Ghost hunters to investigate: Gilford store raw surveillance video

Ghost hunters to investigate Gilford store surveillance video
Raw Video: Ghost at Gilford store?
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This is a security cam vid in broad daylight, and very clear. The cam covers the cash register and countertop. The staffer walks into the next room, alone in the shop (or at least alone in the cam-view).

There's a glass jar of some kind sitting among a newspaper and some other containers. After the staffer walks away, the glass thing simply slides diagonally across the corner and off of the edge, and smashes on the floor behind it. NO ONE WAS THERE.... no wind, no open window (it can't open).

Not sure how to embed the video, it's not a youtube, so please click the link to watch it, and also the news clip which is linked in the body of the article..
(Or, a mod or techy might know how to embed it?)

What do you think?

THIS ONE is very interesting indeed!! VERY clear, and not in the dark.

reply to post by BuzzyWigs


This is another vid that the new coding to bring out "hidden" information in videos can be used for. Probably a set-up trick though, strings or a spring-loaded platform with either a timer or an off-camera operator. Although once I actually saw a crucifix leap off a wall (with my mom), but that could have been my mom, with strings or a spring-loaded platform, with either a timer or....

reply to post by Aleister


The store owner says the building is very, very old, and they've had weirdness in other ways...
I'd think a string would be visible when the clerk comes back in to see what happened...

Also, the window was closed. Owner naturally says it was totally genuine, not staged or a clever stunt.

BuzzyWigs
reply to post by Aleister

 

The store owner says the building is very, very old, and they've had weirdness in other ways...
I'd think a string would be visible when the clerk comes back in to see what happened...

Also, the window was closed. Owner naturally says it was totally genuine, not staged or a clever stunt.

I could think of a few ways to fake it, compressed air off screen for one, It would take little effort to do.

So the question is, does the owner of the building have reason to want free advertising and media coverage...

Hmmmm.

It's way too easy to use fishing line to make items "fly off a shelf" from a distance. I'd only accept that as paranormal if I was the only one in the room when it happened and I was able to inspect the item/shelf afterward.

benrl



So the question is, does the owner of the building have reason to want free advertising and media coverage...

Hmmmm.

This is almost always the case. It's an easy way to drum up business.

reply to post by benrl

I could think of a few ways to fake it, compressed air off screen for one, It would take little effort to do.

It would have to be a very specific stream of compressed air, and the other objects on the counter didn't move at all.

It seems to me the clerk was pretty rattled. But that's a better idea than string or spring-loaded.

After my dad died, my mum heard something crash in the basement near his workbench in the storage room. She went down to see what it was, and a hefty, very stable object had come crashing from a top shelf (maybe it was a turntable or something? I'll have to ask her again).....but there was NO string or windows or compressed air or earthquake or cat or other person in the house.

Well, I just went back to view the raw footage again, and the vids swapped places...
here's a separate link to the raw footage, with no news-heads or commentary - just the surveillance tape.

Raw Video: Ghost at Gilford store?

BuzzyWigs
reply to post by benrl

 

I could think of a few ways to fake it, compressed air off screen for one, It would take little effort to do.

It would have to be a very specific stream of compressed air, and the other objects on the counter didn't move at all.

It seems to me the clerk was pretty rattled. But that's a better idea than string or spring-loaded.

After my dad died, my mum heard something crash in the basement near his workbench in the storage room. She went down to see what it was, and a hefty, very stable object had come crashing from a top shelf (maybe it was a turntable or something? I'll have to ask her again).....but there was NO string or windows or compressed air or earthquake or cat or other person in the house.

I am not saying its not something weird, I am saying its just as likely, if NOT MORE so that its a hoax to drum up business.

I am not saying I do not believe in the Supernatural, just that more often than not other motives are at play, and a skeptics eye is what is always needed to guard yourself from charlatans.

I am not someone who only believes in a material universe, just that look there first before seeking the supernatural.

reply to post by benrl

I am not saying its not something weird, I am saying its just as likely, if NOT MORE so that its a hoax to drum up business.

Okay, I didn't think you were saying that...
obviously we need to look at the most likely, then the various possible ways this might have happened.

The little bit the owner said indicated this wasn't exactly an unusual or surprising or isolated kind of event.

Although I'm surprised their inviting Ghost Hunters, who from all the shows I've seen have NEVER found anything.

I'm a believer as well, btw.

Could have used fishing line wrapped around the under side of the table rather than simply be pull from the same side.

It looks like glass cake stand or crystal. My Wife has one and they are really heavy. So i'm not sure a blast of compressed air or a string could push or pull that thing over.

BuzzyWigs

Okay, I didn't think you were saying that...
obviously we need to look at the most likely, then the various possible ways this might have happened.

Watched it again, and, well I have another possible theory as well.

I wonder if they have any kind of sensormatics (theft alarms for products), its a retail buisness.

Often times depending on the type, involve magnets moving, Thats the register counter there.

Under the right conditions, it could cause movement of an item with metal on it, or a magnet of some kind, if the magnitizer cyled (some have spinning magnets) it could of caused that type of erratic motion on a very light item with some metal.

ETA:

I realize that would contradict the employee story of the weight of the item, again just postulating scenarios based on the video, and if they are being deceptive in some way.

ETA, Watching again, the register system there looks pretty advanced, so Im thinking more and more likely theres a sensor matic device in that counter, it could of cycled.

Hell the vibration from it doing its thing could of caused it too,

Go to a major electronics retailer, they most likely have one, you know that pad they put your stuff on that makes a click or sound when something is placed on it?

That could be the cause.

reply to post by BuzzyWigs


The video pretty much had the attitude, "The window doesn't open, so that rules out hoax". No it doesnt. Two pulleys and a string could have caused this. When the store owner went off camera, she could have really been going to pull the string.

This would be great for her business.

reply to post by smithjustinb


That's from the news clip, but did you watch the raw video? Fishing line was what occurred to me at first.

BuzzyWigs
reply to post by Aleister

 

The store owner says the building is very, very old, and they've had weirdness in other ways...
I'd think a string would be visible when the clerk comes back in to see what happened...

Unless the clerk was the one who pulled the string!

Also, the window was closed. Owner naturally says it was totally genuine, not staged or a clever stunt.

You are too trusting.

reply to post by smithjustinb

You are too trusting.

Yep! I absolutely am. It's gotten me in way too deep on a few occasions -
how could you know that already when it took me decades to figure it out??
Spooky.

BuzzyWigs
reply to post by smithjustinb

 

That's from the news clip, but did you watch the raw video? Fishing line was what occurred to me at first.

That's why that new video code which brings out unseen information could be used in these type of claims. It would see a fishing line if one is in there, and would show the subtle movements which might be seen as it begins its journey, and where the force was coming from which propelled it. Then again, if it were really a paranormal event, it would show a clean lift-off with no subtle jerky motions at the start.

If you watch the raw video closely you will see that there is a flash right before the glass starts to move and hits the floor. It is almost as if the room momentarily lightened and then the thing crashed.

reply to post by Aleister


Well, I know we have some very adept techies on this site who can do manipulation of stuff...
hopefully one will stop by soon and help us.