Police Shoot and Kill Man for Watering Lawn

minusinfinity
reply to post by Advantage

 

Maybe he was "innocent" then why were the police called?

Wow. Really? REALLY?

I often joke that people like you exist. People who assume you must be guilty if cops are talking to you or that being arrested means your guilty and that all trials are a waste because if you were arrested you're clearly guilty and all defense attorneys are scum because obviously all defendants are guilty.

But to actually know people like you exist?

I just hope you're being sarcastic. Yeah, that's it. You're just being sarcastic. That'll help me sleep.

minusinfinity
reply to post by dashen

 

Sorry.

I didn't mean to call you an idiot.

People who fire at officers are what they are.

Why would you be in a situation where police would feel the need to shoot at you?

Never in my life have I experienced a time where I was taking cover from police gunfire.

I do not know why police run up unprovoked and kill people. But sadly there is a huge and ever-growing list of such cases. Just hit the ats search button.

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reply to post by Krazysh0t


No.

I'm saying someone called the police.

Do you think a cop drove by, saw the guy watering his lawn, called in back up then shot the guy twelve times?

Why because he was using too much water?!?

There was a reason.

Period.

reply to post by minusinfinity


Have you considered the possible "Altered State of Mind" His Neighbors were in to think that he was Wielding a Gun?
His Neighbors could have wanted revenge on him.and they got it.

Someone please find and post information about the neighbors?

Were they old with terrible sight?
Was there a feud between them?
Was his neighbor pissed that he lives next to a stoner?

Two side of a Coin here ATS'ers.
Regards,

thisguyrighthere

minusinfinity
reply to post by Advantage

 

Maybe he was "innocent" then why were the police called?

Wow. Really? REALLY?

I often joke that people like you exist. People who assume you must be guilty if cops are talking to you or that being arrested means your guilty and that all trials are a waste because if you were arrested you're clearly guilty and all defense attorneys are scum because obviously all defendants are guilty.

But to actually know people like you exist?

I just hope you're being sarcastic. Yeah, that's it. You're just being sarcastic. That'll help me sleep.

Enjoy your nightmares and restless sleep. I wasn't being sarcastic.

reply to post by minusinfinity


And that reason was explained in the article as well as by several people in this thread already. His neighbors saw him holding a spray nozzle, thought it was a gun, and called the police. Maybe while he was high, he was pretending it was a gun and making gun noises and motions, but that STILL isn't a justifiable reason to call the police.

minusinfinity
reply to post by Krazysh0t

 

No.

I'm saying someone called the police.

Do you think a cop drove by, saw the guy watering his lawn, called in back up then shot the guy twelve times?

Why because he was using too much water?!?

There was a reason.

Period.

Do you read any of the posts here.. or the article you are speaking about?? Your question has been answered... more than once.

I realize youre new, but if you cant read an article in order to discuss it.. youre going to have problems.

reply to post by minusinfinity


You haven't considered that his neighbors could have been "disturbed mentally" to think that a stoner would water his lawn with a gun?

So how do we know he was watering his lawn? By Other Neighbors, Who Clearly Saw that He Was Spraying H2O on Grass.

Regards,

DestroyDestroyDestroy

minusinfinity
reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy

 

Okay I did a quick search and discovered that this happened in 2010. Why are you posting this four years after it happened?

The family of a man fatally shot by Long Beach police in 2010 was awarded $6.5 million in damages by a federal jury on Thursday.

ktla.com...

Could it be your source looks for anything in the news only to make people angry with the government?

The police were wrong but....

He had a blood-alcohol level of 0.42% and had Valium and THC in his system at the time of his death.

Not saying he deserved to be gunned down but he wasn't just out watering his lawn.

Get the whole story before you jump 2 conclusions.

The case was recently settled, hence the family getting 6.5 million out of it. This is the first time that I've heard about it.

Regardless of his mental and physical state at the time of the shooting, he posed no actual threat to the cops. Shoot first and ask questions later is cold blooded murder.

6.5 million, that buys a lot of amnesia.

Krazysh0t
reply to post by minusinfinity

 

And that reason was explained in the article as well as by several people in this thread already. His neighbors saw him holding a spray nozzle, thought it was a gun, and called the police. Maybe while he was high, he was pretending it was a gun and making gun noises and motions, but that STILL isn't a justifiable reason to call the police.

Check this out...

The Zerby family attorney Dale Galipo took Carrillo through the wounds and damage inflicted by each and was even able to get the medical examiner to say it was possible that Zerby never raised his arms into a shooting position as the defense has claimed and was in a slumped position when shot.

www.presstelegram.com...

reply to post by Advantage


Heh. He was probably in the middle of passing out from the combination of Valium and Marijuana. Man sleeping stoners, the next biggest threat to American freedom.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy


Question: How many life threatening guns have water comming out of them?

Just askin.

Krazysh0t
reply to post by minusinfinity

 

And that reason was explained in the article as well as by several people in this thread already. His neighbors saw him holding a spray nozzle, thought it was a gun, and called the police. Maybe while he was high, he was pretending it was a gun and making gun noises and motions, but that STILL isn't a justifiable reason to call the police.

Honestly?

Fine. He was being foolish.

I wasn't there, I assume nobody posting was there, but I bet the police gave him a chance to drop his "weapon" before they opened fire.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

Already I agreed the police used excessive force. Why not taser the stoner?

Just saying not all police are evil. One person suggested we just open fire on police before they shoot us.

I'm out.

Believe what you wish.

Take care.

minusinfinity
reply to post by Advantage

 

Maybe he was "innocent" then why were the police called?

I see people watering the lawn and they don't get shot.

Hmmmm........

Congrats, but what happened to this guy was the neighbors called the cops and told them that he had a gun, that is why the police were called.

minusinfinity

Krazysh0t
reply to post by minusinfinity

 

And that reason was explained in the article as well as by several people in this thread already. His neighbors saw him holding a spray nozzle, thought it was a gun, and called the police. Maybe while he was high, he was pretending it was a gun and making gun noises and motions, but that STILL isn't a justifiable reason to call the police.

Honestly?

Fine. He was being foolish.

I wasn't there, I assume nobody posting was there, but I bet the police gave him a chance to drop his "weapon" before they opened fire.

You're right, none of us were there. All we have is the information in the article to go on. Which spells out the situation pretty clearly and obviously the courts agreed with this account of things since they awarded his family $6.5 million.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

Already I agreed the police used excessive force. Why not taser the stoner?

Why not just ask him what he was doing or state that they were even there? Why jump immediately to force to begin with?

Just saying not all police are evil. One person suggested we just open fire on police before they shoot us.

Not all police are evil, but you may want to stop giving them the benefit of the doubt all the time.

I'm out.

Believe what you wish.

Take care.

Enjoy your stay on ATS, though for future reference, it helps to read the whole article before responding. Every one of your grievances and counterpoints were discussed in the article or are irrelevant (the drug issue).

Hi reader of THIS post.
Guess what?
YOU could be next!

Is NOW the time to do something about it?

minusinfinity

Just saying not all police are evil. One person suggested we just open fire on police before they shoot us
Take care.

what I said was self defense was in order because modern police training is to shoot first and ask questions later. That being the case if a police officer draws their gun on you you are more and more likely to be killed for no reason. I would rather kill my potential murderer then be killed for no reason

minusinfinity
I wasn't there, I assume nobody posting was there, but I bet the police gave him a chance to drop his "weapon" before they opened fire.

Uh, no. If you actually read what people have been posting, the guy was slumped over, in a sitting position. The medical examiner said that he likely never raised his arms.

Why are you trying so hard to sympathize with the police here?

It's pretty black and white. The guy was not a threat. He was not even behaving in a threatening manner. They shot him 12 times.

A man is slumped over, likely about to pass out, and they shoot him 12 times. They don't question his motives, they don't examine what he is holding, they aren't even remotely threatened.

Does this raise any alarms?

reply to post by Krazysh0t

Enjoy your stay on ATS, though for future reference, it helps to read the whole article before responding. Every one of your grievances and counterpoints were discussed in the article or are irrelevant (the drug issue).

How are my responses 'irrelevant'?

If you were as wise as you believe yourself to be you would take into account information from more than a single source.

He had a blood-alcohol level of 0.42% and had Valium and THC in his system at the time of his death. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

how is that info. not relevant? Is it because it doesn't support your agenda?

maybe you should run for public office.

dashen
Shouldn't bring a water gun to a gunfight.
At this point it just seems safer to shoot at a cop before he shoots at you.

In a twisted world this makes sense.

I'm sure the cops will be given paid leave while the "investigation" is conducted. In 2 weeks to a month they'll be back on duty, maybe even given a medal.