Historic Breaking News: Canada, Vatican & Crown GUILTY of Genocide

sled735
reply to post by Murgatroid

 

I watched the video. I am extremely disturbed by the natives who shared their story.

This is totally unacceptable!!

My hat goes off to Rev. Annett for all he has done to help get this story out, and make those SOBs pay!!

I shouldn't have watched this before going to bed. Now I'm too upset to sleep.

I'd like to hang those bast***ds up by their toenails, skin them and then pour alcohol all over them!! Then stick a 1000 watt wire up their butt and watch them fry!!!

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Many of the perpetrators are deceased. The generations which followed have and are paying for it.
Move on.

reply to post by sled735

My hat goes off to Rev. Annett for all he has done to help get this story out, and make those SOBs pay!!

I don't know why you keep missing the posts that point out that both Annett and the claims made in your OP are demonstrated frauds. Is that intentional?

If the First Nations people don't want anything to do with Annett, why do you persist in thinking that they should? They don't want to be associated with him because he's a fraud, a liar and a conman who does more damage to their cause every time he opens his mouth. Such as the time last year when he announced that the ITCCS was dissolving the nation of Canada.

If that's the kind of lunacy that you want to line up behind, feel free.

Oh, and he is not a Reverend, either, for that matter -- he was defrocked by the United Church of Canada for fraudulent behaviour, almost 20 years ago. Here are the details of the case against him: Formal Hearing Panel Decision.

reply to post by adjensen


It was a copy and paste opportunity. Forgive me.

reply to post by Cynic


And you will continue to pay for it, as will your kids and grandkids. Your forefathers signed the treaties. Get over it and move on.

TKDRL
reply to post by Cynic

 

And you will continue to pay for it, as will your kids and grandkids. Your forefathers signed the treaties. Get over it and move on.

So did yours. It's too bad they traded beads for the St. Laurence river. Get over yourself. The next time FN blockade a railway line with a school bus, my money will be on the on-rushing locomotive. After all, the cops don't seem to intervene with the rights of the ROC, turnabout is fair play.

reply to post by Cynic


Turnabout is fair play eh? You haven't seen no "turnabout". Treaties have been ignored and abused for a long time with impunity, because at the time the government could keep their trespasses hush-hush, and they had the powerful arm of the RCMP to do their bidding. That is not the case anymore thanks to the internet. They can't keep it quiet, and the more the general public learns, the more they are disgusted with people like you.

Quite frankly, you will see no "turnabout", as we respect the land, even the land that "is not ours". We will not pollute your water or your land. We will not herd you like cattle into a pen. We will not rip your kids from you and send them to reeducation camps, starve and rape your children while they are there just because we can get away with it.

Cynic
Genocide - No.
Poor judgement - Yes.
Government Apology issued - Yes
Current Generation Responsible - No.
Billions already paid - Yes
Move on.

It is considered genocide in the same way America committed genocide to the African Slaves we brought over. The culture and ethnic identity of a people were destroyed. As a race they were left with none of their language, family, name, or any cultural ties to who they are. In a sense, the attempt was made to eradicate the aboriginals. Never mind reports of rape, torture, unlicensed experimentation, and a murder/disappearance rate greater than other ethnic groups in Canada.

adjensen
reply to post by sled735

 

My hat goes off to Rev. Annett for all he has done to help get this story out, and make those SOBs pay!!

I don't know why you keep missing the posts that point out that both Annett and the claims made in your OP are demonstrated frauds. Is that intentional?

If the First Nations people don't want anything to do with Annett, why do you persist in thinking that they should? They don't want to be associated with him because he's a fraud, a liar and a conman who does more damage to their cause every time he opens his mouth. Such as the time last year when he announced that the ITCCS was dissolving the nation of Canada.

If that's the kind of lunacy that you want to line up behind, feel free.

Oh, and he is not a Reverend, either, for that matter -- he was defrocked by the United Church of Canada for fraudulent behaviour, almost 20 years ago. Here are the details of the case against him: Formal Hearing Panel Decision.

Yes, I DO feel free, and I AM choosing to line up behind him!
He seems to be the only person that had/has enough balls to go up against the PTB who were responsible for these notorious acts against the Aboriginal Natives.
Yes, THEY, TPB, stripped him of his title, through him out of the church, caused him to loose everything, because he exposed their "dirty laundry", but he kept on fighting the fight, and is STILL fighting the fight to expose those evil doers!!!

Watch that video that Murgatroid posted. Maybe you will learn something. The Aboriginal people seemed to like him very much in the public protest demonstrations in the film.

What I don't understand, is why you, or anyone else, can sit there and throw stones at this man!! Shows what kind of person you are.

This is old news already...

The government paid large sums towards the survivors of the schools.

This money promptly went to the lawyers.

So... Business as usual.

The people involved were severely scarred emotionally. The effects on them and on their immediate family will be felt for generations.

Instead of paying the lawyer's fees, giving the people land to add to what is owned by their band and building sweat lodges and cultural centers to help reclaim what was lost, they just throw money at the wind and hope it all goes away.

Wait... that's standard government practice isn't it?

All good then.

adjensen
reply to post by sled735

 

My hat goes off to Rev. Annett for all he has done to help get this story out, and make those SOBs pay!!

I don't know why you keep missing the posts that point out that both Annett and the claims made in your OP are demonstrated frauds. Is that intentional?

If the First Nations people don't want anything to do with Annett, why do you persist in thinking that they should? They don't want to be associated with him because he's a fraud, a liar and a conman who does more damage to their cause every time he opens his mouth. Such as the time last year when he announced that the ITCCS was dissolving the nation of Canada.

If that's the kind of lunacy that you want to line up behind, feel free.

Oh, and he is not a Reverend, either, for that matter -- he was defrocked by the United Church of Canada for fraudulent behaviour, almost 20 years ago. Here are the details of the case against him: Formal Hearing Panel Decision.

I read through your links, but I didn't see anything where the First Nations people didn't want anything to do with Annett.

However, I did see this:

Briefly put, the Presbytery has argued that:

Rev. Annett's ministry at St. Andrew's pastoral charge has placed him under the oversight of Comox-Nanaimo Presbytery,
It was obliged in 1995 to place him under supervision, to require him to take a directed program for the improvement of his pastoral skills and to undergo a psychiatric and/or psychological examination and ultimately, late in 1995, to suspend him from performing the functions of an ordained minister, and While under oversight, he has demonstrated that he is unsuitable to continue in ordained ministry by virtue of one or more of the "failings" provided for under section 363 © of the Manual:

his (lack of) effectiveness as a member of the order of ministry,

his failure as a member of the order of ministry to maintain the peace and welfare of the church, or

his refusal to recognize the authority of Presbytery

It is well known the best way to discredit someone is to accuse them of being crazy and demand a "psychiatric and psychological examination". And I'm sure they wanted him to improve his pastoral skills, which means, 'Only teach what we tell you to teach, and keep your mouth shut when we say shut it'.
He wouldn't agree to this, so he was found "unsuitable" to continue in the ministry. PFFFFFT!

They wanted him to "maintain the peace and welfare of the church, and recognize their AUTHORITY", which he also refused to do because he saw the injustice that the church had done to these people, and he demanded justice!!

TKDRL
reply to post by Cynic

 

Turnabout is fair play eh? You haven't seen no "turnabout". Treaties have been ignored and abused for a long time with impunity, because at the time the government could keep their trespasses hush-hush, and they had the powerful arm of the RCMP to do their bidding. That is not the case anymore thanks to the internet. They can't keep it quiet, and the more the general public learns, the more they are disgusted with people like you.

Quite frankly, you will see no "turnabout", as we respect the land, even the land that "is not ours". We will not pollute your water or your land. We will not herd you like cattle into a pen. We will not rip your kids from you and send them to reeducation camps, starve and rape your children while they are there just because we can get away with it.

edit on Thu, 03 Apr 2014 15:27:26 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

I have to call B.S. on that one. You may respect the land but not the rights of others. By blockading and harassing people in their own homes (Caledonia), numerous blockades of the highways and railways and more recently Akwasasne - built in a floodplain ( you illogically refuse to move to higher ground) FN prove prior points.

Common sense dictates that the billions transferred annually to the FN should be used to further housing in the villages they live in yet they remain in squalor (again refer to Akwasasne) instead of building new community centers. These are left to deteriorate and no accountability for the funds is there. It seems as though the shoe is firmly on your own feet.

The ROC is honoring its commitments, perhaps FN should stop whining and grow up.

reply to post by gspat


It's not old news to me, and several others who have posted here.
The first time I heard of this was when I saw the article in my OP. I don't listen to the news much... too much negative input thrown into the brain in one swipe!!

Whether it is new, or old, I think it still needs to be made public for those, like me, who didn't know. We also have new members here that haven't read EVERYTHING on ATS.

reply to post by sled735

He seems to be the only person that had/has enough balls to go up against the PTB who were responsible for these notorious acts against the Aboriginal Natives.

No, he is not. Kevin Annett does more damage to the First Nations people than anything else.

Prime Minister Harper apologized for the Canadian government's role in the matter in 2008, and the investigation was begun in 1998. This scandal is not news to anyone who is actually involved.

Since you're not from Canada, you're apparently not aware that there is a Government Commission on the Matter. That Commission has nothing to do with Annett or his foolish ITCCS -- it actually has power and authority to make reparations, and has outreach programs, such as those described here: Indian Residential Schools.

Contrast that with Annett, who issues worthless "arrest warrants" for people like the Prime Minister of Canada or the Queen of England, who claims that there is a network of pedophile child murderers that includes people like Pope Benedict and the Duke of Windsor, and who tells followers (what few are left) that they should impound assets of the Catholic Church and Canadian Government, because both have been declared illegal by the ITCCS.

In other words, Kevin Annett is insane, and anyone who follows him is similarly delusional.

Yes, THEY, TPB, stripped him of his title, through him out of the church, caused him to loose everything, because he exposed their "dirty laundry", but he kept on fighting the fight, and is STILL fighting the fight to expose those evil doers!!!

The church fired him because he was a lousy pastor, with a documented history of taking advantage of vulnerable people, clear mental health issues, and who refused to take any action to address any of it. I posted the transcript of his UCC hearing, I'd suggest that you read it before making any more statements on the matter, since you obviously don't know the facts.

Watch that video that Murgatroid posted.

I wouldn't waste ten minutes of my time watching anything that Murgatroid posts, even if I did watch videos (I do not.) You may not know him, but he is a rabid anti-Catholic who posts outright fabrications, no matter how ludicrous, so long as they attack the church. Though he claims to be a Christian, he apparently believes that "thou shalt not bear false witness" applies to everyone but himself, something that he'll have to answer to God for one day.

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reply to post by adjensen

Prime Minister Harper apologized for the Canadian government's role in the matter in 2008, and the investigation was begun in 1998.

Well, I'm sure this makes it all better then. Kiss it and make it go away.

Yes, I read your link. I still stand behind him, and if that makes me crazy... so be it.

reply to post by sled735


Lots of people hate on him, Alex Jones, David Iche etc etc. While they may not be my favorite people, they are responsible for a large chunk of people that end up here. It was an AJ video posted to myspace back in the day that got me thinking and questioning. I started out researching a topic to prove the "raving lunatic" wrong, he turned out to be right. Hard to admit, not a huge AJ fan these days, but it was one of his videos that started it all for me. Credit where credit is due. Same for Kevin Annett, I can't count how many times people ended up in one of the groups I am in asking questions because of seeing his videos.

Its nothing new they have always done horrable things such as this ever since they gained power and I would love to see justice come of this but if this article truly can be proven true I fear it will never see the light of day.

reply to post by adjensen

I wouldn't waste ten minutes of my time watching anything that Murgatroid posts, even if I did watch videos (I do not.) You may not know him, but he is a rabid anti-Catholic who posts outright fabrications, no matter how ludicrous, so long as they attack the church. Though he claims to be a Christian, he apparently believes that "thou shalt not bear false witness" applies to everyone but himself, something that he'll have to answer to God for one day.

Murgatroid didn't make the video, he only posted it. What? You're afraid you might see a speck of truth from the other side of the coin?
That explains why you argue against Annett so strongly. The church seems to have you right where they want you. They have influenced your thoughts, (brainwashed) and made you (and thousands of others) a blind person following the blind, defending them in any case that comes up against them.

Money rules!!! Sad!

jashn20002000
Its nothing new they have always done horrable things such as this ever since they gained power and I would love to see justice come of this but if this article truly can be proven true I fear it will never see the light of day.

It already has seen the light of day...
www.bc.united-church.ca...

1. On February 25, 2013, a lawfully constituted Common Law Court of Justice found Elizabeth Windsor, Queen of England and Head of State of Canada and its churches, guilty as charged of Crimes against Humanity in Canada and of engaging in a Criminal Conspiracy to conceal Genocide. The same verdict found Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper guilty of the same offenses.

YEA!!!