in schools to attempt to raise people's awareness of the problem and change attitudes.
REPLY: .... to "change attitudes" to make kids believe it's "normal". THAT'S the problem. The school systems gorget who the parents are, and it should be up to the parents to decide what their kids are taught in school. Unfortunately, that's changed over tha past 30+ years. I saw the agenda of the Nat'l Teachers Assoc. from last year; an entire weekend, and nothing was mentioned about how to get our kids a better education, it was all about politics and "gender related" issues. THAT'S the problem. It's bad enough that most of the books used to teach science, history, etc, are rife with errors.
In response, you present a beating, which may or may not have been committed by gay students, of a boy whose father was an anti-gay activist, for reasons that are asserted to be connected with that (without any evidence of that assertion being presented).
No one who has advocated tolerance for gay people is identified as having anything to do with the beating.
Yet on this basis you claim the call for tolerance is one-sided?
Originally posted by zappafan1
REPLY: I didn't say the father was anti-gay
If the kids doing the beating thought they were homosexual, then it would be a "hate crime" wouldn't it?
Originally posted by cashlink
I find this thred discusting and the post who posted this should be band from here.
Another way of exspessing HATRED againce GAYS!!!! SHAME ON YOU!!!