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Originally posted by sirnex
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
digestive.niddk.nih.gov...
www.colitis-crohns.com...
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[url=http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/pelvic-inflammatory-000124.htm]http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/pelvic-inflammatory-000124.htm
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Not sure what the required link number is to stem any possible whining about link numbers. Is this good for now?
Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
Ah I understand now.
I am not as well versed in the language of biology as you, but I will share what I have been taught...
In otherwise healthy people, the only problems I know of (off the top of my head) with animal protein arise when it is over consumed. Specifically there is an acidic byproduct produced when digesting animal protein. In order to neutralize and excrete this acid, calcium is leeched out of the bones. I also think gout is related to this process.
This is one of the reasons I decided to cut animal protein out of my diet, but I don't believe all meat is inherently unhealthy.
Factory farmed/corn fed/hormone pumped/etc. meat however.. but that is a different matter.
Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by whitewave
What do you know about those HCG drops?
That is what I am starting very soon and
thought I would ask for your opinion.
Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
Ah I understand now.
I am not as well versed in the language of biology as you, but I will share what I have been taught...
In otherwise healthy people, the only problems I know of (off the top of my head) with animal protein arise when it is over consumed. Specifically there is an acidic byproduct produced when digesting animal protein. In order to neutralize and excrete this acid, calcium is leeched out of the bones. I also think gout is related to this process.
Like other gonadotropins, hCG can be extracted from ... the urine of pregnant women. Ovidrel, on the other hand, is a product of recombinant DNA.
Minnesota Starvation Experiment
Among the many conclusions from the study was the confirmation that prolonged semi-starvation produces significant increases in depression, hysteria and hypochondriasis as measured using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI), a standardized test administered during the experimental period. Indeed, most of the subjects experienced periods of severe emotional distress and depression. There were extreme reactions to the psychological effects during the experiment including self-mutilation (one subject amputated three fingers of his hand with an axe, though the subject was unsure if he had done so intentionally or accidentally).[1] Participants exhibited a preoccupation with food, both during the starvation period and the rehabilitation phase. Sexual interest was drastically reduced and the volunteers showed signs of social withdrawal and isolation. The participants reported a decline in concentration, comprehension and judgment capabilities, although the standardized tests administered showed no actual signs of diminished capacity. There were marked declines in physiological processes indicative of decreases in each subject’s basal metabolic rate (the energy required by the body in a state of rest) and reflected in reduced body temperature, respiration and heart rate. Some of the subjects exhibited edema (swelling) in the extremities, presumably due to the massive quantities of water the participants consumed attempting to fill their stomachs during the starvation period.
Semi-Starvation Period (24 weeks): During the 6-month semi-starvation period, each subject’s dietary intake was cut to approximately 1,560 calories per day. Their meals were composed of foods that were expected to typify the diets of people in Europe during the latter stages of the war: potatoes, rutabagas, turnips, bread and macaroni.
Originally posted by whitewave
It's hard to keep up with the latest info when it keeps changing every year.
If you really want to get technical about the food you eat, you'd have to analyze the soil composition to determine the nutrient content and a host of other factors.
Originally posted by DevolutionEvolvd
Originally posted by whitewave
It's hard to keep up with the latest info when it keeps changing every year.
A valid point. And what makes it worse are the conflicting reports that cause insecurity in the public's opinion on health authorities and they begin to just ignore EVERYONE.
True. That was actually my initial reaction. Just throw my hands up and wait until the experts have it all figured out and take it from there. Unfortunately, we can't afford to wait until the "experts" tell us what's what. Our food is being poisoned now and we need answers now.
What I've done to keep up with the latest info is: find researchers/experts that are objective and credentialed; review health articles written by journalists critically; learn some biochemistry, research methods and journal writing so that I can read the journal entries as they are published.
See? That seems a bit excessive to me just to find out if what you buy in the grocery store to feed your family is something that's eventually going to make your hair fall out, pack 50 pounds onto your hips or cause a health problem 20 years down the road. If you're getting a degree in the subject, those are reasonable measures but just to eat? We're all on information overload already and who has that kind of time to devote to journals, keeping up with the latest studies, finding out which scientists are considered "valid" in their field, etc.?
The biggest thing that helped me was reviewing the history of nutritional research.....it's eye opening.
You realize, of course, we're all going to be coming to you now for nutrition information.
If you really want to get technical about the food you eat, you'd have to analyze the soil composition to determine the nutrient content and a host of other factors.
Weston A. Price did this very thing in the 30's while traveling around the world analyzing different indigenous culture's.
I'm sure the soil composition of most places has changed radically since Price did his study in the 1930's. There have been several chemical spills, mining "accidents", pollution increases, nuclear testings and tauntings, and so on. I just found out the other day that the most toxic place in America is right here in Oklahoma (Picher) from lead contamination. Lots of technologies to muck up the soil, air, water and, by extension, our food.
You realize, of course, we're all going to be coming to you now for nutrition information
Originally posted by JohnnyTHSeed
reply to post by VneZonyDostupa
Sirnex is saying that caribou do not eat meat.
The caribou get the ascorbic acid from plant matter, the innuit then eat the caribou, along with the stomach contents.
So, let's let the readers be the jury, hm?
I remember reading that the Inuit get ascorbic acid by eating the
stomach contents of Caribou... Last I heard, they don't eat meat.
I find it laughable that youre argument is supported by...."something you read"
I remember reading somewhere.......
According to an article written by Sally Fallon and Mary Enig (the two leading lipid researchers).......