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So here is what we was all waiting for and suspected will soon happen...
Tens of thousands have joined a rally in the Russian capital Moscow to oppose its intervention in Ukraine, a day before Crimeans vote on whether to secede and join Russia.
Holding Russian and Ukrainian flags, they shouted: "The occupation of Crimea is Russia's disgrace." A smaller pro-Moscow rally was being held elsewhere.
Moscow supports the vote, which Ukraine and the West have dismissed as illegal.
Kiev says Russian "provocateurs" are behind clashes in eastern Ukraine.
benrl
Wow, looks like the spirit of democracy and free speech still exist, and people are still willing to protest in mass against their government...
In Russia...
We can't even get some muted outcry for our government violating the constitution on a near constant basis.
TritonTaranis
benrl
Wow, looks like the spirit of democracy and free speech still exist, and people are still willing to protest in mass against their government...
In Russia...
We can't even get some muted outcry for our government violating the constitution on a near constant basis.
That's because the US isn't occupying Canada illegally or the UK occupying France illegally... It because such a situation hasn't ever occurred in the US or Europe since the rise of Nazi germany
the2ofusr1
reply to post by benrl
You might have a argument from the Iraqis and the Afghanistan people .The Us is good at usurping the law .The war on Iraq is the one that stands out the most .
FlyersFan
Uh - oh. Vlad isn't going to like that. Mr. stone cold KGB is probably taking pictures and names. Seriously .. Vladimir Putin is one stone cold dude who doesn't blink. He'll 'deal' with these folks after he's done expanding into the Ukraine. Betchya.
benrl
TritonTaranis
benrl
Wow, looks like the spirit of democracy and free speech still exist, and people are still willing to protest in mass against their government...
In Russia...
We can't even get some muted outcry for our government violating the constitution on a near constant basis.
That's because the US isn't occupying Canada illegally or the UK occupying France illegally... It because such a situation hasn't ever occurred in the US or Europe since the rise of Nazi germany
The US isn't occupying countries illegally...
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TritonTaranis
You have just proven you don't support the wishes of the people in Ukraine because the US is speaking out about Russia actions in Ukraine with the rest if the world, your fixated on the US please try to focus on the issue at hand here
Let's talk about Ukraine please...
So to sum this mess up
Ukrainian people want Russia out
The Ukrainian government want Russia out
The international community want Russia out
The Russia people want Russia out
Putin and his anti west brigade and conspiracy nut jobs want Russia in
What a shame you should go join the tiny protest in Moscow in support of putler
benrl
TritonTaranis
You have just proven you don't support the wishes of the people in Ukraine because the US is speaking out about Russia actions in Ukraine with the rest if the world, your fixated on the US please try to focus on the issue at hand here
Let's talk about Ukraine please...
So to sum this mess up
Ukrainian people want Russia out
The Ukrainian government want Russia out
The international community want Russia out
The Russia people want Russia out
Putin and his anti west brigade and conspiracy nut jobs want Russia in
What a shame you should go join the tiny protest in Moscow in support of putler
My Stance, is that the US, and NATO, should stay out of a situation that does not involve an Allie, One in which we have NO LEGAL obligation to interfere in.
You know, common sense.
benrl
the2ofusr1
reply to post by benrl
You might have a argument from the Iraqis and the Afghanistan people .The Us is good at usurping the law .The war on Iraq is the one that stands out the most .
Or the overthrow of the Democratically elected ruler of Iran.
Stuff like that, Gives the US NO MORAL standing to say anything to Russia.
IT is why foreign policy is important, at this point our stances would almost be comical, if the end result where not mass tragedy the world over.
TritonTaranis
Adolf Hilter expected much of the same ?
And that's common sense is it?
No legal obligations to interfere? Please remember that the EU boarders Russia and the US is the strongest NATO member to speak out about Russia illegal actions in Ukraine, stop sidetracking this show with your hate for the US please and focus on the issue at hand and the right and wrongs in this situation in Ukraine a And not anywhere else
edit on 16-3-2014 by TritonTaranis because: (no reason given)
Godwin's law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1" [2][3]— that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
TDawg61
How many ATS threads do you insist on DERAILING with your anti-American garbage??Damn you.edit on CDTSunpm0161 by TDawg61 because: (no reason given)
benrl
the2ofusr1
reply to post by benrl
You might have a argument from the Iraqis and the Afghanistan people .The Us is good at usurping the law .The war on Iraq is the one that stands out the most .
Stuff like that, Gives the US NO MORAL standing to say anything to Russia.