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The Cold War Never Ended And Russia Is About To Win!

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posted on Nov, 26 2004 @ 12:30 PM
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Ok I just found the original article about the Soviet Defector in 1983 what he told to the CIA.

Here it is ... Either he is the new Nostradamus or he was in on it!


by Ion Mihai Pacepa, Romanian intelligence


History always repeats itself, and if you can live two lives, you have an even greater chance of seeing that repetition with your own eyes. During the last six years of my other life, as a Romanian intelligence general, the main task of the Soviet bloc espionage community was to transform Yasser Arafat�s war against Israel and its main supporter, the United States, into an armed doctrine of the whole Islamic world. America was our main enemy, and a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on it than could a mere one million. Islamic anti-Semitism ran deep. Our task was to convert its historical hatred of the Jews into a new hatred of the United States, by portraying this land of freedom as an �imperial Zionist country� financed by Jewish money and run by a rapacious �Council of the Elders of Zion,� the Kremlin�s epithet for the US Congress.

According to KGB theorists, the Islamic world was a petri dish in which we could nurture a virulent strain of America-hate. Islamic cultures had a taste for nationalism, jingoism and victimology. Their illiterate, oppressed mobs could be whipped up to a fever pitch. Terrorism and violence against America would flow naturally from their religious fervor. We had only to keep repeating, over and over, that the United States was a �Zionist country� bankrolled by rich Jews. Islam was obsessed with preventing the infidel�s occupation of its territory, and it would be highly receptive to our dogma that American imperialism wanted to transform the rest of the world into a Jewish fiefdom.



And here is another one...

Program Notes:

Since the tragedy of 9/11 we know that America faces a grave threat. We know about bin Laden and al Qaeda. We know about the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. What is not understood is that we face a much bigger enemy. A more dangerous enemy, unsuspected by most of our leaders and the experts who advise them.

Who is this enemy?

In 1984 a book was published with the title New Lies for Old. It was written by Soviet KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn. The book claimed that the Soviet Union had a secret long-term strategy to disarm and defeat the United States through a controlled collapse of the Soviet empire that would take place in the last decade of the twentieth century. In the book's most remarkable chapter, titled "The Final Phase," Golitsyn accurately described the future of the Soviet bloc. Communism would give up its monopoly of power in Russia, he explained, as apparent freedom and democracy would be introduced. The communist Warsaw Pact alliance would be dissolved. The Berlin Wall might be taken down and Germany united as "the key to progress toward a neutral, socialist Europe."

Controlled democratization and liberalization would be facilitated by communist agents within the dissident movements of Eastern Europe. As Golitsyn wrote, "the liberalization would be calculated and deceptive in that it would be introduced from above. It would be carried out by the party through its cells and individual members in government, the Supreme Soviet, the courts, and the electoral machinery and by the KGB through its agents among the intellectuals and scientists." (p. 339-340.)

Golitsyn's book has been dismissed as nonsense by CIA experts, pundits and journalists. "Yet of Golitsyn's falsifiable predictions, 139 out of 148 were fulfilled by the end of 1993 -- an accuracy rate of nearly 94 percent," according to Mark Riebling's history of the FBI and CIA titled Wedge.

The correctness of Golitsyn's predictions have also been shown by researchers and journalists reporting on events in Eastern Europe. These include the stunning revelations of Andrei Codrescu about the 1989 Romanian Revolution, in his book The Hole in the Flag, as well as revelations by Polish author Darius Rohnka in his book Fatalna Fikcja ("The Fatal Fiction") and the works of Czech activist Petr Cibulka.

We also have the personal analysis of two GRU defectors. The famous spy and author, Viktor Rezun (a.k.a. Viktor Suvorov), told Christopher Story of Soviet Analyst that the collapse of the Soviet Union was undoubtedly a deception. When asked how Western intelligence could fail to see this deception, Rezun answered, "Because they are stupid." At the same time, GRU defector Stanislav Lunev has also suggested that the collapse of the Soviet Union must have been part of a strategic plan, although he says the plan went awry and led to the unintended derailment of Marxism-Leninism in the former bloc countries. However, he admits, this is no obstacle to Kremlin strategy, since Moscow's communist era objectives remain unchanged with KGB officer Vladimir Putin at the helm.

Evidence of a long range Soviet strategy of controlled democratization and fake collapse for the purpose of disarming the West also appears in the writings of the high level Czech defector Jan Sejna. In his 1982 book, We Will Bury You, Sejna wrote of a plan to �convince the Capitalist countries that they had no need of military alliances.� He added that, �To this end we envisaged that it might be necessary to dissolve the Warsaw Pact, in which event we had already prepared a web of bilateral defence arrangements, to be supervised by secret committees of Comecon.�

The evidence for strategic deception is rich and verifiable. It is not material invented by kooks, but solidly based in reality. Americans do not realize the extent to which the Chechen wars were Kremlin-inspired provocations, openly alluded to by Russia�s ranking Chechen official, Mufti Kadyrov. They do not realize the suspicious backgrounds of leading Chechen Muslims, or the fact that al Qaeda�s Number Two man spent several months in Russia only to be released under mysterious circumstances. Could it be a coincidence that terrorism expert Yossef Bodansky alleges that bin Laden�s acquired nuclear weapons via Chechnya, from Russian sources?

The pieces of the puzzle are in front of our eyes. But Americans will not believe their eyes. No matter how carefully the evidence is laid out, the public and American officials reject the idea of an ongoing Soviet deception strategy to bring America to its knees.

A few months before the attack on the World Trade Center, Fidel Castro visited Iran. He said that working together, they could bring down the United States. It is significant that Russia and China are now allied, and engage in regular joint military exercises. It is significant that communist dictators are emerging in Venezuela, Ecuador and Brazil. It is also significant that Europe is slipping into �socialist neutrality.�

The danger is very great. But Americans will not believe in this danger because we feel superior. We feel invulnerable. Why should anyone conspire to destroy America? The answer is simple. The answer is that inferior nation-states, like inferior persons, sometimes hate those who are superior.

Julien Benda once wrote: �Our age is the age of the intellectual organization of political hatreds.� Now ask yourself who the organizers of political hatred are, and which nations have been targeted? Today, the central targets of organized political hatred are Israel and the United States.

First you hate, then you dehumanize, then you kill. That is the formula for mass destruction warfare. You don�t begin a war by nuking enemy cities. You begin by organizing hatred against target populations. You dehumanize your target. When you have united a large enough mass behind you, and they are eager for blood, then you can unleash your weapons of mass destruction. The world will stand up and cheer, and you will be its new master.

Hatred is a powerful unifying force. In his book, �The True Believer,� Eric Hoffer wrote: �hatred is not always directed against those who wronged us.� In fact, it is often directed at the good, the superior and the fortunate. Seeing that someone is superior to ourselves, we sometimes think ill of our abilities and prospects. �Self contempt produces in man the most unjust and criminal passions,� wrote Hoffer, who explained that hatred is often �an expression of a desperate effort to suppress an awareness of our inadequacy, worthlessness, guilt and other shortcomings of the self.�

If we look at the world around us, at the Arab world, the Chinese and the Russians, we find national inferiority complexes at work. And these help to explain the war preparations of Russia and China, and their justification by officials like Gen. Chi Haotian of China�s Communist Party Central Military Commission, who said in 1999: �War [with American imperialism] is inevitable. We cannot avoid it.� He also explained, �We must be prepared to fight for one year, two years, or even longer.�



posted on Nov, 26 2004 @ 02:41 PM
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Ion Mihai Pacepa
en.wikipedia.org...

No doubt the man was right up there at the top and in a position to be aware of many secrets. After his defection it would seem our government and agencies should have a good grasp of the situation.
End results would imply an intelligence failure at first appearances. So much is smoke and mirrors in our world that it remains virtually impossible for an average man to see through the layers! However one must try



posted on Feb, 2 2007 @ 11:30 PM
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An article from the Russian magazine Ogonek reported that in Russia and the other republics there are now 27 cities involved in strategic weapons production and development which have been CLOSED to Westerners. Many of these facilities are purported to be located underground, encased in granite. The Russian government employs 755.000 people in these facilities. Between 1.500 and 2.000 of these people are scientists, the rest are technicians and workers.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 08:33 AM
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Russia is indeed becoming the center of the world, the bridge between the far-east and the west. They are playing a magnificent cold-war endgame. Indeed, as the war on terror draws out, anti-war protests are gaining momentum in Britain, France, Scandinavia, Germany etc. All over the west people see Russia as a better business partner than the U.S. The whole of western Europe will soon be buying their oil from Gazprom. At the same time Russia has struck an amicable friendship with growing China. The pattern is clear: Moscow is overtaking Washington as the new Rome, with new and improved ties to Europe, and ever improving ties to the far-east. Meanwhile they trust in China to increase its influence in Africa. Thus Russia and China are together threatining the dominion of the U.S.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 09:27 AM
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Putin the "reformer" admits he personally never left the Communist Party. A keen-eyed observer of the CNN TV report on the December, 1999 Russian parliamentary elections spotted Putin presenting his I.D. to the clerk so he could vote. The I.D. clearly showed the letters CCCP on the inside of the booklet -- his official Soviet Union Communist Party ID. The authoritative British journal, "Soviet Analyst" commented that CNN ignored this "curiosity."



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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Before everyone starts screaming that the "Russians are Coming!" Let's consider the following;

Ten years ago, life expectancy for Russian males was 63. It is now 56 which is the same as in Bangladesh.

There are more abortions performed in Russia than births.

One it two new-born has a disease/defect diagnosed at birth.

Ten Million people are infertile due to ill health.

In the first 6 months of 2005, Russia's population fell by half a million.

The Russian Government has warned that by 2050 the population could be halved.

Although Russia's population is in free-fall, people are still being driven out – 30,000
Meshket Turks have recently had to seek asylum in America, having been forced from their homes by discriminatory laws and racist attacks.

I think the poor bloody Russians have enough on their plate and whilst fantasies of world domination might break the gloom, I don't think they will be threatening anyone. It is extraordinary the extent to which the manipulation of fear has become a key component in Western politics. If it's not the Russians, it's the Muslims. I wish the Chinese would hurry up and get their act together we could do with a bit more variety mixed in with this paranoia



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 11:57 AM
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Some people should do little research! China is a bigger threat than Russia but they are far from being able to project their military power beyond its own borders!

A World of Paper Tigers, ATS link!

Let's look at Russia, hmmm . . . lost the Warsaw Pact counties (E. Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungry, Romainia, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia and Albania) . . . hmmm . . . I guess no big deal here . . .
Oh yeah . . . lost the Baltics (Lithuania, Lativia and Estonia) . . . well its only the Baltics, we don't need no stink'en warm water port!


Well, that's not so bad . . . oh wait . . . oh yeah . . . lost the Ukraine, Belarus, Maldova, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenstan, Tajikistan and Kyrgystan . . . well heck that wasn't so bad . . . what do you mean the US has military bases in some of these countries . . . no way . . . and you mean some of the Warsaw pact are now NATO countries????


Never Mind!


Just a bit of advice "BeLow" do some research, check out the great Russian military at the link below:

Global Security - Russia



[edit on 2/4/07 by mel1962]



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:00 PM
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AS FOR THE "POLITICAL PARTIES" WHICH HAVE ARISEN IN RUSSIA SINCE THE "FALL OF COMMUNISM", THEY ARE ALL FRONT GROUPS SET UP AND CONTROLLED BY THE CPSU (COMMUNIST PARTY SOVIET UNION), AS CONFIRMED IN POLITICAL AFFAIRS, THE JOURNAL OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES. (OCT-NOV '94 ISSUE).



posted on Feb, 5 2007 @ 02:18 PM
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Russia is about to win what ? They can't destroy the nuclear arsenal of USA, they can't invade anything, no conventional war is possible, because everybody has nukes.
Nobody will win anything because of these bombs, they truly end all wars, or end the world



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 08:20 AM
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This is how Lenin described the strategy behind the New Economic Policy: The Capitalists of the world and their governments, in pursuit of conquest of the Soviet market, will close their eyes to the indicated higher reality and thus will turn into deaf, mute, blind men. They will extend credits, which will strengthen for us the Communist Party in their countries, and giving us the materials and technology we lack, they will restore our military industry, indispensable for our future victorious attacks on our suppliers. In other words, they will labor for the preparation for their own suicide....



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Fennie
This is how Lenin described the strategy behind the New Economic Policy: The Capitalists of the world and their governments, in pursuit of conquest of the Soviet market, will close their eyes to the indicated higher reality and thus will turn into deaf, mute, blind men. They will extend credits, which will strengthen for us the Communist Party in their countries, and giving us the materials and technology we lack, they will restore our military industry, indispensable for our future victorious attacks on our suppliers. In other words, they will labor for the preparation for their own suicide....


Hmmm . . . why was the policy only instituted after the soviet empire fell????????????? Please, stop beating yourself up and doing drugs!



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 09:17 PM
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THE TRUTH IS, RUSSIAN AND CHINESE POLICY IS ALWAYS BASED ON LENINISM. AND THIS IS LENINISM AT ITS BEST!



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Fennie
THE TRUTH IS, RUSSIAN AND CHINESE POLICY IS ALWAYS BASED ON LENINISM. AND THIS IS LENINISM AT ITS BEST!



Hmmm . . . you lose your empire, money and military . . . and now you have the enemy right where you want them . . . I think in capitalist terms I would refer to this form of Leninism as . . .

"A date with mismanagment"


[edit on 2/6/07 by mel1962]



posted on Feb, 6 2007 @ 10:36 PM
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I thought it was funny when the newspapers shouted "Communism is dead!". Really? Did Castro get that memo? Did Red China fail to notice that communism was dead?
Russia is no threat. THEIR communistic way of life is dead (once we quit financially supporting it) but communism isn't dead. Castro's not much of a threat either. China, on the other hand, should be taken seriously no matter what their political leanings.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 06:00 AM
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I am convinced... I have been saying this all the time, Russia wants to set up a deception, they want us to attack the Islamic Fundamentalists, wage a holy war between us and them then they want to give their allies more money and weapons. They still want their satellite nations to succeed because they are still supplying them with weapons, alas, they want to supply them with nuclear arms, but what will this arms race do? Absolutely nothing, just like it did in the first cold war, and I have been saying over and over again that this is the cold war two--because lots of the nations that were not defeated in the first cold wars-- are our enemies today-- but people haven't listened to me enough.



posted on Feb, 7 2007 @ 07:41 AM
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Why are we suddenly losing so many helicopters in Iraq? Is Russia supplying new weapons to the enemy?



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