Texan Women To Busy For Equal Pay!

reply to post by thisguyrighthere

By talking about it we got our money and that manager got fired.

Sweet. But I'll bet that the manager did not get fired for discriminatory practice based on age, but rather for not keeping the clamps on you workers discussing your salaries hence exacerbating workplace tensions based on unfair policy brought on by management in the first place.

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Ah, so only certain jobs can be brought up then?

Men and Women are not created equal, the last time I checked I can't have a baby.

thesaneone
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Ah, so only certain jobs can be brought up then?

Men and Women are not created equal, the last time I checked I can't have a baby.

Being created equal has nothing do do with equal work equal pay.

amazing
The truth is that women work every bit as hard as men. They deserve equal pay. If there is a situation where a woman can't do the job, she can't lift as heavy as a load or something of that nature then, that's a different issue. But that would be the same thing as small man not being able to do the same job as a larger man.

I laugh when I see the comments of the men on this thread whining about women. LOL The last couple of jobs that I've had in offices working with women...I have to say that the women, did work harder than the men. I also didn't see any of the women, really causing any more drama. Not enough to effect our work.

This is just men complaining because they have a biblical sense that Women should serve men. Shame on you guys. Let's grow up, get in the present and deny ignorance.

The point is, they do get equal pay and this myth is propagated based on the aggregate average which, I have said earlier, is influenced by other things. This myth is propagated for political reasons.

reply to post by amazing

Women are equal to men in all other jobs for example

Ok.

police officers

I and im sure some others, fear female cops less than males. Wonder why.

What are the chances a female cop againt a large crminal? compared to a man?

auto mechanics-truck drivers

Sure, i see no problem.

heavy machine operators

Depends.

electricians-plumbers-martial arts instructors-security guards-HVAC Mechanics-Diesel Mechanics-Lawyers-Teachers-Managers-Pilots-Trainers-Hunters-..

Not exactly. I would rather have male security guards, we do have some female security guards at my work place, they look as i can easy subdue them, even if they are trained(whatever the avg security trains). I would like male firefighters as well(avg man can lift a women, avg women cant lift a man, that is a fact).


The whole equal crap is really pathetic, men and women are not equal and will never be, some jobs men will be better and some women will be better.

Its women fault for thinking their job is inferior thus "want to be like men"

good luck.

reply to post by ~Lucidity

Being created equal has nothing do do with equal work equal pay.

The problem i see is not equal pay for equal work.

Its "i want equal pay because im a female, tho i will only do what my body is capable of, BUT I DO WANT EQUAL PAY"


That does not work well, at least in our current PC world it gets a pass.

luciddream


The problem i see is not equal pay for equal work.

Its "i want equal pay because im a female, tho i will only do what my body is capable of, BUT I DO WANT EQUAL PAY"

And that is the bottom line.

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Doesnt really matter why he was fired. The point is if employees don't play their game of secrets they can't get away with unequal treatment.

Keeping secrets is what allows abuses to continue like a molesters relationship with a child.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


So I should pay all employees, in a given position, the same, regardless of skill?

That's a real fast way to go out of business.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


The entire notion of a gender based "wage gap" is simply a myth put forth by feminist groups and leftists.

Pay no attention to either of those fools.

peck420
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So I should pay all employees, in a given position, the same, regardless of skill?

That's a real fast way to go out of business.

Of course not. What does that have to do with anything?

thisguyrighthere
Of course not. What does that have to do with anything?

That is why most employers don't like employees discussing wages.

peck420

thisguyrighthere
Of course not. What does that have to do with anything?

That is why most employers don't like employees discussing wages.

You don't want your bad employee to know he's bad? You don't want him to know that a performance based pay increase is a possibility?

Sounds like #ty management to me.

thisguyrighthere
reply to post by TerryMcGuire

 

Doesnt really matter why he was fired. The point is if employees don't play their game of secrets they can't get away with unequal treatment.

Keeping secrets is what allows abuses to continue like a molesters relationship with a child.

I agree. "Keeping secrets is what allows the abuse to continue." In this vein, I wholeheartedly support anyone who speaks up in defense of women who are abused salarywise just because of their gender.

thisguyrighthere
You don't want your bad employee to know he's bad? You don't want him to know that a performance based pay increase is a possibility?

Sounds like #ty management to me.

You sound like an employee I desperately want my competition to have.

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I just fail to see how keeping a bad employee on the staff benefits you. Is there some magic ratio where the employee can be only so bad but not terrible to justify the budget wage?

Kind of like getting a hamburger than fell on the floor for a dollar less.

luciddream
reply to post by ~Lucidity

 

Being created equal has nothing do do with equal work equal pay.

The problem i see is not equal pay for equal work.

Its "i want equal pay because im a female, tho i will only do what my body is capable of, BUT I DO WANT EQUAL PAY"


That does not work well, at least in our current PC world it gets a pass.

What a twisting of words. And you're right, your words don't work out well...in fact, you're not even making any sense here. Please try again.

I've never seen any firsthand evidence of women being paid less than their male counterparts in normal peon jobs, so naturally, I've always wondered if this is a BS sympathy tug spawned from the hyper-competitive upper echelon jobs of the CFO, CEO, etc variety. My mom's always been an hourly wage worker, and while it's no office salary, she still pulls more per hour, even today, than her male coworkers. Why? Seniority. She's been at her job for far longer than the rest of the employees, knows the business inside & out, and is highly productive. For comparison, my dad had an upper middle class salary one point in his career, but because he was new to that specific company, he was paid less than his male AND female coworkers. The pay scale was based on experience and working knowledge, those that had none and had to learn as they went were paid less. Like him. Hell, even I was paid more in the hospitality industry than our business' plumber was (to be fair, he let himself get screwed on his fee)

Are there people out there who are getting screwed out of fair wages because of what dangles or doesn't? Absolutely, there's plenty of a-hole employers willing to use any excuse possible to stiff workers. Do I think it's as rampant as we're lead to believe? No. I do not. Outside of highly competitive, high wage sectors, I don't believe this to be a statistical norm.

peck420

thisguyrighthere
Of course not. What does that have to do with anything?

That is why most employers don't like employees discussing wages.

As an employer, I don't like them discussing wages because they can then "triangulate" specific pay rates. My duty is to protect that information as a matter of employee privacy.

Beyond that, it shouldn't matter. The only people that the above apply to in my shop are managers, as they need to know (on the big picture) what labor costs are. What they don't need to know is what another manager makes (unless that other manager wants to tell them...which may mean that a third manager in that department now has their payrate as public knowledge).

If you work in a "right to work" state, and you dislike unionized employees, let them talk about their payrate amongst themselves. You should be proud of how you compensate your employees, and should want to hide it.

Elton
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I work in healthcare and they do not advertise a job as paying a certain amount, they advertise a range... We pay techs $16.00 to $26.00 per hour to do the same job depending on experience and who hired you. I feel bad for the folks on the lower end of the scale as they will never make up the gap by yearly raises (3% max).

What about performance raises? Doesn't anyone get performance raises anymore?