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Originally posted by mnemeth1
Originally posted by pianopraze
Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Gazrok
It is illegal to kill yourself because that would be damaging State property.
Not as a civilian. But it is considered damaging government property if you are in the Army. I know fellow soldiers that were busted for getting sunburns.
Especially as a civilian.
You are the State's property.
You must be, otherwise they could not tell you what you can and can not consume.
You must be, otherwise they could not tell you that you can't hurt yourself.
You must be, otherwise they could not take the fruits of your labor from you by threats and force.
Originally posted by pianopraze
Actually you are confusing two issues.
There are no criminal laws against killing yourself, so technically it is not "illegal" to kill yourself.
What you are saying, and I agree to your postulate, is that the U.S. legal system assumes citizens to be property of the states from birth. Which is why we use the Maritime Law usage of capital letters in our name and legal documents have our names in all caps which creates an entity that the legal system can prosecute.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
Yes, it seems like a harmless combination until someone with an unknown heart condition takes it.
And before you all start screaming that a handful of people with undiagnosed heart condition or even a diagnosed one, should be able to dictate what you can drink, it is a different story when it is just chemicals that are simply being seperated.
Just like you can't buy a cleaner that has both bleach and ammonia. And no one is crying foul about that.
i believe in substances beign what they are. If you have a heart condition, you know you can't take certain things together, but you don't expect your vodka to have caffeine in it.
I see no harm in this.
Originally posted by WashingtonGrewHemp
I've had Jagermeister and red bull a few times. People seem to love that. Personally, I'm not a fan of mixing caffeine and alcohol, but people do it all the time and are usually fine. Cocaine and alcohol is another frequent mix. Also, nicotine is a stimulant and it goes superbly with alcohol. Nobody ever blames cigarettes for people getting sick, but I think they can definitely make you throw up because they're gnarly and disgusting Four Loco sounds gross, and I'd rather just have a beer. Not really sure why people are mad it is getting banned. There are plenty of other better ways to get inebriated. Did you know that some social scientists include getting inebriated as a top drive on the hierarchy of basic human needs?edit on 17-11-2010 by WashingtonGrewHemp because: missed a word
Originally posted by mnemeth1
Tell me socialists and other assorted totalitarians, what should my penalty be for offering consumers a product that combines caffeine and alcohol?
1 year in prison?
2 years?
How about they just shoot me in the head right there in the court room.
Originally posted by WashingtonGrewHemp
Not really sure why people are mad it is getting banned. There are plenty of other better ways to get inebriated.
Originally posted by Portugoal
reply to post by mnemeth1
The whole ban of certain beverages was because alcohol is a depressant and caffeine is a stimulant... The mix is dangerous. I don't think anyone sees caffeine as dangerous in itself.edit on 16-11-2010 by Portugoal because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mnemeth1
The actual reason behind the ban has nothing to do with "consumer safety" - and everything to do with keeping alcohol production cartelized.
The competition such products might create among vendors is a sin in our fascist economy.
Given that the FDA has found caffeine to be an unsafe food additive, you can look for its removal from Mt. Dew and Coke soon.
Originally posted by HollowJacket
but when its in a can the size of an Arizona ice tea and its %12 alcohol with as much caffeine as an energy drink, I mean people have to know what they are getting themselves into
In August, an 18-year-old in Palm Coast, Fla., died after drinking Four Loko in combination with diet pills. The following month, a 20-year-old in Tallahassee, Fla., started playing with a gun and fatally shot himself after drinking several cans of Four Loko over a number of hours.