ALL MEMBERS, "BASHAR = HOAX Forum" on ATS

reply to post by thedoctorswife


He brought this on himself with the constant spamming. I initially had the decency to hear him out and debate the topic with him but it got to the point where all logic was lost. It got to the point where he was beginning to call others idiots who didn't partake in the charade. Daryl Anka is a fraud. Nothing more than an actor preying on the naive. And Kauskau was beginning to turn the topic into a cult. The owners did the right thing.

The new age is a haven for frauds.

The new age university that Basiago, Weber and Eisenhower tried to get off the ground. If that had got off the ground you would have had Bashar giving lectures and handing out degrees. Have any of these people no shame?

Mabye the new age phrase is code for Scammers at work. ?

Among chanelers Bashar is probably the best there is. So if he is considered a "Hoax" might as well move ALL channeling to Hoax. And on that note, why not move the entire Paranormal Forum to Hoax? And all the UFO and Conspiracy Forums as well?

You see what I`m saying. Whether channeling is a hoax or not is just as contested as many other topics on ATS. And unless this is a skeptics Forum, this stuff doesnt belong to "Hoax". At least not while completely value-less threads on Martian Rocks are allowed to stay.

reply to post by Skyfloating


All channelers should be in Hoax. !

reply to post by Unity_99

No its just what the fundamentalists and those who hold this horror world in place by keeping their minds in the machine, what they don't like, that gets hoaxed.

But surely, you don't believe everyone who makes wild claims do you? I'm sure even you have drawn a proverbial line in the sand at some point.

reply to post by Skyfloating


Just as soon as someone proves that somebody proves that someone is planting 3-D printed fake rocks on Mars we'll move those too.

SKYFLOATING: You see what I`m saying. Whether channeling is a hoax or not is just as contested as many other topics on ATS. And unless this is a skeptics Forum, this stuff doesnt belong to "Hoax". At least not while completely value-less threads on Martian Rocks are allowed to stay.

CHIRAM: Your comments surprise me. In the case of Blossom Goodchild (Hoaxer/Channeler) this would be justified. I think the hoax has to be evalued as to its destructive effect on the general public, pulling gullible people in for monetary gain, driving people to their websites/books etc. As for the value-less threads on Martian Rocks, if they are a hoax and can be proven as Springer says – then off to the hoax bin also.

I don’t think anyone has mentioned Edward ‘Maggador’ Alexander on here, the “Pleiadian alien who goes public” what a joke. Definitely needs consigning to the hoax bin. He was using ATS (and other forums) to link to his plethora of websites and generate money via Adsense links. Still on the internet with his merry-go-round of scams. Still using ATS to link to his threads on here. Still sneaks back here under a different user name trying to re-post his S#@% - until he gets the ban hammer again.

Getting back to Channeling/Hoaxers In my opinion it all boils down to how ATS wants to handle it, but in this instance I commend Springer for taking the right steps over Bashar and “no more”. Believe me these hoaxers will come back time and time again because its free advertising and generates a lot of interest on the internet, even when its undesirable material.

ATHLONSAVAGE: All channelers should be in Hoax.

CHIRAM: Couldn’t agree with you more. Channeling is a “New Age” term that was previously called “Mediumship” I think the new agers changed the name because the bible condemns and expressly forbids the practice of Mediums, fortune telling, and prophesy etc. (Deuteronomy 18:9-12).

I’ve included a snippet of a Channeler K.C. MacRoberts and the Voice of Ram Dash from a website (below) because its hilarious:

The TV camera zooms in tight on the squinting eyes and pleading lips of K.C. MacRoberts. He is beseeching viewers for large donations. But it isn't MacRoberts speaking: It's the stilted voice of Ram Dash, a disembodied entity from the 27th Ray, using MacRoberts as a mouthpiece:

"Indeed, that which is called money in your plane of existence is necessary in order for me to keep manifesting through the medium of television, as you call it. Putting it simply, darlin's you create my own reality; we need $8 million from the lot of you by the end of the month of March, as you reckon it, to keep me on the air. Otherwise, blessed ones, the great Keeper of the Karma will call me home from your realm of consciousness, as it were, and recycle me into a three-toed sloth. Indeed!" SOURCE:

wow..
ats showing its real face..



In the thread you qouted springer. NOTHING WAS DEBUNKED AT ALL. It is based totally on misconceptions of HOW CHANNELING WORKS.

This is censorship in its purest form!

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


well said...

This means you can create a thread to discuss the THEORY and his INFORMATION all you'd like. We simply will not be tolerating members, passing around a perceived charlatan's 'stories' as fact.

This the distinction.

~Tenth

wow
wow

WOOOOW


As a german i am truly remembering history classes when censhorship in nazi times were discussed. YOu act like it would be kind of "tolerant" to still "discuss the ideas of THE charlatan"....


AS IF IT WAS PROVEN THAT HE IS A CHARLATAN. But the only thread ON ATS trying to debunk bashar does that with TOTALLY WRONG concepts about channeling.
CHanneling does not work with words..so as a cheap radio can not give you subwoofer sounds even if the bass frequency of the song is heavy and rich....and a human with only one language can only "translate" in english like a "poor radio".... CHANNELING IS A TRANSLATION!!!!!

for #s sake.

Bashar is not proven to be a hoax and he is not proven to be real....


NORMALLy things like that should be in the grey forum...


Censorship. Period.

reply to post by kauskau


Bashar is phoney deal with it

reply to post by FlySolo


thats not what he said: he said the brain waves stayed relative to each other but became much higher. So thats not a contradiction. He even says he is in a awake state but not really in control. It is like sitting on a passenger seat in a car not having to drive.

But wait until this year. The bashar documentary will explain that in depth (i think the will show the eeg)

and they will show what is happening in darryls "wake dreams" while channeling ( with special effects by the visual artists of "life of pi"...will be interesting )

Mr Mask

thedoctorswife
reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation

 

I just THANK GOD that there's people out there taking the responsibility away from me as to what information I find interesting or valuable from a curious brains point of view,or not, and I'm just SO PROUD that ats is the website that proved bashar is a hoax . Happy days
ps the above was sprinkled with a heavy dose of sarcasm . Not a happy day , a bad day.

ATS didn't prove it. Countless sources have.

And finally Bashar is being labeled correctly here. I assume it took this long only because the Three Amigos wanted to keep peace between the rational and the gullible. But thank the internet-Gods this is finally done.

I am happy with this.

Hugs.

MM

which sources have????? show me one! ONE SOURCE that debunked bashar......

There is not PROOF existing that bashar is a hoax...
Not one "ex member" of darryls team (in 30 years) coming to the forefront, saying that this is all a big lie.

Not one "ex-wife" of darryl saying that he is a money hungry hoaxer.. Not one serious Scientist who contradicts bashars theories...
Not one "contradiction" in bashars concepts itself..


You don´t know one "source"..You are lying.
Why are you lying?

Springer
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

Just as soon as someone proves that somebody proves that someone is planting 3-D printed fake rocks on Mars we'll move those too.

so which argument is here that proofs bashar is a hoax?

I didn´t see it.

The only thing i saw was a thread with a wrong theory: -> "real channeling" should enable someone to speak all languages that exist on planet earth even if the "transmitter" does not know the language"

Its just your personal taste which lets you put in the hoax forum. And thats what censorship really is.

Grey forum would have been the only right choice until there is REAL Proof for the one or the other direction.


A sad day for ats. But you will know that this was a sad day for ats when disclosure happens. Because bashars civilisation is the third civilisation that will come and CHANNELING is on ALL LEVELS the first step of making contact. Its the lightest touch. They will not interfer with our free will. ANd ats shows that we are not ready for open contact, the phoenix lights showed it ....many things show it.


ATS is not the leading edge of progression as we can clearly see.

But i have no problem posting it in the hoax forum. I don´t need springer and ats to believe in this. Because i KNOW that this is real. And this a reason for celebration in my life everyday...

good day to you

reply to post by kauskau


Once again, please perform the thought experiment I have proposed elsewhere. Imagine "Bashar's " ramblings written down in a book. Instead of claiming to be a wise extra-terrestrial, the author of the book claims to be an ordinary retired businessman. Would you find the book compelling reading? No.

reply to post by Springer


Couldn't agree more.

And well done on the use of the word bollocks.

It's not used enough in my opinion. Gets the job done cleanly and succinctly. Sort of SAS of descriptions.

chiram

CHIRAM: Your comments surprise me.

They surprise you? Do you know me? Have we talked before?

Channeling is not a Hoax to me.Blossom Goodchild is a hoax to me. But I understand that its too much asked to make a distinction between every single chaneller that comes along. And I agree that stealth marketing presents a problem to online discussion forums and that that is what is being addressed here.

reply to post by DJW001


yes i would...
I studied different "truth disciplines" from many different cultures through many years..... Bashar is the absolute compression of many many though disciplines.....
Its clear as a mountain see...

But i understand that the "way it is packaged" makes it murky for some. This will change when our society expands to the possibility that channeling is a phenomenon that exists beyond that parameters of it being a hoax.

This possibility is snowballing right now. So i am patient.

reply to post by kauskau


Why not try this? If you really feel that Bashar has some sort of wisdom that people need to hear, why not start a thread in the Metaphysics Forum that expresses it using your own words. That way, the wisdom gets spread and you won't get accused of viral marketing.