Ghost hunters to investigate: Gilford store raw surveillance video

CallmeRaskolnikov
reply to post by Vasa Croe

 

i would say that if this clerk has had previous experiences in the store than it gives her or whoever perfect reason to go through the footage and pull the event for further review. I do think it's more far fetched for whoever to plan some elaborate prank and submit the footage to be scrutinized only for it to come out later that is indeed faked. that would have the opposite effect on the store.

There is nothing in the linked story that suggests any previous experiences though I may have missed where someone at the store had prior reported experiences.

And this is far from an elaborate prank. Would be quite easy to pull off as others have suggested multiple ways for it to happen that would all be cheap or free and not require anything elaborate at all.

Again, you seem to think that "a ghost did it" is more of a real possibility than they hoax'd it for publicity....with there having never been any solid evidence of ghosts existing, please explain how this is a more logical explanation than the store owner hoaxing for marketing purposes.

reply to post by Vasa Croe

There is nothing in the linked story that suggests any previous experiences though I may have missed where someone at the store had prior reported experiences.

Yes, there is. Watch the news clip. The owner was interviewed (the clerk lady in the pink sweater is not the owner, she's an employee).
He said there had been regular weirdness over the years, and the building is very old.

reply to post by BuzzyWigs


I'll be interested in seeing what the Ghost Hunters crew have to say. Do you know when this will air?

Thanks for letting us know. S&F

If you watch the video and don't look at the glass jar when it's breaking but look to the left of the counter, there is a shadow...and it moves back to the soda cooler in the background. Anyone else see it? I had to watch it twice to catch it.

reply to post by sled735


That was my thought as well.

That was interesting video footage. I have not read the entire thread, but saw the video, and although something like this could be hoaxed, if it is a ghost, it will be cool to see what kind of things get uncovered.

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but right before the jar starts to move, the lights flicker brighter and dimmer, like a surge in electromagnetic energy is present. This is pretty common in genuine paranormal events..

The jar seems to spin a bit on it's way off the edge too.. Not something easily done by trickery. Maybe not possible by trickery at all.
The Ghost Hunters team would have looked at this video very carefully and would not waste time if they thought it was hoaxed..
Just because it could have been hoaxed doesn't mean it was. Plus there are a lot of other details that a hoaxer would have to know to make it more convincing, and it is not likely that store people are experts in the field of hoaxing paranormal events.

I noticed the lights in the cooler fluctuating but wondered if maybe the clerk was checking/adjusting stock from the back. The other lights appears to be cars pulling into the parking lot since customers enter the store shortly after. The other thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned is that the glass appears to actually flip over before rolling off the counter. Compressed air is ruled out in my mind because nothing else on the counter moves. Very interesting video. Thanks for the post OP.

OveRcuRrEnteD
Compressed air is ruled out in my mind because nothing else on the counter moves.

Actually those vortex guns are pretty accurate and have good range.

High power and a small tube, could work maybe.

reply to post by Biigs

yea, maybe is right. I think it would definitely have to be a custom made vortex gun. We have one of those 'pull and release' style plastic guns. I've gotten pretty good at blowing someones hair up at 20 feet.

reply to post by sled735

Do you know when this will air?

I have no idea.

And even if they do investigate, it doesn't mean it will air. Unfortunately.

I hope they do find something, though!!

Glad you're enjoying the story.

alienreality
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but right before the jar starts to move, the lights flicker brighter and dimmer, like a surge in electromagnetic energy is present. This is pretty common in genuine paranormal events..

The jar seems to spin a bit on it's way off the edge too.. Not something easily done by trickery. Maybe not possible by trickery at all.
The Ghost Hunters team would have looked at this video very carefully and would not waste time if they thought it was hoaxed..
Just because it could have been hoaxed doesn't mean it was. Plus there are a lot of other details that a hoaxer would have to know to make it more convincing, and it is not likely that store people are experts in the field of hoaxing paranormal events.

edit on 25-3-2014 by alienreality because: (no reason given)

thank you! my sentiments exactly! i completely agree and think you're on the right track here. just because it could be possible to hoax this video doesn't make it so. this isn't some attempt at viral marketing by a small county store. this is a paranormal event that was captured on video and the store owner or employee wants some answers because this wasn't the first such event that happened in the store as reported by one of the employees.

i'm looking forward to what comes of this. wouldn't be surprised if that building had some sorted history to it and they were able tie in a real life traumatic event or death to the property. i would love to go there personally and see if i picked up on anything.

reply to post by CallmeRaskolnikov

i would love to go there personally and see if i picked up on anything.

That is always a fun thing to do and if you ever get the chance. Do it!

I went to The Palmer House in Sauk Centre MN this last fall, and plan on returning in May again.
They were covered on Paranormal Witness?? (whatever show has the kid Zack) and I had a great time!

Even got some pictures
(although no one accepts orbs anymore, but I KNOW what we caught because we followed it and even got an EVP about a hole I was checking out in the basement of this place within a minute or two of the picture and several others we all got)

Before we went I was really wondering what if anything I personally would pick up on and from the experience, and I was glad I went. It was totally different from what I am used to, as any spirit contact I have had over the years has been my own doing or encounters with past on friends etc, but to in a place where the spirits are already in place, it was neat.

There, they seemed to have a job and a working relationship with the owner of the building. At least that is what I walked away from the place thinking in my minds eye.

Headed back there in May.

I just noticed there was another thread opened on this story (it's been closed), but in case any of the members who posted on that thread are reading this one:

The video in the OP here shows the clerk's reaction. She, the lady in pink, is NOT the owner.

No, it was not closing time.

Yes, she was surprised and even mentioned it to the two customers who came in afterward.

Try watching the videos in this thread, you might get the answers you're lacking now.

BWigs

Cool video. Lucky catch if not a "trick." I've found "ghostly" things are usually heard and to a lesser extent seen and the physical movement of objects is rather rare... actually seeing the movement is rarer still.

That said, I walked into a drug store and had a bottle of alcohol "jump" off the shelf, hover-hesitate a bare moment and then arc across and down the aisle.

I was dumbstruck and immediately searched for the string... and found no explanation after careful examination.

I was looking right at it when it happened which made me wonder if it was some "spirit" or some psi-power of my own... but I'd guess something else was there playing with my head.

I've had plenty of weird stuff happen... in fact I saw a stone appear in mid air and arc into my chest one night and was with another person who saw it as well ... and the ensuing shower of pebbles that followed us out of the area... fast.

So I know this stuff happens ...and that's not counting the other stuff I wasn't sure of, but suspect it was paranormal... which is sort of a misnomer since I also believe these phenomena will be fully explained in time as our collective knowledge grows.

reply to post by Baddogma

I've had plenty of weird stuff happen... in fact I saw a stone appear in mid air and arc into my chest one night and was with another person who saw it as well ... and the ensuing shower of pebbles that followed us out of the area... fast.

Wow!

Yes, I think I'd skedaddle as well....

on the other hand, when something peculiar happens, I usually go to where it's happening and check it out.
(when the music starts, get out of the water...amirite?)

Once my roommate had to point a carbine out the window to stop someone from attacking me .....

OH! Edit: can you tell us more about that story of the rock midair and pebbles?
I have shivers now, and arm-hairs on end.

reply to post by BuzzyWigs


Yeah, sure... I've posted it before but sifting through posts would take as long as writing it again... so...

I was about 16 in the 80's in a park in Tucson, AZ that was formerly an old cavalry fort... Fort Lowell, actually. It was after hours and myself and a friend were there to engage in slightly nefarious activities away from parents and prying eyes.

We independently noticed we were being pelted with small rocks... each of us thinking the other was goofing off and doing it. Once my friend said "cut it out" and I replied, "stop being a ****... you're doing it!" we both saw a rock appear in the dim light at chest level and arc onto my jacket and fall to the ground.

With that all heck broke loose and we were pelted with hundreds of them and we sprinted out of there, thoroughly unnerved.

ETA and it was in winter months with no foliage to hide behind and enough outdoor lighting to give us a clear view of our surroundings for at least a hundred yards.

Later I was reading about "stone throwing ghosts" and saw that Ft. Lowell park had a ghost of a dead cavalry soldier who had been seen for years and was known to throw rocks and pebbles at people... in fact, around 100 years ago a posse had gone to the then newly derelict fort to track down the stone thrower, not believing people who said it was a ghost... and they were chased off by the specter.

There was some scandal where he was falsely accused, if shaky memory serves, and he was killed in a duel (ETA or executed for something he didn't do)...I think. Either way he was sure upset (assuming the ghost theory is correct) and another thing of interest is that he gradually got harder to see as the years progressed, from looking like a solid, living person and then as a slightly translucent figure, to a grey image and when I had my run in, I couldn't see anything but the rocks.

The bowl looks very light. It is sitting slightly tilted on an unstable surface, probably a folded newspaper, perhaps on top of a pen or pencil. You can see it shift to the right and slide down, then starts to wobble as it moves across the glass top. I think that it was unstable to begin with, and some minor vibration caused it to pivot onto the glass, where it wobbled off to the edge and over. The flash of light could have been the reflection of a large vehicle going by in the street, which could be the source of the vibration that started it all.

It's a more likely scenario than paranormal.

reply to post by BuzzyWigs


I find the footage interesting because I personally saw something rather similar. When I was in Jr. High, I was sitting in the hallway in our house, petting the cat. I could see the other people in the house, clearly. My mom and little brother were in the living room, and my sister was reading at the table in the kitchen. No one else was there. All doors and windows were closed. I glanced into the kitchen, and saw a Coke bottle - one of those old glass ones, the big 2qt. or whatever size - that was on the counter, about a foot from the edge, literally fly off the counter, hold a moment, then smash all over the floor. These bottles were pretty heavy, so no draft, even if there had been one, could have moved it. My sister had both hands on her book, and literally jumped a good foot off the chair in surprise. I can't explain how it happened, but I can believe that it could happen elsewhere. What I saw looked a lot like what we see in the video.

If nothing else it's good publicity for the store...
Me, cynical? Whatever gave you that idea?

charlyv
The bowl looks very light. It is sitting slightly tilted on an unstable surface, probably a folded newspaper, perhaps on top of a pen or pencil. You can see it shift to the right and slide down, then starts to wobble as it moves across the glass top. I think that it was unstable to begin with, and some minor vibration caused it to pivot onto the glass, where it wobbled off to the edge and over. The flash of light could have been the reflection of a large vehicle going by in the street, which could be the source of the vibration that started it all.

It's a more likely scenario than paranormal.

"the bowl is light"

"the bowl is on an unstable surface"

"it's probably on a folder newspaper"

"that probably folder newspaper is probably on a pencil or pen"???

a large vehicle could have passed by causing a vibration leading to the thing falling... ( a vibration which would have to be so powerful as to vibrate through the street, the sidewalk, the building and the counter...c'mon with that vibration stuff)


SOOOO many assumptions there. paranormal things happen everyday. though it's not everyday that they are captured on film. it's alright if you dont believe in ghosts. but, to me all of those things are far more of a stretch.