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Originally posted by TruthAboveIgnorance
reply to post by oozyism
The empirical evidence presented are nifty little pictures Egyptians put on almost all of their structures. On top of that they actually kept records of their history, they were surprisingly good book keepers.
Sorry for any confusion, and please don't go down Oozyism's path of demanding to know when ignorance has led to people being easier to control... after all, this is being posted on a forum with the motto "deny ignorance", so isn't that sort of the point?
Originally posted by TruthAboveIgnorance
reply to post by SaturnFX
Your post is a perfect example of how belief in a god and the the belief in evolution could co-exist, within someones personal belief structure.
It's odd to me that for some this is almost as bad. Eg: Fundamental Creationists. Or people who take the bible, 100% literally.edit on 9-12-2010 by TruthAboveIgnorance because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by SaturnFX
If there is nothing to die for, then you have to figure out what there is to live for.
Some would call this love and enlightenment
wow are you sure you are not a Christian or a believer of something or other ? this sounds exactly like Christianity...
let's philosophize on morality for a few, and where these belief structures came from and who first started to write them down.
Human behavior flows from three main sources: desire, emotion, and knowledge.
The term empirical was originally used to refer to certain ancient Greek practitioners of medicine who rejected adherence to the dogmatic doctrines of the day, preferring instead to rely on the observation of phenomena as perceived in experience. Later empiricism referred to a theory of knowledge in philosophy which adheres to the principle that knowledge arises from experience and evidence gathered specifically using the senses. In scientific use the term empirical refers to the gathering of data using only evidence that is observable by the senses or in some cases using calibrated scientific instruments. What early philosophers described as empiricist and empirical research have in common is the dependence on observable data to formulate and test theories and come to conclusions.
Originally posted by TruthAboveIgnorance
reply to post by SaturnFX
Well said. I agree.
I was simply stating for the Christians, Creationists, and other Religious believers that your example is a form where the two could co-exist.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
You will find such "christian" values pre-dates christ by a very long time, found in civilizations that valued their scientists and philosophers.
Unlike Theistic Satanists, LaVeyan Satanists are Atheists, Agnostics and Apatheists who regard Satan as a symbol of man's inherent nature
I'm not sure if I believe in God or not but I lean towards not. I just see the problem being that it can't be proven either way, that we know of.
Originally posted by PhantomLimb
I do not believe that Creationism should be taught in school. Seeing as there are numerous amounts of religions and then even more numerous denominations/sects in those suggests it would only cause more trouble in schools.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact
Do some research before you type:
Unlike Theistic Satanists, LaVeyan Satanists are Atheists, Agnostics and Apatheists who regard Satan as a symbol of man's inherent nature
Satanism
There are many branches of Satanism and many Satanists ARE atheists. Very few Satanists are the spooky robed or cloaked figures of common cult-related folklore.
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
if they are going to push evolution as the new religion then an alternate view should be presented.
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
bzzt !
"Atheism, in a broad sense, is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities"
even the self is a deity and satan of which the said church is named after is a deity also.
Stories from the past can't be empirically proven nor denied, except through empirical evidence (stories are not empirical evidence). If data can be collected to support such stories, then I will accept the story, if not, then leave it alone.