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Originally posted by Jay-morris
You really think this rape case is not BS?. Its a complete joke! and an excuse to get him into sweden then America. Did you read about the case and what the two women have said?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
1 - You have NO NEED to know about every diplomatic thing that goes on. That's the whole point of diplomacy. GIve and take .. let one country 'save face' and get things done, etc.
2 - What has been released is NOT earthshattering. We already knew that there was spying and backroom deals. He hasn't exposed anything that is prosecutable. Not really.
3 - Earthshattering would be something like .... The UFO incident in Chicago; proof that the gov't covered it up and intimidated witness'. THAT would be earthshattering. Not .. gee .. the UN was spied on. That's just a DUH!
Originally posted by paraffin]
reply to post by research
Why is British justice a joke? Regardless of the political circus going on, Mr Assange is wanted by Swedish authorities to answer some allegations. Not giving him bail is probably appropriate as there is no guarantee he won't bugger off elsewhere.
Like it or lump it, the allegations against Mr Assange are serious.
Originally posted by paraphi
Originally posted by Jay-morris
You really think this rape case is not BS?. Its a complete joke! and an excuse to get him into sweden then America. Did you read about the case and what the two women have said?
Is it bull#e?
The women have made allegations against Assange and these were made before the recent furore. Whether you agree with the content of the allegations which are “rape, molestation and unlawful coercion, involving two women”, as reported by the BBC is irrelevant, because that’s the law in the Sweden. The British authorities are merely executing their obligations under a European arrest warrant. He will get a fair and independent hearing by the British courts and I have not suspicions about Swedish motives.
There is no evidence that if Assange is handed over to Swedish authorities (doubtlessly following months of legal wrangling in the UK) that the Swedes will hand him over the US authorities. Firstly, he will have to face the charges in Sweden and secondly the US will need to charge him with something and Swedish courts are independent. Have the US charged him yet? Will they? Probably not.
Like I said, he may be guilty of the sexual offences which the Swedish authorities want him for. The problem here is that he may get away with it because of his situation and the fact he will play the “conspiracy” card. Alternatively, he may be innocent and the women being mischievous. Due legal process should be allowed to run its course.
Regards
Originally posted by paraphi
reply to post by mackey1224uk
The charges for which Assange is wanted for interview are serious. If it took Swedish authorities to build a body of evidence then that's legal process for you. If he is innocent / guilty then the only way to find out is to follow legal process through.
However, just because he's news and being a bit annoying to the US does not - and should not - mean that he should escape due process under the excuse that "they were out to get him".
Regards
Originally posted by Jay-morris
reply to post by ChaosMagician
It is a complete joke to be honest!
Originally posted by babybunnies
reply to post by researchit
No, it isn't. Mr Assange was offered bail, and HE refused it.
A judge at City of Westminster Magistrates' Court refused bail because of the risk of the 39-year-old fleeing.
Originally posted by paraphi
reply to post by ChaosMagician
Who is to say that the two women involved are not victims of a real crime. You don't know. Let due legal process determine Assange's innocence or guilt.
Regards
Originally posted by babybunnies
reply to post by researchit
No, it isn't. Mr Assange was offered bail, and HE refused it.
The founder of whistle-blowing website Wikileaks, Julian Assange, has been refused bail by a court in London but vowed to fight extradition to Sweden.