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MysterX
reply to post by Bedlam
Without those people in science, we'd be very much poorer
MysterX
If so...it is about bloody time this obvious fact was woken up to.
The Universe didn't create these scientific laws...Human being did, and Human beings are not anywhere near as infallible as we'd like to think we are.
RationalDespair
There is a large community within the ATS community that will not let anyone question anything about current scientific paradigms.
GetHyped
RationalDespair
There is a large community within the ATS community that will not let anyone question anything about current scientific paradigms.
These pseudo-scientists (and their supporters) want to have the scientific seal of approval on their pet ideas but aren't prepared to have them held to close scientific scrutiny.
Bedlam
GetHyped
I did wonder why OP was pushing this so hard yet there was no other coverage or discussion elsewhere.
Notice how carefully it was avoided in the OP, by the OP. The first clue was the OP's post that said "Because Planck’s constant formulates the basis for quantum physics, and because Planck’s Law of Thermal Emission is based on KLTE, and because Stefan’s Law of Thermal Emission is based on Planck and Boltzmann constants, virtually all the standard models describing astrophysical objects are invalid...", I immediately said "Whups, the OP and this dude are EU", and a bit of Googling proved it in terms of Robitaille.There's other crankdom that Robitaille belongs to. I'll leave it to the interested to ferret it out. I'd be surprised if he retains his tenure.
I haven't looked at his bonafides, maybe he's got a doctorate from Trinity College and University like Bearden.
Prof. Robitaille states that, as a result, Planck came to see the graphite particle as a catalyst, when in fact, it was acting as a perfect absorber.
Recently there has been some work done at the University of Michigan regarding carbon nanotubes usefulness as stealth technology on aircraft. It has been found that in addition to the radar absorbing properties, the nanotubes neither reflect nor scatter visible light, making it essentially invisible at night, much like painting current stealth aircraft black except much more effective.
RationalDespair
Very nice original post. I don't like all the ungrounded ad-hom replies in the rest of the thread, but I for one, will take a look at this video when I get home and read the source material.
There is a large community within the ATS community that will not let anyone question anything about current scientific paradigms.
RationalDespair
GetHyped
RationalDespair
There is a large community within the ATS community that will not let anyone question anything about current scientific paradigms.
These pseudo-scientists (and their supporters) want to have the scientific seal of approval on their pet ideas but aren't prepared to have them held to close scientific scrutiny.
Fair enough, but I was talking about this thread in particular, in which not a single reply is justified by using close scientific scrutiny. All I hear is "peer review this, pseudo-science that, cranks, nutters, flat earthers, electric universe supporter", etc., which have nothing to with the matter being presented. Also, I clearly pointed out that I had no opinion on the OP's subject yet, but that I was willing to have an objective look. And that is exactly what the established scientific community openly refuses. How do you expect any progress at all without having an open mind?edit on 11/4/2014 by RationalDespair because: typo
Kirchhoff and Planck should have considered the perfectly reflecting case as a separate valid case, yet they did not. This serious error resulted in Kirchhoff and Planck believing that their equations could be applied universally. Consequently, Planckian radiation is dependent on the nature of the radiating object.
mbkennel
RationalDespair
GetHyped
RationalDespair
There is a large community within the ATS community that will not let anyone question anything about current scientific paradigms.
These pseudo-scientists (and their supporters) want to have the scientific seal of approval on their pet ideas but aren't prepared to have them held to close scientific scrutiny.
Fair enough, but I was talking about this thread in particular, in which not a single reply is justified by using close scientific scrutiny. All I hear is "peer review this, pseudo-science that, cranks, nutters, flat earthers, electric universe supporter", etc., which have nothing to with the matter being presented. Also, I clearly pointed out that I had no opinion on the OP's subject yet, but that I was willing to have an objective look. And that is exactly what the established scientific community openly refuses. How do you expect any progress at all without having an open mind?edit on 11/4/2014 by RationalDespair because: typo
Alright, you want to talk physics? Here we go. Quote from the original post
Kirchhoff and Planck should have considered the perfectly reflecting case as a separate valid case, yet they did not. This serious error resulted in Kirchhoff and Planck believing that their equations could be applied universally. Consequently, Planckian radiation is dependent on the nature of the radiating object.
This is a "no # Sherlock" moment. Actual scientists have known about the physical properties which influence emissivity into non black body spectra for decades. That the 'perfectly reflecting case' doesn't obey a Planckian black body spectrum is plainly obvious because in that case the electromgnetic radiation in the cavity is NOT in thermal equilibrium with the surrounding wall. That perfect absorption is necessary is hardly news, it was the entire point of the derivation: the result of equilibrium between heat vibration in the walls and the modes of electromagnetism result in Planck spectra.
In sum, the original crank thinks he has discovered a 'flaw' which all scientists have known since the beginning.
AnarchoCapitalist
That's simply a flat out lie. Standard theory does not treat the introduction of carbon as a necessary absorber. It treats it as a transducer.
I noticed you ignored his points about the emissivity of gas and the convection of liquids too.
Because Planck’s constant formulates the basis for quantum physics, and because Planck’s Law of Thermal Emission is based on KLTE, and because Stefan’s Law of Thermal Emission is based on Planck and Boltzmann constants,
virtually all the standard models describing astrophysical objects are invalid.
The only time those “laws” are valid is when the cavity they describe is the interior of a perfect blackbody object, which is never the case in reality. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Bedlam
reply to post by mbkennel
I see this more of the sort of intentional just-so misinterpretation that Creation Scientists do. The sort where the end result is drawings of Jesus riding a dinosaur.
This is an Electric Universe dino Jesus piece. It's why you avoid advocacy science.