CNN and FOX News Completely Ignored Mississippi's New Anti-Gay Segregation Law

reply to post by SevenThunders

You know, all in all, you're starting to get pretty offensive.
Just sayin, eh?

JohnnyCanuck
reply to post by SevenThunders

 

You know, all in all, you're starting to get pretty offensive.
Just sayin, eh?

Good. That is the essence of free speech. I must be hitting close to home then. I don't make up the morality laws as I go along. That is the fundamental error of Marxists and atheists who have captured the mental processes of western civilization. But then they believe in the great nothing; that is nothing created everything, so therefore anything goes, including situational ethics and situational morality.

I recommend you examine your offense and try to rationally understand how you formed your opinion that homosexuality is a wholesome and natural expression of love, etc. I believe you will see that it has been hammered into you by a controlling thought matrix consisting of media and government elites.

Go watch some Yuri Bezmenov speeches on youtube and come back when you are better informed.

reply to post by SevenThunders


Maybe you are being corrupted by being told what to think?

Just to be clear Heterosexuals practice the same sex as Homosexuals, Me loving another Guy is not immoral.

i am not calling you a bigot or homophobic, but if your beliefs go along with what you write you are promoting discrimination, which you are free to believe if you want too. but it's hypocritical telling us we are "immoral" when you condone discrimination among other things you are told to believe...

i have to wonder if the people that want to use this Law are focused on all the immortal sins or just using it as an excuse for discrimination against us sinning homosexuals

reply to post by Darth_Prime


First let me commend you on your restraint; in participating in this debate without incrimination and by resisting the temptation to fire an emotionally charged response. This is not easy, especially for a self professed homosexual in a potentially still hostile culture.

As I said before the normalization of homosexuality by the powers that be is almost a side issue. They are normalizing every behavior that they can which has the potential to undermine our society and culture. There are sins worse than homosexuality that they wish to normalize; things like pedophilia, bestiality, occult practices, and eventually I believe child sacrifice.

These things are practiced by the elite.
www.redicecreations.com...

The issue to decide is whether God is real and means what he says in his book, the Bible, or if he has the same influence as say Santa Claus or the tooth fairy in an individual's life. It is easy to create a God of our own making who approves of our various behaviors. Let's take adultery or more generally sex outside of marriage for example.

Everyone does that right? Our movie heroes are heroes at fornication as well, and we should emulate them yes? Yet there are very negative consequences associated with this behavior, including STDs and single parent families (one of the greatest precursors of childhood poverty). A rational society with a rational leadership would not promote or condone behaviors with an overwhelming negative consequence, and yet it does so with fervor. This was not the case in times past.

What has changed is that the elite have created a critical mass of unthinking and dare I say self pleasuring drones. This too is by design and we are all victims of it. Homosexuality is just one of those vices that they use to achieve their ends. The reasons for the goal of demoralization are varied, but that is another topic.

AnteBellum

As for Atheists killing people well. . . who cares! They are atheists, I am not and it doesn't relate here.
I know many good baptists, I was married to one for 4 years, even went to church with the family and sang along with the flock. Nashville and Chattanooga to be exact. As for them teaching my kids, no problem as long as they aren't pedophiles!

No you sound like a christian atheist to me. God has little to no influence on your life. Most of America's self proclaimed christians are in this category so you are not alone.

As for picking outliers I could do that too for any group. I suspect that any group that is involved with children will attract pedophiles, some more than others. The overall social statistics are probably what matters.

www.barna.org...

To that end having a christian worldview (some 4 percent of Americans), makes a huge difference in the various negative social behaviors that people engage in, such as divorce, pornography, gambling, drug use etc. For the christian atheist the statistics are the same if not worse than the heathen, as could be expected if God has no real impact on them. Indeed they are probably a favorite target of the devil, who is very very real by the way.

reply to post by SevenThunders


But the Bible wasn't written by Jesus or God correct? i mean i am ignorant about Religion so i may be wrong... but i thought they were written as stories that these people experienced? if so "Corruption" and or wrongly documentation may occur

Homosexuality has existed long before these "Ruling Elites" correct?

yes the Government/Media will utilize the LGBTQ as a political pawn, that i can't deny, if i believed they had our best interest in their hearts Same Sex marriage would bee legal in the entire United States and wouldn't have to be voted on, likewise Discrimination laws wouldn't get passed

Mississippi is not playing around with the gay agenda. I am very proud of them and am still holding onto hope that Tennessee will follow suit and pass similar laws.
This has a great deal to do with the topic at hand. The small town I live in has a McDonalds and I rarely go there but being a small town I know several people that work there. This particular McNasties is a franchise store and the man that owns it owns around 10 or so. His company policy has always been one that states employees cannot have visible tattoos. A few years ago a lady working there decided to challenge this rule and got a tattoo on her wrist of her kids names. She was let go.
Last week a gay fellow working there went and got a tattoo on his wrist of two rainbow colored male symbols together. It is a large bright tattoo. The owner told him he can keep it and does not have to hide it.
My point is this, the discrimination or anti discrimination crap has gotten out of hand. We are now seeing people jump through hoops to accommodate gays while still discriminating against all others. Don't you guys think that by forcing all of this anti discrimination stuff that it in turns discriminates against others. This McNasties owner in an effort to be anti discriminate against gay people just discriminated against a woman and her kids.

reply to post by SevenThunders

No you sound like a christian atheist to me. God has little to no influence on your life. Most of America's self proclaimed christians are in this category so you are not alone.

I am not an atheist, I believe in god, Just not organized religion. The category I'm in is something else.

People's views on morally acceptable behavior are deeply impacted by their worldview. Upon comparing the perspectives of those who have a biblical worldview with those who do not, the former group were 31 times less likely to accept cohabitation (2% versus 62%, respectively); 18 times less likely to endorse drunkenness (2% versus 36%); 15 times less likely to condone gay sex (2% versus 31%); 12 times less likely to accept profanity 3% versus 37%); and 11 times less likely to describe adultery as morally acceptable (4% versus 44%). In addition, less than one-half of one percent of those with a biblical worldview said voluntary exposure to pornography was morally acceptable (compared to 39% of other adults), and a similarly miniscule proportion endorsed abortion (compared to 46% of adults who lack a biblical worldview)

How can you make a statistical analysis on intent??? That's like asking someone if they like cake when they have never tried it. But if you are religiously bound you'd be more likely to accept cake's fluffy delicious goodness or chocolately decadence. I do not fear god, I do not mourn god either. In my understanding it would be impossible for one to achieve even the slightest understanding of god on a human level and that doesn't stop me from living a highly moral lifestyle.

reply to post by Christian Voice


Weren't you arguing in another thread or multiple threads recently for a business owner's rights to conduct their business as they chose? Assuming your anecdote about the business owner is correct, under your previously stated position, isn't he completely within his rights? How is it discrimination for him to decide what tattoos he will allow and disallow ... it is *his* business, right?

Follow-up question. Can you provide a few actual linked examples of pro-gay discrimination, i.e. where a non-gay person was discriminated against in favor of a gay person? Other than, of course, the McDonald's tattoo inequity that you've already mentioned. Thank you in advance.

AnteBellum

It seems straight men take more offense when being stared at by gay men, then straight women by lesbians. You guys will have to fight this one out yourselves then, I obviously have a bias.

I know this reply is late as hell but an incident on the street yesterday made me think of it.

Not saying this is an absolute or a rule or anything but as a heterosexual male when I notice I am being stared at by a female my first thoughts are to sexual attraction. Make a ruling as to whether or not I would accept it or avoid it.

When I notice I am being stared at by a male my mind immediately goes to threat determination. Sexual attraction just doesnt register at all.

So any discomfort I may be showing through action or body language is stemming from "am I going to have to fight this guy".
When it's a female it's always sex. Probably why so many men get taken by a female out to rob or cause harm. Their brains are not hitting on the right cues and they can't stop thinking with their dicks.

So I imagine for a homosexual male the attraction measure trumps the threat measure just as it would for a heterosexual male being stared at by a woman.

Like I said, not saying it's a rule or evolution or anything but just something I was thinking about. Seemed to be reinforced by the whole making eye contact on the street thing leading to hostile attitudes.

For me female=sex; male=threat. It's not like I have any way of knowing I'm being stared at for attraction reasons by a male. They don't go around wearing "Gay as Hell!" t-shirts or anything. I just know a male is staring and I perceive it as threat potential.

For a homosexual it may be that male=sex followed by stranger=possible threat.

Maybe a homosexual can weight in?

Can't answer for females and how they perceive lesbians obviously but still lesbians don't go around wearing "Les as Hell!" shirts either so maybe women just dont see threat potential the way males do. That would make sense with the whole aggression/testosterone thing I suppose.

minusinfinity
reply to post by AnteBellum

 

Discrimination of any type on any level should not be accepted.

I agree with what you said about how in this age it exists is unbelievable. For some reason racial hatred seems higher now than it seemed ten or fifteen years ago.

As far as sexual preference goes I couldn't care less. Who you do your sex stuff to is your business. (as long as you aren't abusing children.)

I don't discriminate against anybody, I'm an ass to everybody regardless of your religion, sex, age, race or nationality.

excepted?..... in America?....it's glorified and nurtured.....if not, there wouldn't be any

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Great point but yea, I'm not lesbian or bi so I can't make a honest determination for that. As for me though, I stare at other women all the time. I guess it's a girl thing looking at how they are dressed, stuff they have, shoe and purses, does it fit right, colors, would I look cute in it, all that BS. I never see other women as potential threats but often I think I am perceived by them as threatening. I don't know half the time.

It amazes me as a person who is not GLBT how much anger has been directed by others just for association of this thread. I have been at ATS for years and in no other one thread have I been targeted by 'Trolls'(thank you puptuls) and the amount of hate energy that has been displayed here. All of it from angry religious believers trying to RAM a certain viewpoint down others throats. The initial thread had nothing to do with it, it was a comment on the MSM coverage! You all spun it the way you wanted it to be heard, not me!
During the french inquisition many were roasted and burned at the stake for heresy. I can understand the threat this movement is making toward some of you, not me. Hopefully when there numbers are far greater then yours, which is happening rapidly, they will show you all the same compassion and understanding you showed them, at the end of a torch!

reply to post by AnteBellum


You don't have to be in an organised religion like you said to be Christian. What you do have to do is establish the religious teachings in your life somehow otherwise you are an Atheist Christian. The essence of being Christian is establishing those teachings in your life, not your opinion, not someone else's but the Bible's command to the individual reading. Again, anything around that is Atheist or Antichrist.

SevenThunders
I recommend you examine your offense and try to rationally understand how you formed your opinion that homosexuality is a wholesome and natural expression of love, etc.

Well, since the Mods are ok with you really insulting some 10% of society based upon bronze-age Middle Eastern Folk Tales, then it must be ok for me to write you off as yet another god-bothering loony who really ought not to spend quite so much time distressing about what others might be doing with their naughty bits.

It's just creepy, eh?

xuenchen
Can anybody cite the actual language that is discriminatory?

Or is this all "implied" ?

It must be there somewhere.

Given the hysteria of MSNBC in general and Mellissa Harris-Parry specifically, I would not be surprised that they are being intentionally inflammatory. She's the commentator who said several disgusting and racist things about Romney's adoptive grandchild. Typical leftist hate and vitriol.

Here's a crazy idea, how about instead of having more laws and lawsuits, let's just have more freedom? Freedom of association. Everybody should be able to associate with or not associate with whomever they choose. Certainly some bigots might not associate with gays or straights or whites or blacks, but sometimes you have to tolerate a little crappy behavior if you truly want a free society.

SevenThunders

JohnnyCanuck
reply to post by SevenThunders

 

You know, all in all, you're starting to get pretty offensive.
Just sayin, eh?

Good. That is the essence of free speech. I must be hitting close to home then. I don't make up the morality laws as I go along. That is the fundamental error of Marxists and atheists who have captured the mental processes of western civilization. But then they believe in the great nothing; that is nothing created everything, so therefore anything goes, including situational ethics and situational morality.

I recommend you examine your offense and try to rationally understand how you formed your opinion that homosexuality is a wholesome and natural expression of love, etc. I believe you will see that it has been hammered into you by a controlling thought matrix consisting of media and government elites.

Go watch some Yuri Bezmenov speeches on youtube and come back when you are better informed.

You will find homosexuality all throughout nature and has been accept throughout the ages by many races. Hatred of homosexuality and the idea that it is not natural has been hammered into peoples minds by the Abrahamic religions mostly by Christianity and Judaism.

NavyDoc

xuenchen
Can anybody cite the actual language that is discriminatory?

Or is this all "implied" ?

It must be there somewhere.

Given the hysteria of MSNBC in general and Mellissa Harris-Parry specifically, I would not be surprised that they are being intentionally inflammatory. She's the commentator who said several disgusting and racist things about Romney's adoptive grandchild. Typical leftist hate and vitriol.

Here's a crazy idea, how about instead of having more laws and lawsuits, let's just have more freedom? Freedom of association. Everybody should be able to associate with or not associate with whomever they choose. Certainly some bigots might not associate with gays or straights or whites or blacks, but sometimes you have to tolerate a little crappy behavior if you truly want a free society.

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Then get rid of the 14th amendment. What the heck let's get rid of all the amendments then let total chaos reign.