Russia downs US drone *Breaking*

reply to post by neo96


Dude. Are you a crazy person?

I don't care about either side. I was playing devils advocate. I hate both sides.

But you, dang, you, you are all kinds of twisted in the game.

Seriously, you need to take a chill pill or something. You're not even seeing my words for east they are. You're just fighting against your hatred.

Chill. I don't care. They both suck. Yes, your party too. No one is better than the other. Stop living in the past.

AAC.

Mamatus
The only joke is the two of you arguing politics on a thread about a downed drone.

Here is an idea, screw both of your parties and get back on topic or get a room.

I'm not supporting either. I chose yo play devils advocate when he started dem hating. I regret that now because he's clearly lost it.

Back to the point...

WWIII.

AAC

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


I agree someone does need to 'chill', and end the personal snips, and get back to the topic.

Which was about a drone in Russian hands.

reply to post by neo96


Sorry for the crazy person comment. It was meant as a term of endearment.

AAC

tiremanken
I would think that flying over enemy airspace would require pre-programmed flight path software (insulated from jamming) just in case jamming was attempted.
ken
how hard would that be?

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They would have to spend billions to research the idea, billions to have manufacturer retrofit and billions to retrain the pilots. If investigated would probably find out they had a two dollar option to do it the first time but was looking a future business.

AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by dlbott

 

I stopped reading your reply when you started bashing everyone.

Get a grip dude.

AAC

The truth is not bashing, it is a big stick. Should have read it. Truth hurts.

The Bot

SLAYER69

stormbringer1701
that does not look like an american drone to me. does someone have the model number and name? methinks it is a misidentification of a Ukrainian drone.

Yeah actually it is an American drone.
I have a picture around here someplace I took of one at the Smithsonian last summer.

Yea it is very old lol... I think there is one still being flown for opfor at ft Polk. But not many of those first gens around anymore, definitely not in the Ukraine. This whole thing big pile oh chit. We had no hand in this. Social media, the new CIA and new commie killers lol... What a headline that is lol.

Putin heavy handed days are numbered. The social media revolution headed through Russia next. Then maybe China, although they have it locked down pretty tight there. Countries are to young. Young people demand freedom and liberty.

The Bot

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


There is a silent war already underway between the West and Russia.

This war involves spying and surveillance and financial sabotage.

Russia has realized that the West is after its very existence. Russians have two options offered by the West - forgo their unique identity and merge as faceless citizens of Europe OR get obliterated.

It seems at this time that the West will prevail. However such a conclusion is misleading.

The Chinese are increasingly at odds with the West as China needs natural resources in control of the West. The Western (Anglo Saxon) empire has been squeezing the Chinese by increasing raw material prices while importers push manufacturers for lower prices of manufactured goods. Chinese have realized that their dream of Asian superpower will not be realized in the existing international framework.

Russia has oil which can go east if going west is a problem. China has everything that Russia does not have, except food.

China compliments Russia mostly except this nagging issue of food security. So it turns out as an issue of making hard choices.

Military technology is not such a big issue. Russians will learn how to cope with the Western technology. The Crimea will secede though Russia will not annex Crimea in a hurry. And the standoff will continue.

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


There is no coating or geometry that can hide a plane from ALL radiations.

The difficulty is fabricating devices that employ multiple search wavelengths including visible spectrum. If an equipment is properly fabricated, it can detect any stealth airplane.

The best way to look for drones is to fly search planes above drones flight height and listen to drone's communication with satellites. Such a system when combined with infra-red and visible light sensors will almost always detect the drone's presence.

So .... the Russians have the technology to make US drones inoperable.

Is Obama going to have to resort to using ..... bayonets?

acmpnsfal
reply to post by tallcool1

 

They technically have a right to be there under old Ukrainian laws, but the new government emerging no longer follows the old law Putin refuses to acknowledge it though. And if you really think hes all about protecting Russians you are naieve.

The new government wasn't elected, doesn't preside over eastern Ukraine and ousted the elected government by force. By any western logic, the new "government" in western Ukraine is illegitimate. [except when it's not convenient, right?]

wtf is our government such a bunch of bitches that want to do nothing but start wars everywhere?
STOP. seriously, stop before you destroy the whole effin planet.
sincerely,
everyone who hasn't lost their marbles

Timing
Okay. So we know that the US military isn't saying yes or no if it was one of their drones that went down. If it was one of our drones it would be broadcast just like when we lost the Blackhawk in the Bin Laden raid.

We know Google was instrumental in the coup in Egypt, we also know Google is a huge supporter of Obama.

Are the pieces starting to come together yet? Or are we all going to continue to be naive about what is really going on?

Okay, so what the hell IS really going on? in a hundred words or less.....

reply to post by stirling


It's a Google coup.

All this brash ignoring of the laws and the recent Supreme Court justice rulings? The country has been hijacked. Obama has made it clear he doesn't like the US Constitution.

What do you think a Supreme Court justices Google search would turn up? Something that might ruin their career?

Do you really put it past this Administration to use blackmail to push it's agenda when they shoved a healthcare law down our throats that nobody wanted?

It doesn't take a scholar.

AnAbsoluteCreation

tallcool1
Things are beginning to get a little bit crazy - however, if Russia were to send a drone into, say Iraqi airspace, I have no doubt that the US would do the same thing. The only difference being that Russia is there at the request of Crimea as well as there to protect Russian citizens. They have more right to be there than we do being in Iraq or Afghanistan.

This will not end well for America....

I somewhat agree, but if there was mutual respect, Putin would call Obama and warn him to stop flying recon missions over Crimea... Or else...

Looks like that time has come and go.

This a major move on the proverbial chess board. We are in check...

AAC

Maybe Putin did call Obama and warn him, and the US has no need to be in Ukraine or to preotect Ukrainians. Sometimes theese things just need to play themselves out without any outside involvmment. We dont need two countries with two of the worlds biggest WMD stockpiles to get into it over Ukraine, its not a smart choice.

reply to post by neo96


‘Zero Truth’: U.S. Denies Russia Captured Drone Over Crimea

Excerpted from IBTimes: U.S. defense officials say reports from Russia that an American MQ-5B drone was intercepted over Crimea and made an emergency landing there are false. Voice of Russia reported on Friday that “an American scout-attack drone was intercepted in the Crimean sky” and made an emergency landing after an electronic attack disrupted its computers.

“There is zero truth” to the reports, said a Department of Defense spokesperson reached by phone in Washington.

According to the Russian source, the drone, an MQ-5B Hunter, belonged, judging by its markings, to the 66th US Military Intelligence Brigade, based in Germany.

The drone was at a height of about 4,000 meters or about 13,000 feet, according to Voice of Russia, which said it was in the possession of “self-defense forces.” A call to the brigade’s German headquarters was answered by a serviceman who said the unit had no knowledge of anything of the sort happening. Keep reading

Read more at patdollard.com...

tallcool1
reply to post by acmpnsfal

 

If you really believe it was Ukrainians revolting and not some American hired goons attempting to overthrow yet another government at Russia's doorstep - then it is not really me who is the naïve one.

Edited to add: Are you actually implying that Crimea does not have Russians living there as well as Russian flag waving supporters? Perhaps you need to turn off CNN and MSNBC and do a little digging...

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I really do believe its really Ukranians, or did the US somehow send thousands of Americans to live in the Ukraine for years, create lives for themselves, have families, and raise kids to one day start this revolt...talk about a long con. You're delusional. And no i'm not doubting there are Russian people in Ukraine but that's just it, they LIVE in the Ukraine not in Russia. Thats just like Mexico sending troops into the southwest to "protect" the large Mexican population, its bull. What are you reading RT?

Well that's one less Drone to spy on the american public so thanks Russia.

Seems to me that the current crop of puppets in the USA are at war with the world and it's own people all at the same time and dare even try to force Russia to stop elections in the Crimea so lets see how this plays out for the bankers in Washington who also want to start fracking under that bit of land you call home.

Hitler picked a fight with Russia and it cost him the war and America only jumped in at the last moment to put Europe under it's control but now it's looking like Europe is being dragged into a fight few people in the streets want and all due our so called "American" Friends that occupy our land and use threats behind closed doors on the odd occasions where bribed don't work.

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


You mean the illegitimate neo-nazi, western backed, violent coup government ? Yeah that must be the one as I don't remember hearing about any federal elections.

pirhanna

acmpnsfal
reply to post by tallcool1

 

They technically have a right to be there under old Ukrainian laws, but the new government emerging no longer follows the old law Putin refuses to acknowledge it though. And if you really think hes all about protecting Russians you are naieve.

The new government wasn't elected, doesn't preside over eastern Ukraine and ousted the elected government by force. By any western logic, the new "government" in western Ukraine is illegitimate. [except when it's not convenient, right?]

Yes agree 100% and this is making a lot of people in Europe question just why we have american military bases all over the place.