Beijing-bound MAS plane carrying 239 people missing as of 20 mins ago.

reply to post by whatnext21

I don't understand the time zone factor. This article is dated 03/31/2014 and it says that today United Airlines flight 1221 was back at the airport and firefighters were on board investigating at 1:34 pm local Hawaii time. How can that be? Are they mistaken with am and pm? Or did this happen on 03/30/2014? It's just 1:00 pm eastern time zone now! I'm trying to figure out the aircraft type.
www.eturbonews.com...

Edit: Check out this Youtube video. Notice in the background the GA Telesis aircraft. All white with red vertical stabilizer! The United Airlines flight looks like a 757.

reply to post by whatnext21


It's a Boeing 757; still Boeing (but not 777 like the MAS plane) on the Honolulu to LAX route.

flightaware.com...

The cancelled Honolulu flight to Guam WAS A Boeing 777 yesterday.

flightaware.com...

Oops, sorry, just saw your post mikeultra.


It would appear that the date and/or times are wrong OR they're in some kind of time warp!



Based on what you've posted below concerning the Koreas>>>down there! wondering if the flight was cancelled due to fear of stray missiles? Seems like a bit far, though.?

Where are our friendly aviation peeps? Is any of this out of the ordinary?

watchesfromwall
reply to post by whatnext21

 

It's a Boeing 757; still Boeing (but not 777 like the MAS plane) on the Honolulu to LAX route.

flightaware.com...

Oops, sorry, just saw your post mikeultra.

edit on 31-3-2014 by watchesfromwall because: (no reason given)

What about the time zone factor? Something isn't right. Look at the beginning of the Youtube video, that's a GA Telesis aircraft, all white with red tail!

Edit: CNN switching to new diversion! Koreas are about to explode. Is this an April Fools joke or what?

Mikeultra
Can someone verify that it's possible to change the EXIF gps coordinates using Picasa3 or any other photo hosting site?

There are tens if not hundred applications on the market to change EXIF data. Just type ‚change exif data‘ into your favorite search engine to find some of the most popular like Exif Pilot for example. But you can even use any Hex-Editor or good TextEditor if you know how to do this.

EXIf data is a security leak if you don’t know it is in your picture but is very easy to fake to let others find out what you want to be ‚leaked‘

This United Airlines flight 1221 trouble happened yesterday 03/30/2014. Newspaper needs a proof reader! I'm still worried about that GA Telesis aircraft in the Youtube video though. All white with red tail.
Edit: After looking again at the white plane with red tail, it says JAL on it. Japan Air Lines. Maybe the other GA Telesis aircraft I saw were previously leased to JAL?

UnixFE

Mikeultra
Can someone verify that it's possible to change the EXIF gps coordinates using Picasa3 or any other photo hosting site?

There are tens if not hundred applications on the market to change EXIF data. Just type ‚change exif data‘ into your favorite search engine to find some of the most popular like Exif Pilot for example. But you can even use any Hex-Editor or good TextEditor if you know how to do this.

EXIf data is a security leak if you don’t know it is in your picture but is very easy to fake to let others find out what you want to be ‚leaked‘

Thanks for the info. I was starting to believe that this guy was in a dungeon on Diego Garcia based on the EXIF data. Now I know it means nothing because it could be changed. I still have suspicions about Diego Garcia though.

Just heard on BBc news that the Malay Gov has stated that the last words communicated from the plane were slightly different from what was previously reported.

They are no saying that the last words were "Goodnight Malaysian 370"

Make of that what you will?

reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite


Standard. They usually give the flight number so the controller knows who called.

reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite


I'm just wondering why they didn't give the correct words in the first place? Or did they and now they want to change it?

The only difference is that the pilot is supposed to give the plane code but many people said it was common not to use more relaxed conversation.

Zaphod58
reply to post by RP2SticksOfDynamite

 

Standard. They usually give the flight number so the controller knows who called.

Why have they been saying for 2 weeks that the last words were, "All right, good night." That is different than what they are saying now, "All right, good night. MH370." That is changing the story, aka lying.

reply to post by Daughter2


It's standard to use formally relaxed conversation.

reply to post by Mikeultra


How is it lying? They left off the flight number. I've seen that a few times after an accident. They just use the main portion of the message and leave the flight number off, on the assumption that you can figure out pretty easily which flight they're talking about.

Was just over reading the aviation page, apparently the orange objects found, were related to fishing equipment.....geez....not surprised.....wish they would find SOMETHING!! For the 100th time I'm saying this....sad.

The original transcript in English I saw stated "Transcript based on Mandarin version of English language transcript. Some wording may not be exact."

So the earlier one may have been E to M to E.

Maybe we are now getting the original English version without an error. Looks like Malaysia released the last sentence from their sealed data.

roadgravel
Looks like Malaysia released the last sentence from their sealed data.

And will soon release the rest of the conversation to next of kin if this is right:

OatDelphi
Well, so after 3 1/2 weeks of thinking "Alright, good night" were the last spoken words... we find out that like everything else, this is not true.

www.thestar.com.my...

Thanks for the link. I found this news in that link much more significant:

It also said the Minister had instructed the investigating team to release the full transcript of the conversation to the next of kin during the next briefing session.

Something tells me if they give it to the next of kin, there's a good chance it will leak to the internet, though the article isn't clear about whether they plan to make it public officially after providing a copy to the next of kin.

Mikeultra
What about the time zone factor? Something isn't right.

Google is your friend but yes it can get strange like when you take a flight and your local arrival time is BEFORE your local departure time, you feel like a time traveler. Just find the international date line and what's to the left of it is tomorrow and what's to the right of it is yesterday, so you can switch days in a few seconds by just crossing that line.

If you want to resolve such discrepancies with local times, just convert all times you look at to UTC (the reference time people around the world offset their clocks to), then all arrivals will be after departures (which may not be the case when using local time if your flight crossed the international date line). This should hopefully also resolve the discrepancy you mentioned.

reply to post by roadgravel


Yes it was English to Malay to English. But even that was after it was well established by Malaysian Officials that the Co-pilot stated "alright, goodnight".

The only reason it was translated was because the transcript came from Malaysian speaking news source, who had supposedly viewed the document and recorded it in Malaysian. It then made it's way into the MSM where it was translated back to English.

So like I had said way back when it first came out, it was stepped on 2 times at minimum and a 3rd time if Malaysian Officials messed with it before it was leaked.

Worst part is, Malaysian Officials know whether we saw the real transcript the first time. And even if it was genuine and correctly translated they can just simply claim it was bogus or mistranslated if it serves their needs.

I am really starting to fear we will never get the true story.

I have had a look over the video, the B777 with the red sun on the tail is a JAL B777 this is the airlines new-ish livery.

I find it so unbelievable that the source of the transcript was done shopshoddy sent to the news and has been running across the world for 3 weeks now as 'alright, goodnight' and nobody thought to say 'oops maybe we left out a few words, or added one that didn't belong and let it slide with this thing spinning it's own suppositions that the pilots had some nefarious intent because they didn't sign off properly. What's Next?

This is a good interview on presstv. The interviewer is talking to a Mr. Peterson in Washington, D.C. and a Mr. Barrett in Madison, WI. My impression is that Mr. Peterson is not honest and at about 19:25 starts selling the idea that this incident wouldn't have happened if the new live streaming data systems were mandated to replace the existing black boxes.

Mr. Barrett talks about all the false flags that have happened and that this might be one of them. He gets cut off at the end when he mentions the false flag that Turkey was caught planning the other day.

I am beginning to think that this disappearance was done solely to push the new live streaming data systems.

www.presstv.ir...

Are they serious right now?

MH370: New last words from cockpit: 'Good night Malaysian three seven zero'

The revised the last words?