Interstellar travel impossible, therefore...

The subject line states my premise. SINCE interstellar travel is impossible, the so-called ET theory is invalid. And your promotion of the ET theory has been central to the UFO "phenomenon" for decades now. You have been foundational in promulgating an entire culture of UFO hysterics. Therefore, you are either sincerely misled, delusional, or an operative in the largest, and most successful PSY-OP in history. You don't strike me as deluding yourself, or mentally imbalanced. So I'll ask, or rather suggest a possible explanation of who Stanton Friedman is, in part. Are you, or have you been, an employee or a contractor of a U.S. government intelligence agency?
It makes a whole lot of sense that you are very possibly a big player in perpetuating a very useful hoax that the government can benefit from: a sensational idea that the wishful would follow like lemmings, and serve to distract the public from various programs they prefer to be hidden. Assuming my theory is correct, the UFO disinformation program has been enormously successful. ET's arriving to our solar locale is an impossible feat. So, Dr. Friedman...are your checks from the government direct-deposited?

Well I guess that closes the book on that one. Close the forum!!

...SINCE interstellar travel is impossible...

Taking my space-ship back to the store in the morning, lying b**tards

Interstellar travel is not impossible.
It just, in all likelihood, would take a very long time.

reply to post by eezveeneetee


Just because ET didn't zip over your head, nor take you for a quick galactic jaunt. Doesn't mean you can try to spoil it for the rest of us.

Don't be a sore looser. Cheer up, you still have an opportunity for the ET experience...

I really hope it happens to you. Your eating crow thread will be phenomenal....

Des

Ok, so,

Do you have any links or material stating that this travel is inpossible.

After all it is impossible to fly, reach space, live under water , store information using electrical devices(computers), detect other star systems/planets.

The list goes on about what is impossible.

Or should we just take your word dor it?

reply to post by eezveeneetee


Well aren't you just a bucket full of cheeriness and optimism.

Flying in an airplane used to be impossible once too....
Now everyone's doin it.

reply to post by eezveeneetee


Hello.

It's fun to make claims, but, can we see some evidence?

"Because I said so" is not evidence.

I disagree that aliens are visiting Earth, but, I do so from a basis of how vast the Universe is in both Space and Time in contrast to the relative amount of Space and Time our planet, and our species can account for.

Interstellar travel? I'm certain it's possible.
The Voyager 1 space probe, for instance, will eventually reach somewhere, whither it takes thousands, or Millions of years.
Project forward to technological singularity where we have Artificial Intelligence sent out on probes.
Also, NASA is currently developing proof of concept for warp travel "faster" than light with the
Alcubierre drive. While such is still to be realized or even practical, it lends toward eventual feasibility such we may very well have practical interstellar travel.

There.
I presented evidence to support my assertions.
Please do the same.

eezveeneetee
interstellar travel is impossible

You have any actual science to support this notion?

There are many mechanisms that seem like they could easily provide FTL travel, some of them very simple (could be implemented NOW!); like Frame dragging, Doppler shift, and a "sort of" mechanical "space warp".

So anyway, you will need to demonstrate that interstellar travel is "impossible".

I started to post something else
in here, but i wont...

Its no point.

OP fail

If everything that was thought to be impossible at one time was never pursued and achieved we would all be living in the stone age still.

So many things that were impossible are part of everyday life now .

I'm only in my 40s and when I was a kid if someone told me I would be using a phone to take pictures, and all the other things that phones do these days I would have thought they were crazy ...but the list of impossible goes on

Why are speeds faster than light not possible. Seems to me the observer would see a traveler at the speed of light always while the traveler might be exceeding the speed of light. Such as when an airplane breaks the speed of sound the sound wave travels farther behind the airplane the faster it goes. Same must be for light. An observer would see the light signature but the traveler would be far ahead of his light signature. I will probably be raked over the coals for mentioning this but it seems to make since to me, anyway.

reply to post by eManym

Why are speeds faster than light not possible.

They aren't. (not possible)
The rub is in achieving them.

reply to post by eManym


That's physics as we understand it, now. We have no way of knowing if there is an amendment to this law, or a way of working around it.

I recall reading books written in the thirties that speeds faster than 3000 mph were not possible and if a vehicle broke the speed of sound, some believed the Earth would be destroyed.

As far as human flight is concerned it would take a considerable amount of time to slow down from the speed of light without killing the pilot. How long could someone survive in a 4g or higher environment?

reply to post by eManym

The problem is not the velocity. The problem is the acceleration required to attain the velocity.
In "normal" space it is not possible to produce that acceleration. If you can find a way to deal with "normal" space there are other options. If you can deal with "normal" space you can travel without actually traveling...if you can deal with "normal" space.

reply to post by eezveeneetee


Well they did say the same thing about breaking the sound barrier and guess what happened.

reply to post by eezveeneetee


Given truth of your premise your conclusion is a reasonable assumption. Be your premise incorrect, your conclusion is still a reasonable consideration.

But you know what? This Stanton Friedman, a man I had never heard of, was not standing in the remote valley of the High Sierras with me in the summer of 63 when I saw what I saw.

So, please continue to believe what you believe and I shall go on considering what I will consider.

Possibly warping rotating cylinders for 180 degrees of their rotation would do it but that would be propulsion produced by inertial forces. Anyone mentioning inertial propulsion would be considered a laughing stock in the scientific community.