Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

If intended for later use by terrorists then what a well thought out plan.

Now, how does one find a place to land a big plane like that? Hijackers must have friends with lots of land and lots of asphalt to build a landing strip. What a plan if true!

Salamandy
If intended for later use by terrorists then what a well thought out plan.

Now, how does one find a place to land a big plane that? Hijackers must have friends with lots of land and lots of asphalt to build a landing strip. What a plan if true!

My original theory on this, and the one I still like, is that if this is a terrorist organized plot, it was landed in the Maldives. There is plenty of extremism going on there, Iranians need no visa to stay there for up to 30 days, they have the airport big enough to handle this plane, and there are NUMEROUS ties to the Iranian government there.

Land the plane, de-board passengers, park plane in hangar out of site and do what needs to be done to execute the second phase.

reply to post by Zaphod58


As I said before, if secondary (transponder) radar was switched off (reports are that it was), primary radar only detects planes as a dot amongst many other dots and no corresponding ID, therefore the flight would have been undetected.

theabsolutetruth
reply to post by NullVoid

 

If the transponder is switched off it won't be on radar. Hence the fact it reportedly flew for an additional 4 HOURS after 'disappearing' ie going off radar, but it was tracked by the military and Boeing's signals sent from the engine.

It is possible that it could have flown off radar for 4 hours and onto somewhere else and had work done on it that prevented further detection ie from stopping signals to Boeing and or cloaking of some sort.

Um, your wrong. The transponder has NOTHING to do with radar. Do you know how radar works?

reply to post by theabsolutetruth


For Air Traffic Control. Do you really think military radar relies on transponders?

As soon as they flew into an ADIZ, comms out, no transponder, no flight plan they would be intercepted.

reply to post by SixX18


Uhm, he's almost right. Secondary radar which is most ATC radar relies solely on the transponder. It sends out a signal and the transponder replies with airspeed, altitude, etc.

The only part he is wrong about is the Primary return not being seen or tried to identified.

reply to post by Vasa Croe


Because it was stated by Interpol...does not make it true. At first they were more worried about two passports than an entire airliner full of people. The passport story was burned into everybodies minds. We all must understand the news aint news anymore.It's infotainment. IMHO this plane has not crashed. If RR says the engines ran for four more hours, why would RR lie about such a thing.

reply to post by openyourmind1262


All that means is it didn't crash where they thought. That doesn't automatically mean they were hijacked or landed in another country.

openyourmind1262
reply to post by Vasa Croe

 

Because it was stated by Interpol...does not make it true. At first they were more worried about two passports than an entire airliner full of people. The passport story was burned into everybodies minds. We all must understand the news aint news anymore.It's infotainment. IMHO this plane has not crashed. If RR says the engines ran for four more hours, why would RR lie about such a thing.

Why wouldn't they be worried about two stolen passports being used? That would immediately throw suspicion of terrorism on a plane that disappeared. There was no infotainment involved in reporting that stolen passports were used to board this flight...that is still the case, they were stolen and used. What is not being reported on much is the intent of the individuals that stole them and used them other than Interpol and others stating they were part of a human trafficking ring or speculation that they are involved with terrorism.

RR has not come out and said that in any official statement at this point, so we have to wait for that. As far as I know they have not officially denied it either.

My bet is still that the plane landed in the Maldives.

OpinionatedB
reply to post by wearethebest

 

Live news brief from Kuala Lumpur; The head of the Malaysia Transport Authority speaking, has denied allegations made by the Wall Street Journal yesterday concerning the plane being in contact with Rolls Royce, maker of the engine for the Boeing 777 for an additional 4 hours.

Video: Malaysia Defends Missing Jet Search Nothing to Hide Over Plane Search.

It seems they're sticking with the idea that the engine was running for hours after its last transmission.
Washington Post

The engines of a missing Malaysian airliner continued to operate for about four hours after it disappeared from radar over the Gulf of Thailand, U.S. authorities said Thursday, providing a tantalizing new lead in a case that has baffled Malaysian authorities and turned into one of the biggest aviation mysteries in history.

Zaphod58
reply to post by theabsolutetruth

 

For Air Traffic Control. Do you really think military radar relies on transponders?

As soon as they flew into an ADIZ, comms out, no transponder, no flight plan they would be intercepted.

edit on 3/13/2014 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)

The problem is the military did not identify or intercept the UFO on their radar. They should of intercepted but they did not. Similarly when the flight disappeared from the ATC of Malaysia and Vietnam neither country did anything .The plane just disappeared. The ATCs of Malaysia and Vietnam did nothing.

reply to post by ispyed


And what would you have them do?

The flight path they would probably be on wouldn't take them through any ADIZ in the area so there was no reason to intercept them. As far as Malaysia ATC knew they switched over to Vietnam ATC. The crew acknowledged the frequency change.

As far as Vietnan ATC knew they never called them or entered their airspace, which almost every time means they aborted the flight in the air, or broke on the ground and never took off.

So what did you want them to do?

reply to post by Zaphod58


Report the plane missing!!! It disappeared from the ATC of both Vietnam and Malaysia. Plane gone missing.

reply to post by ispyed


Let me say it again. It did not disappear from either technically. Malaysian ATC handed them over to Vietnam. At that point they stop following them as they have other aircraft to worry about. Once they acknowledged the frequency change Malaysian ATC removed the "strip" and essentially forgot about them.

Until they called ATC in Vietnam, then Vietnam had nothing to do with them and no way to talk to them.

As far as either one knew the plane was still under the control of the other. Malaysia assumed they were talking to Vietnam, and maybe had a fixable electrical problem since they didn't radio anything.

Vietnam would have assumed they either turned back, or never took off since they never called them. The only way to be certain they were missing and not having a mechanical problem is when they failed to land.

reply to post by QuantumEffects


of course the aircraft could have landed safely an hour & 30 minutes after take-off .... at a prearranged, secure/remote/secluded landing strip...

and they deliberately left the engines running for the other 4 hours to put the imbecile investigators on a fake trail/assumption


Yes... Jihadists (who are not dangerous fellows according to 0bama) now have a large aircraft to use in a suicide operation..
and likely a pilot that commandeered the craft & could very well insert a retrofitted craft into a flight corridor in some future anti-USA OR anti-Israel attack endeavor

the thievery team could go on the blackmarket/ underworld as being able to deliver any Boeing 0r Airbus commercial planes... for a right price

...The U.S. is moving the search to the Indian Ocean while Malaysia is denying the engines continued sending data. Which set of officials do you reckon knows more? The U.S. would not be sending the USS Kidd to an area based on rumor or hearsay. I strongly suspect the U.S. has data which it cannot share publicly because the data would reveal the extent of U.S. capabilities...

found this article this morning...

www.oftwominds.com...

TITLE: What Happened to Flight 370? An Analysis of What Is Known
(March 13, 2014)

2. Additional information is available but is not being shared with the public. To take one example, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) on Flight 370 was functioning and automatically sent data on four critical systems, including the engines. This data has not been released by Malaysian Airlines.

It also appears that the pilot of another 777 airliner heading to Japan contacted the pilot in Flight 370 and reported the transmission was garbled.

Even with the transponder off, the aircraft would appear on primary (military) radar. The Malaysian military tracked Flight 370 but is dissembling. Clearly the authorities are not revealing the full extent of what is known.

so TPTB are allowing holes in the info released to the public... possibly to build up the awareness, a dazed & confused awareness of an ill informed public to mask the dangers of Ukraine & Syria for two examples

They release the longitude and latitude and it's behind the flight path.

The USS KIdd search commander said:

"Past experience shows that finding the wreckage can take weeks or even longer, especially if the location of the plane was in doubt."

I don't think there is much doubt that it is in the ocean.

Again, without navigational beacons Egypt Air would still be missing.

andy1972
If it hasn't crashed .

If it's not hijacked for terrorism, then you have the question why?

If it's not air piracy.

The plane you can't sell even for scrap.

That leaves few options -

What or who was the plane carrying to make it worth the while going to all this trouble.

May just be a new level of terror. Like being "disappeared" into the spooky unknown, flown out into the vast ocean and vanished.

You get on a plane and are never seen or heard from again. Spooky man.

I believe they are looking in the wrong place.

I think they should be looking at the remote, uninhabitable mountainous areas of Tibet and India.

CdT

So the latest on this is that the plane shortly after disappearing climbed above the planes limit of 42000 to 45000 ft.

It then turned and descended to around 20000 and went to the west coast of Malaysia when it zigzagged NE then NW.

NOW a classified report says based on the satellite blips it is down in the Indian ocean somewhere.

It is obvious the plane was hijacked......maybe..........then the climb was either due to a struggle OR it was intentional to cause all onboard to pass out more quickly then continued on.

It was stated early on that it could have been terrorists aiming at Chinese citizens.

It has also been stated on another conspiracy site I watch that China was going to blow it out of the sky and it turned and flew to India where it landed.

Are we being intentionally misled or did some highly qualified MI6 type agent or agents kill all the passengers and splash this plane in deep water?

BTW they also say it was nearly out or out of fuel when it went down and the engine data relayed showed a drop from 40000 to near zero in one minute........



P.S. I forgot to add that this was done at the perfect time. A red eye flight that was doing a hand off of communication between countries. Who would have thought of this? I think this might be a test run by terrorists to see how invisible this plane really was for future hijackings.