Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

BREAKING [6:24pm]: Floating object spied by plane yesterday - initially thought to be a plane door - turns out to be cable reel. Story here.

Meanwhile, analysis of oil slick reveals that it isn't aviation fuel from MH370, but from ship bunkering activities.

Oil slick is not from MH370. And the door or inverted raft or whatever they thought it was, turned out to be just a cable reel. Seriously?! Then where the hell is MH370? So 72 hours in with 40 ships and dozens of airplanes searching, we've got literally nothing. Wow..

At present and until declared otherwise this is still a search and rescue operation with multiple agencies involved . A plane is missing at this stage. Not bombed, shot down etc . There are family's involved which are hoping for a safe outcome. Ever hopeful of a joyous outcome.

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I've been involved with searches and 40 ships in such a large area is not a great number. Bear in mind that your visual distance at low level is reduced due to curvature. If there is debris most of it will be just below the surface so radar may not pick it up. One thought is that if the aircraft has ditched and a life raft deployed then I would imagine the EPIRB would have triggered automatically. Which would once identified narrow the search area unless there are strong prevailing winds.

Maybe the fake passports is complete baloney...maybe it's what they want you to believe happened: terrorist on fake passports blew the plane up. It's a very believable story that people wouldn't question. Insert the belief early enough and it becomes lore.

1. Maybe someone screwed up and shot the thing down by mistake/or intentionally, it's happened before now. If it was a missle strike then someone (usa I'm looking at you) would have picked up a heat signature from the explosion of the aircraft, and possibly the launch. Which leads me to believe someone knows where this plane is/ what happened to it.

2. If it was terrorist that blew up the plane I bet my last dollar it's down to the Freescale Semiconductor employees.

To find the answers look where everyone else isn't....

So has any traces of a crash been found or did the plane with all passengers just vanish into a magnetic hole? The 'Dragons Triangle' is more south of Japan, any bodies or anything?

When AirFrance447 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009 they didn't find any trace of it for a week.

It took another TWO YEARS to find the FDR/CVR Black-Boxes.

So people can be patient to find out what really happened or just throw out wild and baseless conjecture about bombs, missiles, hijackings and other nefarious plots as "What must have happened".

At present there are not enough facts to develop any kind of conclusion whatsoever.

Patience people.

reply to post by Leonidas


How quickly we forget..

I've been out of the loop the last 24hrs, is there a land search going on as well? Or just sea?

AlphaHawk
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How quickly we forget..

I've been out of the loop the last 24hrs, is there a land search going on as well? Or just sea?

Good Question. Star for you.

haveblue
Maybe the fake passports is complete baloney...maybe it's what they want you to believe happened: terrorist on fake passports blew the plane up. It's a very believable story that people wouldn't question. Insert the belief early enough and it becomes lore.

1. Maybe someone screwed up and shot the thing down by mistake/or intentionally, it's happened before now. If it was a missle strike then someone (usa I'm looking at you) would have picked up a heat signature from the explosion of the aircraft, and possibly the launch. Which leads me to believe someone knows where this plane is/ what happened to it.

2. If it was terrorist that blew up the plane I bet my last dollar it's down to the Freescale Semiconductor employees.

To find the answers look where everyone else isn't....

edit on 10-3-2014 by haveblue because: (no reason given)

If it was a missile strike, we should look at China, maybe they finally made good their threat to shoot anyone who does not adhere to their self declared ADIZ.

They don't care about their people anyway, what's a few hundred to them when they can afford to massacre several thousands or millions of their population.

Don't know how reliable the NYT source is but the assertion that no explosion was detected adds a bit of mystery to this event.

www.nbcnews.com...

Assuming no explosion, would not that lend credence to the plane breaking up due to a massive mechanical failure?

If the plane did break up at 35K feet, then I would imagine the debris field would be scattered over a massive area.

If I recall correctly, it took them 5 days to find initial debris from Air France 447 and then two more years to find the rest of the plane.

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According to the source, a rather obscure group which calls it's self the Chinese martyrs’ brigade has claimed responsibility for the disappearance of Malaysia airlines flight MH370.

Source

A group that calls itself the Chinese Martyrs' Brigade has claimed responsibility for crashing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which has remained missing after losing contact with ground control at 1:20am on Saturday.

The previously unheard-of group sent a PDF statement to various journalists in China on March 9, saying, "You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as pay back."

Leonidas


At present there are not enough facts to develop any kind of conclusion whatsoever.

Agreed.

However I also believe the facts are being suppressed, and we are being told what sounds believable.....OR much like AF447 they just don't know what happened to this plane.

With no Acars messages, VHF or HF comms, transponder code, ELT beacon, phone calls/txt, FDR ping, flares or even a signal mirror flash...you can see why people question what's going on.

I find it odd that the pilot did not radio in to base, no SOS distress signal, and surly at least 1 of the 200+ people could have gotten a phone call or text message out to their familys even if they only had a couple minutes.

Not one scrap of debry in the water, no bodys and no life boat, would they not be able to still get a signal from the GPS or other devices on the plane.

This plane disappearing is getting more mysterious by the day!

No debris found yet? (At least not Identified as part of this plane)
Oil Slicks were from boats!
No body parts?
Nothing.

I wonder if a vortex did indeed open up and this plane got sucked into another World!

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you wouldn't need a large, even a medium explosion to bring a plane down.
if it occurred inside the fuselage I doubt any kind of ''flash detecting'' equipment would notice it even occurring.

NeoSpace
I find it odd that the pilot did not radio in to base, no SOS distress signal, and surly at least 1 of the 200+ people could have gotten a phone call or text message out to their familys even if they only had a couple minutes.

Do phones even work at cruising altitude when its above an ocean between Thailand and Vietnam?
I cant get my Vodafone mobile to work when I'm 20kms from a capital city, let alone flying at 10,000feet over the ocean.

www.cnn.com...

Not sure if this was stated already or not but this link shows that the two people with stolen passports bought tickets together and there were also 5 people who did not board the flight.

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That would be because its Vodafone..

Someone had to say it!

NeoSpace
I find it odd that the pilot did not radio in to base, no SOS distress signal, and surly at least 1 of the 200+ people could have gotten a phone call or text message out to their familys even if they only had a couple minutes.

Not one scrap of debry in the water, no bodys and no life boat, would they not be able to still get a signal from the GPS or other devices on the plane.

it is odd that there was no "mayday" radioed from the pilots as it seems the were able to change headings, then again if it was some sort of power outage, they may have been able to have control yet no communications. but how would people use their cell phones? forget about the no cell phone rules while in flight. but a cell phone needs to be able to connect to a cell network. there are 2 things to keep in mind, first off where why would you expect a cell network a fair distance "off shore". and secondly contrary to the supposed calls made on 9-11, cellphones just don't get signal anywhere near the altitude the plane was at. i noticed at the end of a flight i had screwed up putting my phone into "airplane mode" (ended up on silent instead), i only started to receive signal just as the aircraft was getting ready to touch down, not sure what the altitude was, but it was not that high off the ground at all.

as for the transponder and other devices, keep in mind the transponder can be TURNED OFF from the cockpit. as can just about every other "device", there are devices that can activate in a crash, but i seem to recall it requires them to be "broken", during a crash. so if for example the airplane somehow lost all power and "ditched" in the sea these might not have been broken, thus no signal. and if it crashes into water, i doubt that they would "transmit" too awfully far, anyone know that information on how well the "crash beacons" can transmit from under water? and if as has been proposed the aircraft has been taken for whatever reason and landed somewhere,again the "crash beacons" would not turn on.

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left behind? rapture?

peace