US Army Vet cuts down Mexican Flag flying over American Flag

reply to post by alldaylong


A colony is not a country.

You don't immigrate to a colony, you join a colony.

The names stayed the same, but their status changed from colony to state.

alldaylong
reply to post by poet1b

 

If the USA was a complete "New Country" after 1776, why were the names of the original colonies kept? They should have been re-named should they have not?

That is SO confusing!! Someone saying their from Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield etc etc... YOU ARE NOT FROM THERE! lol

reply to post by poet1b

It seems all too many people do not want to give credit to the people who founded the US, and want to give it all to the immigrants, who only came here after the pioneers created this nation.

What? Seriously - what?

This country was built on the backs of slaves and cheap immigrant labor

As far as the people living in the territory that would become the US, a great number of them joined our civilization and their descendants live among us in relative anonymity.

Joined YOUR civilization? Anonymity?

I wish you were kidding - the arrogance

You think those original pioneers would have got as far as the did without a little extra help, willing or otherwise? Not a chance

Your entire premise sorta suggests you think there was a point where America the Product was finished. Not so fast. Still happening - and still with the contribution of immigrants

reply to post by iRoyalty


According to you, unless you are an American of European descent.

Then you are a descendant of immigrants, and so do not have the right to defend your nation from invaders, or claim that your ancestor founded this nation, apparently they were still immigrants.

Well, it seems these days that the only people who have a right to defend their territory are people in third world nations. Anyone in a first world nation against immigration is some kind of NAZI.

reply to post by iRoyalty

edit on 9-3-2014 by iRoyalty because: Nevermind!

:-)

You should still come see our great nation - this thread isn't really a fair representation of our reality

We have the original Disneyland

And also, the Grand Canyon

csulli456
reply to post by Nyiah

 

Tough talk from your keyboard..

2 can play...

I guarantee you a swift ass kicken at the very least if you dare lay hands on a proud American for defending our American flag.

I for one do not agree with so much of what goes on these days in regards to politics and all the bs, but I for one along with many others see our American flag as a symbol of freedom and liberty. I respect the flag as this is what it represents to me regardless of whatever sh!# ain't right within our borders at this current time.

We have become too politically correct to the point we disrespect our own selves.
This man represents a dying generation of people who are honorable and respectful.

How dare you say what you did. It's because of people with the ideals of this man that you didn't say it in German.

Oh the irony.

'Symbol of freedom'......unless of course it's the freedom to tie a cheap nylon flag to a piece of string.

To quote BBC Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson 'In some parts of America they've actually started mating with vegetables'

poet1b
reply to post by alldaylong

 

A colony is not a country.

You don't immigrate to a colony, you join a colony.

The names stayed the same, but their status changed from colony to state.

edit on 9-3-2014 by poet1b because: reply to second post on same concept.

A colony or state, it doesn't matter what you call them. They are still a part of your country. The 13 stripes honour that fact. If the USA wanted a complete break from the past why put stripes on a flag, and keep state names that were given by The British.
You may have noticed that was once called Palestine is now called The State Of Israel. Notice the name change.

reply to post by Battleline


Cultures evolve and change or they die.
We in the UK have had many cultures come over here for way over a thousand years and lend a bit of their culture into the British culture, it has for many years and what has made us great.
Anger? tell me why Iam angry because Iam not.
Please don't make this into a USA v Brit thing because it isn't.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


Most Americans never owned slaves, and they were their own cheap labor source.

The cheap immigrant labor was brought over to undermine wages and rights of the people already living here, then as well as now.

Our civilization, as in all of us. I never claimed that this was not collective.

I never claimed that the pioneers did it all on their own, just the opposite.

God forbid you should ever have to give any credit to the people who founded the US, and that is your arrogance.

reply to post by buster2010


Your quote was a breath of fresh air in your statement that "the flag stands for sacrifice's made past, present and in the future to protect our freedoms " , I guess it was your statement, if it was part of the fed law you quoted thanks anyway.

This is something that people living in progressive socialist country's that have already lost most of there freedom could never understand explaining the America bashing fixation on what the vet did in a moment of emotional patriotism........legally wrong or not.

poet1b
reply to post by iRoyalty

 

According to you, unless you are an American of European descent.

Then you are a descendant of immigrants, and so do not have the right to defend your nation from invaders, or claim that your ancestor founded this nation, apparently they were still immigrants.

Well, it seems these days that the only people who have a right to defend their territory are people in third world nations. Anyone in a first world nation against immigration is some kind of NAZI.

No no no, I'm saying if you ARE of European descent then you ARE an immigrant and the USA was most certainly build on white ENGLISH immigrants. Why no love for the brown ones?

Also I'm English, me and my family are patriots and we have every right to defend our country and have done so through out all the wars. My point is that we were all immigrants once, even you, so if you truly believe that we should not be able to fight for our country then neither should you, since I'm assuming you're not a native american (indian)

Whilst I believe immigration should be stopped in the UK, jobs are hard enough to find for everyone already here, I think it should be embraced. Immigration has helped build every great nation, the only place that doesn't allow immigration is North Korea... you think they got it good?

poet1b
reply to post by Spiramirabilis

 

Most Americans never owned slaves, and they were their own cheap labor source.

This wasn't because of virtue, it was because they were too poor to own them. Most Americans still spat in their faces when they walked past them.

reply to post by poet1b


Save it poet - for someone who didn't read what you wrote:

This claim that immigrants built this country is simply not true.

It was built by all of us - from the beginning to now

No one is living here in someone's civilization anonymously - this country belongs to all of us

reply to post by alldaylong


I don't see your point.

And the people who call themselves Palestinians are actually Arabs, and before it was Palestine it was Israel.

After the US revolution, the colonies became the US, and each retained its own identity as a state, not a colony.

poet1b
reply to post by alldaylong

 

I don't see your point.

And the people who call themselves Palestinians are actually Arabs, and before it was Palestine it was Israel.

After the US revolution, the colonies became the US, and each retained its own identity as a state, not a colony.

So why are 6 of your States still called NEW ENGLAND?

Strange one that

reply to post by Battleline


There you go again thinking people are bashing the USA no one is.
Just wondering which freedoms do you have that I do not...apart from owning handguns (which the public wanted btw).

reply to post by iRoyalty

No no no, I'm saying if you ARE of European descent then you ARE an immigrant and the USA was most certainly build on white ENGLISH immigrants. Why no love for the brown ones?

My ancestors were born here in the US before it was founded as a nation, they were not immigrants to the US. The colonized North America. There is a definite differences. Just as the Spanish colonized Mexico.

I don't know where you get the comment on the "brown ones" Because I see the US flag as a symbol of liberty, that means I am a bigot?

Your true colors are coming out. Clearly, in your own mind, you are so superior to us.

poet1b
reply to post by iRoyalty

 

No no no, I'm saying if you ARE of European descent then you ARE an immigrant and the USA was most certainly build on white ENGLISH immigrants. Why no love for the brown ones?

My ancestors were born here in the US before it was founded as a nation, they were not immigrants to the US. The colonized North America. There is a definite differences. Just as the Spanish colonized Mexico.

I don't know where you get the comment on the "brown ones" Because I see the US flag as a symbol of liberty, that means I am a bigot?

If your ancestors truly where born in the 13 Colonies then they where British Subjects.

reply to post by Spiramirabilis


But according to you, the people who founded the US get no credit, only the immigrants.

You join your British buddy in call the founders a bunch of bigots and slavers who couldn't have succeeded with out immigrants.

I get it, according to you,

My ancestors were dogs, and yours were saints.