Missing Malaysia Flight (MH370) Becomes Criminal Investigation

It is my understanding that these people were not working on stealth tech or anything of the sort. That work is done in Texas. These folks were executives that oversaw productivity management for their technology plants oversees.

sheepslayer247
It is my understanding that these people were not working on stealth tech or anything of the sort. That work is done in Texas. These folks were executives that oversaw productivity management for their technology plants oversees.

That's true, for the Power Architecture division (formerly PowerPC)

BobAthome
1. Motive
Stealth Thech.

"A new Chinese stealth fighter jet’s design includes details obtained in a Chinese cyber-spying operation conducted seven years ago against the F-35 Lightning II, according to a new report based on conversations with US military officials and contractors."


Does anyone seriously think that a bunch of Corp. Tech Specialists in Stealth,,,,,were going too be allowed too land in Bejing?


really?

Time everyone pulled there assset's out of there collective,, feel good, blame it on the pilot, bull#.

OK.

So we totally eliminate all MSM reports, and rely on our instincts?

I'm not saying I buy into any of said articles, presses, etc., BUT aren't they at least a source of debunking and deconstructing disinformation? So we can possibly eliminate any fraudulent data and move forward to the truth?

In response to your post, I have been following this story all too closely, and based on these questionable media accounts, the employees on board the flight are/were Quality Engineers, I.e., lean manufacturing specialists. This differs greatly from "Tech Specialists in Stealth" as you have posted.

Please debunk the gap between QEs in manufacturing versus Technical Specialists.

Thank you.

Peace,
Watches

reply to post by sheepslayer247


Yes, Freescale www.freescale.com...

They have 20 offices worldwide. And hold a good number of government defense contracts. Plus are known for their patents in advanced technology.

I found this bit of research and production they are doing, very interest.

Excerpt from link.
The unmanned vehicle market is forecasted to grow consistently in the next few years benefiting both civil and defense applications. Freescale's product portfolio is uniquely positioned to provide solutions in the following application areas: control, motion, vision, navigation and communication. With our rich experience in automotive electronics (including solutions in Chassis, Safety, Body Electronics and Powertrain domains), vast portfolio of products and our deep ecosystem of software and tools providers, look to Freescale when your design demands exceptional performance and efficiency.
Target Applications

Unmanned Aerial Vehicle
Unmanned Ground Vehicle
Unmanned Underwater Vehicle
Construction, demolition, inspection, or mining robot
Firefighting robot or rescue robot
www.freescale.com...

They were also named in the top 100 companies in innovation in the world.

This proprietary program recognizes the 100 most innovative companies in the world
according to a series of patent-related metrics that get to the essence of what it means to be truly innovative.
top100innovators.com...

You have to admit, they do bring some conspiracy related thoughts to the table...

Des

Plane goes missing....

... When the whole world forgets and begin to focus on the next big thing...

MH370 appears out of the blue, carrying a nuke.

Phones rang up to 3 days... Just saying.

reply to post by watchesfromwall

So all passengers are cleared, and the crew is the focus of the criminal investigation?

I pose a question for anyone reading this post to myself (thinking out loud, lol):

Does anyone know how the 2 supposed Iranians on the fake passports were identified?

Did the Thai travel agency finally provide more information about the two?

Was the elusive Mr. Ali finally found and questioned?

How do we know, for sure, that the two using the fake passports were Iranians?

Those are my immediate questions that I am confused about to date, ( well, beyond this whole cluster conundrum!) and if someone can provide links, explanations, etc. I would be grateful.

reply to post by watchesfromwall




Tuesday, May 19, 1998

"Allegations that Space Systems/Loral provided missile guidance technology to the Chinese are false. "


start here.

www.loral.com...

BobAthome
reply to post by watchesfromwall

 

Tuesday, May 19, 1998

"Allegations that Space Systems/Loral provided missile guidance technology to the Chinese are false. "


start here.

www.loral.com...

Star for an effort, but I've searched to no avail.

Further clues?

What does this have to do with Freescale?

The biggest problem that I have here is that we can't believe the media or internet as such. To have trust in what you read or hear is becoming a matter of letting your inner feelings (gut feeling) make a choice if something feels right or wrong.

The disinformation that is going on makes it so difficult to sif out the truth.

My gut feeling says, with all our technology that we have nowadays in the air and on the ground/water. I understand that it is a big ocean but "come on", its 2014.

I hope that this investigation will continue till we find together the real story behind this tragic "accident".

Peace and love for All

reply to post by Cydonia2012


Not to mention getting it out lol. He also said they were in some sort of faraday cage so nobody could phone home....but he could?

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet, but I haven't seen it really anywhere. There is much speculation as to whether the post to 4chan was actually from Phillip Wood or not. However, there has been a lot of people combing over the details and some of those details are just inaccurate. To clear these inaccuracies up:
Here is the original post

Now I am not sure if this is against the T&C for this site but I am going to post it anyway. Mostly because I have not seen any site talking about the actual source of the discussion.

Lastly, I would like to caution anybody actually going to the site; it's 4chan. Anybody can post any picture and any message so if you feel you may be offended just leave it alone.

For the rest of you interested in this I hope you can garner some additional information from it, not having to rely solely upon regurgitated mis-information. I don't know how long this page will remain, but as of now it is archived. I would also like to point out that 4chan mods don't just "delete" threads and this one was removed really, really quickly.

Good luck!

EDIT: words! words from nowhere!

reply to post by rockn82


There's an ATS thread on that in the HOAX bin:

[HOAX]: Hijacked Flight 370 PASSENGER SENT PHOTO FROM HIDDEN IPHONE
Feel free to post about it in that thread, since ATS allows discussion of hoaxes in the hoax forum, but posting hoaxes outside the hoax forum is not consistent with ATS policy. 4chan doesn't really seem to care if you post a hoax or not, especially in certain forums there where lots of hoaxes get posted.

Back to the topic of this thread, I was reading about the Air France jet that crashed in the Pacific and apparently in France, it's standard procedure to open a criminal investigation after every single aircraft crash. It doesn't automatically imply anybody is guilty of a criminal act, but I guess they do it that way just in case a criminal act eventually determined to be involved. At first I was surprised by that, but after thinking about it I suppose it makes some sense, though I wonder how it makes the French pilots feel, even if they know they did nothing wrong.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


I understand, however, I keep coming across comments like one previously found in this thread. A member was talking about whether or not you can post quotes with an iPhone, when the original post contains no quotes what-so-ever. I don't want to talk about the page or create anymore thread drift, I just wanted to post it as a resource to those who are talking about it without ever having seen it.

That being said, in the thread you linked there is talk of the "post" however again there are no links back to the original post that was created by "Phillip". While I agree that it's 99% a hoax, other people out there are reading sites, regurgitating the information from them, all the while never having seen the source in the first place.

The best way to "deny ignorance" is to inform.

reply to post by rockn82


Sorry but i have to toss my 2 coppers in.
I did say that the iphone theory was labeled a hoax but like i said it before it was labeled that literaly right off the bat. In the theory, lets say that was the real story, how would this country be looked at? Criminal like they are but with the wrong country.... How many Chinese were on that plane? Alot.... Obviously US cant let China know about this if this was the case for that would make the poop hit the fan severly.....
IMO this could be very real. Lets be honest here gang, is this the first time 1 or a group of people have vanished with no explanation but just theories? Would this be the first time the USA or any other countries higher powers have exicute something like this to so called protect national interest or w/e weak excuse they want to use? I think not......

This airplane mystery just depends with new information that Israel purchase a Malaysian airline 777 last year. Is it a coincidence? or something bigger to the mystery.

here is a link
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by takers888


Too bad that information is wrong. Israel is the storage area for a lot of planes. The 777 in question was bought from Malaysia by GA Telesis, a Florida based company, who will probably end up tearing it apart and selling the parts on the aftermarket.

The aircraft was not bought by Israel, and if you look in the same area you will see planes from Alitalia, KLM, Air France, ANA, and many others.

Having not followed this story until recently, I decided to see what the official version said regarding the flight and plane.

Relatives of the passengers have stated that they tried ringing cell phones, and heard the ring tone, but received no answer. Cell phones on the ground could not have communicated to cell phones on the plane. Out in the ocean there are no cell phone masts or relay stations. The plane itself did not have a cell phone base station for inflight cell phone contact. Relatives on the ground may have tried to call relatives on the plane, but the signals would never have reached the plane, the ringing tone heard would have been made by relay stations on the ground.

For me, as things stand, the real interesting focus is the pilot and co-pilot, but more the pilot captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah as he was having serious personal problems, having recently separated from his wife (she had left him), and he had been convicted of sodomy. So, he was having severe psychological problems, as the separation from his wife had hit him hard.

The co-pilot should not be of prime concern as his last message occurred just after the ACARS system was shut off. He knew nothing of anything being out of the ordinary at that point. However, it is possible that once Shah had made his mind up what he intended to do, and began to fully execute his plan, he and the co-pilot fought in the cockpit, the older man winning the battle, probably by severely disabling or killing his co-pilot. Apparently, the radar data showed the plane to have descended and ascended altitude a couple times. Seeing as there was no distress communications, something must have been occurring in the cockpit?

Once he had full control of the plane, Shah flew a random non-intentional flight path for a number of hours, possibly on auto-pilot, but having disabled all communication systems. I just think he reprogrammed the flight path randomly out into the Indian ocean and sat there until the fuel ran out, or so low that the plane would not have made land in any direction?

All this is speculation, of course. If Shah wanted to kill himself I don't understand why he didn't do so while on land? To kill 238 other people along with yourself is to make a statement about something. This wasn't a 'terror' attack, it was more akin to a gun rampage, except he used the closed confines of a plane to do his damage. The radar data definitely indicates purposeful intent regarding the turning off of communication systems, and the continued flight for several hours more. I doubt the two pilots were in collusion as they were both assigned to the flight separately and without request to each other, so in order for the plane to be diverted off its original flight path, one of the pilots had to over come the other to make it happen.

So, in my view, there are only two possible reasons why the flight has disappeared the way it has, and they are, deliberate human action, or mechanical or systems failure. Data does not indicate mechanical or systems failure. If Shah did destroy the plane as a means to end his own life, and the incidental lives of his fellow crew and passengers, the Malay government and airline will not admit to one of their pilots becoming so psychologically and emotionally disturbed that he deliberately crashed the plane he was piloting to end his own life, and that of 238 others. To do so would be to allow severe consequences against both the Malay government and airline, and possibly other airlines around the world.

reply to post by Zaphod58


I find it suspicious that out of all the places in the world, there is another twin Malaysian Airline 777 in a hanger somewhere in Israel. This just add more to the conspiracy theories going around the internet. Apparently the majority shareholder of GA Telesis is George Sorros and everyone know who he is. There is more to this mystery than what we been told by the media and governments, but until the plane is found all we can do is speculate.

reply to post by takers888


It's not a twin anymore, and it's sitting in the open for people to see. It still has the stripe on the side, but the logo and name were removed. If that's a twin, then every 777-200 in the world is its twin.

If you're going to get suspicious, then you are going to be suspicious a lot, because there are a LOT of planes in storage, including a few Malaysia planes.

bottleslingguy
reply to post by Cydonia2012

 

Not to mention getting it out lol. He also said they were in some sort of faraday cage so nobody could phone home....but he could?

Most reinforced concrete buildings have a steel mesh all the way through the concrete.

We were talking to a pilot friend today, and he says that the reason why the Malaysians are being so secretive about the transcript of the communication between the control tower and the pilots is because "both pilots are supposed to confirm everything is normal, not just one pilot".