The Holocaust happened - stop questioning it, please

Look up "The Day the Clown Cried"

Poor Mr. Lewis, at least only a handful of people have seen the film.

I find it hard to believe that the H. didn't happen. Of course I am OPEN to the POSSIBILITY that it didn't happen.

Of course I am sure some hateful remark will be made about that.

reply to post by the.lights


I had no part in the "holocaust" weather it happened or not it's out of my hands. I'm also not gonna blindly believe something people tell me without research. I'm not gonna blindly pedal a story to justify the genocide of Arabs in Palestine. That is a modern day holocaust which actually has proof. The holocaust is history I think 911 truth is alot bigger issue these days. Soon people will be getting locked up for 911 denial.

Who is saying the holocaust didn't happen is clearly a little mentally retarded wouldnt you say?
There are thousands of pictures videos, witniess (most are dead)

I know why people think its fake, because they simply didnt live during the time and as most humans think "if I didnt see it, it didnt happen" That is very flawed thinking, if its in a text book then IT HAPPENED. no matter what conspiracy you believe in, the holocaust happened and millions died.

If that is fake to you, then life is fake to you, and if nothing is real, then that gun in your hand isnt real, meaning if you point it at yourself and pull the trigger you will become god, because that is what your imagenary life sytle seems to aim for.

So if you believed everything i said and blew your brains out, then i did a favour for everyone, because those who cant tell what is real and what is imagenary are simply not needed in socitey and just cause probelms for everyone.

holocaust happned, get over it

reply to post by Anthony1138


Wow, I'm glad you cleared that up for me.

I guess I am open to the idea of being a retard!

(What an assy thing to say.)

reply to post by catwhoknows

It happened, back in the 40's. He killed
the Jews - he gassed them in ovens.

Try to see it from my point of view: you're asserting the reality of an event that allegedly happened before I was born in a place I've never been to people I don't know and have no emotional connection to.

Why should I believe it? Why should I find it important to believe in?

In my own life, I've found "question everything" to be a more useful philosophy than "hold onto other people's anger."

Could people please stop questioning this?

No. And try to understand that the more insistently you claim that it did happen, the more some people will question it. There are those of us who aren't entirely certain whether physical reality has objective validity outside of personal experience.

As such...asserting the validity of an event, like I said: before we were born to people we don't know in a place we've never seen, seems kind of silly by comparison.

reply to post by Anthony1138

if its in a text book then IT HAPPENED

In that case, animals can talk and pigs can not only fly, but they can build houses too.

catwhoknows, it is an extreme rarity that I would go out of my way with such a short-handed response; however desperate times call for desperate measures.

Upon extensive reviewing of this thread, I gather that you are likely between the ages of thirteen and eighteen.

Seeing as how SATs are around the corner, I suggest we review analogies. The SATs are riddled with them and it is always good to get in some practice.

catwhoknows is to productive discussion
as
Hitler is to humanity

Your topic is relevant, your stance is solid, your conviction is firm.
Your unwillingness to listen to others, lack of respect, and the absence of any maturity is disconcerting to say the least. The manner in which you have addressed the topic is pitiful. By approaching the ATS community in this manner, you have actually done more damage to your cause than you could ever hope to regain. While others reach out to you with open arms offering research assistance and guidance, you scold and mock them. You are making an ass out of not only yourself, but the ATS community, if I may speak so generally.

I am quite surprised that moderators allow this type of garbage to continue. catwhoknows does a piss-poor job of denying ignorance, and provides plenty of ammo for those who would argue that no valid and productive discussion takes place within this community. There are literally thousands of websites that harbor nonsensical rambling, those that I respect come to this community to escape delusion and trolling.

I would be on-board your discussion and helping to provide evidence on your behalf had you not come here with a proverbial chip on your shoulder. I also support those who would question the events of WWII and the Holocaust. Most do not argue against the wholesale slaughter of human beings taking place, most dispute the driving forces and body count. A very productive discussion could have taken place. Instead it is four pages of catwhoknows' egotism and childishness.

By the way, you should never cease to question anything. ANY VALID ARGUMENT only grows stronger in the face of questioning. That is debate/argumentative writing 101. Logic, check it out.


*edit to add*

Of course I am sure some hateful remark will be made about that.

Could not get that comment out of my head. Nobody here should feel like that, especially not a veteran member like adigregorio. You could tell me that extra-terrestrial dancing jesus won WWII, and as long as an enjoyable and productive discussion takes place, awesome!

Polite Reminder

Hi People,

Please can we focus on the post/s and not the poster/s.

This thread is not about the age or intelligence of any posters within it...lets not make that the topic of discussion.


Please keep it civil, and on-topic.


Thanks.

reply to post by Anthony1138


Like Use your brain suggested above, you people are not helping your cause. If your position were valid, examining it would confirm that. By attacking everyone who doesn't immediately agree with everything you say you're simply encouraging people to wonder why you're trying to hard to get people to believe the way you do without questioning it.

You know, I agree with you.

Although I disagree with not questioning what happened. The official story of anything should be closely researched and watched. We all know that history is written by the victor, and there's plenty of historical revisionism going on everywhere you look.

Enough to make me think twice about believing the "official" story.

Denying ignorance sometimes means analysing events and people that seem completely legitimate, and finding that they aren't as squeaky clean as we've been led to believe.

The holocaust however, certainly did happen. I've met enough veterans with scars, and enough who were imprisoned who have the tatoos to prove it.

~Keeper

I am sick and tired of people not questioning the holocaust.

Here is what happened - a crazed leader of the nazis wanted to deport all the Jews he could find, and all the gypsies he could find, and all the homosexuals he could find.

And Hollywood created the holocaust. It happened, back in the 70's. They showed Jews getting killed - they gassed them in ovens.

Could people please start questioning this?

P.S. I'll put evidence up when you put evidence up for your claims.

reply to post by catwhoknows


A holocaust also happened to the Native Americans that makes the act to which you refer look like child's play.

Just out of curiosity. . .

Why do you refer to this particular act that happened in the 40's as "the" holocaust.

Is it more of a holocaust than what is currently happening.

You know. . .

The holocaust that is currently happening to the many Arabs in Gaza and Iraq.

I understand your frustration.

Clearer Request

Hi Again,


I have requested that people focus on the post and not the poster.

I have requested that people remain on-topic.

Lets keep it civil and on-topic from now on.


At present I have merely editted out the bits that were seen as uncivil or off-topic, as I am aware the subject matter can often raise peoples emotions and thus their responses.
These actions have attracted no Warns or point-penalties.

Further occurances however will.


Thank you.

reply to post by catwhoknows

I'M SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT GERMANY STARTED WWI.

Now that i got that out time to discuss your topic.

Umm... I'm pretty sure they weren't gassed in ovens. Some might have died in decontamination chambers that show little signs of zyklon b, but the bodies were disposed of in ovens and finally buried.

Another point is that "most" of the camps were in Poland and I'm also pretty sure Russia controlled most of it.

Hitler just wanted to expel the Jews and his generals decide to start killing them.

Prior to WWII the English promised the holy land to both the Jews and the Palestinians

Have you ever heard of the Japanese interment camps that had patriots of the first world war.

Zionist in Russia killed more Ukrainians then victims in the holocaust. Why not attack the socialist while you're at it.

Jews were used for the war machine until the allies bombed out the supply trains, starving the "labor camps"

Ask who financed the Third Reich. American money built that monster along with European powers blaming them for WWI and changing the terms of the surrender.

The official number of Jews killed in the Holocaust has dropped significantly since the end of WWII.

(Off topic a little but just want to put it out there; Why did Russia after WWII take over all of Poland except the coast? Which in most peoples opinion is the more valuable part of most countrys. A lot of slave labor was used by the Germans to hide stuff deep in the mountains of Poland. Think project Paper clip and the rocket race, both sides scouring post WWII Germany for rockets and the scientist who made them. Russia was using Hal thrusters way before us. Imagine what technologies were hidden in those mountains cosidering the rocket that were out in the open were ten years ahead of our technology?)




"History is the lie that everyone agrees upon" and is usually decided by the winning side.

Originally posted by catwhoknows
I am sick and tired of people questioning the holocaust.

Here is what happened - a crazed leader of the nazis killed all the Jews he could find, and all the gypsies he could find, and all the homosexuals he could find.

And he created the holocaust. It happened, back in the 40's. He killed the Jews - he gassed them in ovens.

Could people please stop questioning this?

actually, a lot of Nazis were openly homosexual.

and while i think the rest is true, i think there's more to it than that. including the jewish elite possibly betraying their own, innocent people. did you know the rothschilds were against allowing Jewish refugees in?