It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: cosmonova
Agreed but these guys need to have counter weapons to kill off the shelling of the cities by artillery and mortar.
This is not good for the morale of the people and fighters. War is costing Kiev roughly $3 million a day and that means mere $1B and they can fight for nearly a year. It can all the while do lots of damage to cities and industries in the eastern regions.
Russia, Ukraine and the EU have failed to reach an agreement during gas talks in Brussels. Negotiations will continue on Tuesday or Wednesday, EU Energy Commissioner Guenther Oettinger said after the fifth round of the three-party talks.
Oettinger specified that there are some remaining open issues and different positions between the parties.
He indicated that talks will continue tomorrow as Ukrainian and Russian delegates talk with their governments and decide if they want to continue the negotiations.
"The talks will continue either Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning," Commission spokeswoman Sabine Berger told Reuters.
Russia, Ukraine and the EU for the first time discussed the price for the supplied Russian gas to Ukraine, including payments for June-August, Russia's Energy Minister Aleksandr Novak said after the three-party gas talks ended.
Russia has proposed "a very constructive plan, which we believe all stakeholders could and should accept,” Novak said, including the repayment schedules for the remaining debt Ukraine owes Gazprom.
$1.454 billion of Ukraine’s undisputed debt to Gazprom remains unpaid. This is the debt for Russian gas delivered to Ukraine in November and December of 2013.
The parties discussed repayments for the past November-December supplies, Novak said, adding that the need to pay back $1.451 billion by June 10 remains unchanged, as well as the partial repayment of $500 million debt accumulated for April and May.
Earlier on Monday, Ukraine’s energy and coal industry minister Yury Prodan said Kiev will pay the debt for Russian gas after the new gas price is confirmed.
Gazprom says Ukraine owes it $4.46 billion in unpaid bills and is running up more debt at a rate of more than $1 billion per month. Meanwhile, Kiev says its debt for 2013 and 2014 as of April 1 stood at $2.2 billion. It paid $786 million last week which covered the gas supplied in the first quarter of this year.
Ukraine receives about half of its natural gas from the Russian energy giant, and about 16 percent of Europe’s annual demand passes through Ukrainian pipelines.
A compromise agreement reached in May was broken by Kiev after it failed to repay $2 billion to Gazprom. The second part of that deal included another $500 million to be paid no later than June 7.
On Monday, Aleksey Miller said that Gazprom will wait another seven days for the debt to be paid in full before it switches Kiev to a prepayment system for natural gas.
originally posted by: ALoveSupreme
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: victor7
The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from Russia, not the West.
Have to disagree.
The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from is from, the west and that can be seen just in there behavior towards Russia and there own puppet controlled own states trough the way they were behaving on DDay.
If not the paranoia from the west can been seen and noticed in the western news outlets.
Are you by chance posting from St. Petersburg? You know the PR consultancies have many more offices these days. If you do not like it here in Dubai, I am sure you could find one in Hurghada. I hear it is lovely there but sadly I am incapable of return.
I suppose I might not consider Russian state-controlled media paranoid if it were not for all these relentless exposes on RT regarding old Cold War contingencies by the west -- like this one on 'Gladio', a supposed NATO contingency to kill leftist political candidates in Europe.
Are you by chance posting from St. Petersburg? You know the PR consultancies have many more offices these days. If you do not like it here in Dubai
like this one on 'Gladio', a supposed NATO contingency to kill leftist political candidates in Europe.
I suppose I might not consider Russian state-controlled media paranoid if it were not for all these relentless exposes on RT
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Agent_USA_Supporter
Everything out of Putin's mouth is west this, NATO expansion that. How many decades have NATO nations been on Russia's border? During those decades how many times have their been issues with NATO / individual nation forces?
To all of a sudden, after 20 years, start talking about Poland and the Baltic states being a part of NATO, having issues with Ukraine and the EU, he sure looks paranoid from this side of the fence.
Its not western / NATO forces that are breaching Russian airspace. Russia started that dog and pony show about 2 years ago and have stepped it up since.
Putin was paranoid about losing access to the Ukraine naval facilities in Crimea. As for the media comment what does it say when all external media sources / sources of information are not allowed to be broadcast? IF the Russian people are as supportive of Putin and his actions as claimed, why is there a need to stop all foreign media reports / refusal to allow Russian sites to criticize Putin's actions?
Aren't the Russian people intelligent enough to determine if the non Russian sources are valid or propaganda?
That's what I am seeing anyways.
if you don't mind can you layout what you are seeing from your side of the fence about the west being paranoid?
How many decades have NATO nations been on Russia's border?
Text
As for the media comment what does it say when all external media sources / sources of information are not allowed to be broadcast?
Russia started that dog and pony show about 2 years ago and have stepped it up since.
Putin was paranoid about losing access to the Ukraine naval facilities in Crimea.
why is there a need to stop all foreign media reports / refusal to allow Russian sites to criticize Putin's actions?
Aren't the Russian people intelligent enough to determine if the non Russian sources are valid or propaganda?
if you don't mind can you layout what you are seeing from your side of the fence about the west being paranoid?
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
originally posted by: ALoveSupreme
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: victor7
The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from Russia, not the West.
Have to disagree.
The only paranoia and fear I see is coming from is from, the west and that can be seen just in there behavior towards Russia and there own puppet controlled own states trough the way they were behaving on DDay.
If not the paranoia from the west can been seen and noticed in the western news outlets.
Are you by chance posting from St. Petersburg? You know the PR consultancies have many more offices these days. If you do not like it here in Dubai, I am sure you could find one in Hurghada. I hear it is lovely there but sadly I am incapable of return.
I suppose I might not consider Russian state-controlled media paranoid if it were not for all these relentless exposes on RT regarding old Cold War contingencies by the west -- like this one on 'Gladio', a supposed NATO contingency to kill leftist political candidates in Europe.
Are you by chance posting from St. Petersburg? You know the PR consultancies have many more offices these days. If you do not like it here in Dubai
insult post there but i am amused nor surprised as your post reminds me of the recent trolls on the Guardian, that are currently defending your beloved Ukrainian fascists and your beloved terrorists that your country is supporting in Syria and were in Libya.
If i were posting from St. Petersburg, Moscow where's my money then? i know what your trying to do with that insult post, and its not going to work here.
like this one on 'Gladio', a supposed NATO contingency to kill leftist political candidates in Europe.
Gladio was an well known Operation by NATO to kill leftist political candidates in Europe.
I suppose I might not consider Russian state-controlled media paranoid if it were not for all these relentless exposes on RT
I am quite recent the BBC is all nothing but a fair news outlet and its not an British state-controlled media nor is CNN,FOXNews,ABC, Euro News and all of them are reporting with honesty and truth.
Don't make me laugh.
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: dragonridr
I am quite sure eizvestia is reliable just as al jazeera.
Hes going to regret that eventually as they gain more and more power in Russia. As they say play with fire and your likely to get burned.
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: dragonridr
I am quite sure eizvestia is reliable just as al jazeera.
You forgot to include RT in there as well they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over. Yet oddly you dont question their coverage wonder why???
as well they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over.
Yet oddly you dont question their coverage wonder why???
they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over.
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: dragonridr
I am quite sure eizvestia is reliable just as al jazeera.
You forgot to include RT in there as well they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over. Yet oddly you dont question their coverage wonder why???
as well they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over.
Nice copying and pasting i am not amused.
Yet oddly you dont question their coverage wonder why???
Yet oddly you dont question the coverage of western mainstream news outlets i wonder why is that maybe because you seem them as the holy grail of Truth News.
You forgot to include RT
"Because its Russian that means they are Lying Right?
they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over.
Are you going to assume me with that NeoCon Anchor whom defected back to an NeoCon News Site to now?
Paul Roderick Gregory Contributor has being crying fool over Russia Today since 2007. And his an NeoCon Contributor supporter of GW Bush.
Are Russian citizens allowed to question what Putin is doing?
Has Putin responded to that criticism with facts to support justification?
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: Xcathdra
Are Russian citizens allowed to question what Putin is doing?
Has Putin responded to that criticism with facts to support justification?
When all you see is what Putin wants you to see, you really can't criticize what you don't know.
Without outside media to show the lies they believe he is justified in his actions.
It really is sad.
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — On paper, the Ukrainian trading firm known as Mistral dealt in management consulting and research, doing millions of dollars' worth of deals before going bust after Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was chased out of office earlier this year.
But when police recently tried to visit Mistral's Kiev office at No. 12 Saperne Pole Street, they found a huge hole in the ground, the foundation of an apartment complex to be completed next year. There was no trace of Mistral, whose name refers to a type of wind.
A receptionist at No. 5 on that street said there used to be a wine warehouse at the site, but it was cleared when construction began in 2011. Apartment numbers now jump from 9 to 22.
Officials tasked with cleaning the country's corruption-scarred tax system say the company didn't merely enter the wrong address. They say Mistral may never have existed in the first place — one of scores or even hundreds of phantom firms suspected of squeezing a total of 130 billion hryvnias ($11 billion) from Kiev's coffers over the past three years. The country's total tax revenue amounted to 210 billion hryvnias ($17.8 billion) in 2013.
Some 30 investigations are now underway, and a few companies have been raided, but the country's top tax official contends his predecessors were part of the fraud, which is why many phantom firms acted with impunity.
"They didn't care about the police, the security services. Nobody was checking," Deputy Tax Minister Ihor Bilous told The Associated Press in an interview at his Kiev office last month. "That's why this cancer ... spread over the whole country."
Outside experts support Bilous' claims, and documents reviewed by the AP — including tax records, a list of alleged phantom companies drawn up by a Ukrainian anti-corruption group, and data from the business intelligence website Arachnys — echo his description of a wide-ranging scheme.
Bilous' assertions are "very hard not to agree with," said Anna Derevyanko, the director of the Kiev-based European Business Association. "Basically whatever field you are touching, it was corrupt in the territory of Ukraine."
Tax fraud has long been a problem here, and reforming the country's revenue system is a key challenge faced by the newly elected administration of Petro Poroshenko, who was sworn in Saturday as Ukrainian president. For now, Ukraine's budget is being held together with the help of a $17 billion IMF loan package; Bilous says he's proposing a series of changes to the country's parliament in a bid to put the country on a firmer financial footing.
The success of those reforms may hinge on whether the country can exorcise its phantom firms, fake companies which have long been used by legitimate businesses to reduce their tax bills.
According to officials and insiders, here's how it worked: A business pretended to buy goods or services from the phantom firm but, instead of delivering on the deal, the fake company secretly returned the money in cash, reducing the real company's tax liability in return for a cut of the money.
Some 1,700 legitimate businesses were in on the scam, according to the ministry, which flushed them out by identifying 100 to 120 phantom companies and tracking who was at the other end of their deals.
Getting in on the scam slashed tax bills dramatically. One home appliance importer used phantom partners to whittle its tax obligations down to $85,000 a month, according to ministry figures. Once it dropped the tactic, its payments jumped tenfold.
Read more: www.businessinsider.com...
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Agent_USA_Supporter
a reply to: dragonridr
I am quite sure eizvestia is reliable just as al jazeera.
You forgot to include RT in there as well they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over. Yet oddly you dont question their coverage wonder why???
as well they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over.
Nice copying and pasting i am not amused.
Yet oddly you dont question their coverage wonder why???
Yet oddly you dont question the coverage of western mainstream news outlets i wonder why is that maybe because you seem them as the holy grail of Truth News.
You forgot to include RT
"Because its Russian that means they are Lying Right?
they're the ones thats been caught lying over and over.
Are you going to assume me with that NeoCon Anchor whom defected back to an NeoCon News Site to now?
Paul Roderick Gregory Contributor has being crying fool over Russia Today since 2007. And his an NeoCon Contributor supporter of GW Bush.
Has nothing to do with any western anchor not sure what your talking about. See in western media Ukraine is a minor blip on there radar unlike Russian media. Now feel free to report any lies from CNN or any other western news agency but you have alot of ground to make up since Russian propaganda is caught in lies daily at this point.So its rather ironic not to mention funny you claiming the west is wrong using Russian media as your source. Its kind of like claiming theirs dragons and using fairy tales to prove it. If your source has made up stories and shown to be unreliable you cant use that as proof of anything.
Ps neo cons arent in charge just one more lie Putins spreading just like Nazis arent in control in Kiev. Just because you say it doesnt make it true see Nazis disappeared after world war two. But to Russians there stuck in that era so anyone who disagrees with them are Nazis. The Us went through this with communists they were everywhere truth is it was nothing more than paranoia then as it is now with Russia.
Has nothing to do with any western anchor not sure what your talking about. See i
But to Russians there stuck in that era so anyone who disagrees with them are Nazis. The Us went through this with communists they were everywhere truth is it was nothing more than paranoia then as it is now with Russia.
If your source has made up stories and shown to be unreliable you cant use that as proof of anything.