North Carolina Schools May Cut Chunk Out of U.S. History Lessons

Last year my niece was over my house studying for her final exams. I asked what she was studying. It was history.

She told me she had to study the amendments to the constitution, but only from the 11th on as the first 10 weren't on the test so the school wasn't going over them.

Man, I was like WTF!! I hear stupidity like this all the time. I am convinced they are slowly and deliberately cutting this information out while replacing it with mind ruining PC bull****. Our future generations are being conditioned to be obedient little slaves to their government/corporate overlords.

If you have kids I would watch carefully what they are taught in school. You may have to fill in some things and/or explain why other things are incorrect.

ps. She is in school in upstate NY.

reply to post by Primordial


Exactly what "mind ruining PC bullsh#" are you seeing here?

Or is that just a catch-all for "things I dislike"?

Are you REALY all up in arms about a proposed "gap" in the American education system?!

What about the HUGE gaps in US education that exists already?!?!?!

Ahem.... languages, GEOGRAPHY (buy maps people, just like Miss California said!!!), politics - I could go on! ENGLISH - the use of it in everyday life!

Again - ENGLISH. It's a beautiful language (capitals do it no justice at all, I know) - why not learn how to use that and not "-IZE" every word that needs a slightly lengther description!?!?!?!

Hypocrasy is no more prevalent than ON THIS THREAD - NATIONAL HISTORY OR NO NATIONAL HISTORY! FACT!

Kids in CA get taught that the TV was an American invention - as was the computer - I know because I've taught extra curricular activities in that state and I'm sure it's not limited to CA.

Neither of the US Government's version of where the aforementioned inventions come from are true.

That just goes to show national curriculum is all nationalist proaganda.

So hell - you mught as well try and teach the kids about the rest of the world instead.

[edit on 4/2/2010 by TailoredVagabond]

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Can't have languages and geography. Studies prove that these subjects in particular interrupt the teaching of Football. And everyone knows football is how you're going to make it in life.

Honestly? Taking sports out of schools will be the best thing that could be done to the American education system. Sports are money hogs, and growing up, I knew SO MANY kids who ignored their studies because they were dead certain that playing halfback for Mae Eanes middle school was going to lead straight to an NFL career. We had 20 year old books, but the newest pads on the market, so i can't blame them for having that outlook.

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I don't homeschool, I do however do a supplemental education type of thing. I'm not convinced that in my state are that bad, it's getting there, but I do see some value in the education system. We live near a city so we go to the museums multiple times per month. Actually, my 4th grader came home the first week of school and told me how we, as a family, had already visited all of the school planned field trips and the teacher was asking her what the class would enjoy . Sadly, she was the only one and these were not random places, educational yes, but I couldn't believe how many 9 years old had never been to even one museum.

A few years ago, I began to little things that I thought should have already been studied, mostly math. So I began to them myself, and when they did finally get to it in class they already had a leg up and made that A so much easier.

More brainwashing of our kids is what this basically is.
Telling them man made global warming is real, evolution is real, government and/or mother earth is your god. Not telling them about the constitution and what our founding fathers fought against to form this country and the principles it was founded on.
Socialist world government agenda period.

Originally posted by hgfbob
reply to post by searching4truth

 

My niece was up last year from N.Carolina during spring break...she brought civics homework to do.....I looked over a few pages and, found a paragraph where the book said....

"NO ONE may question Gov...it has the final word"

that's NOT what I was taught in school here in central Mass.

I was taught the PEOPLE control the Gov.....and to ALWAYS question....not the case today

seems that different parts of the country are having the rules changed

I guess if your going to take over, you need to sneak in the back door.

Are you serious ?!?! Omg, if that were my child's book I would have been up at the school and that book would have meet with someone's arse . Absolutely, the government works for the citizens (in the US) it seems that most public servants are power hungry and many citizens are happy to give them that power.

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I agree with you. My point was that she outright lied about what they teach in middle schools. She said US history was covered in middle school. That is false according to the state's posted curriculum.

I have written the govenor about the attempt to take a large and important chunk of American History out of high school classes. In my opinion the American Mexican war is important to understanding imigration today. It is also important to look at the protest of the war that inspired writings such as "On Civil Disobedience." That speech later influenced the civil rights movement that completely changed the future of America.

That is just one example. My point is that nothing stands in a vacum. Everything that happened post 1870 was greatly affected by things before. By disconecting one set of events from the events that preceeded them students lose context. Thus they are even less likely to make connections to their own life.

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I've never heard that statement about North CArolina. Considerring we are home to some of the best business, medical, engineering, and vet schools.

Our public schools are ranked as some the best in the south east.

North Carolina Education Facts

North Carolina ranks among the top four states nationally for state pre-kindergarten quality standards according to the National Institute for Early Education Research.

North Carolina is the leading state for National Board Certified teachers, accounting for one-fifth of those nationally and 10% of the state’s teachers, library media coordinators and guidance counselors. We rank in the top 10 in SAT participation and the state’s average total scores exceed the Southeast’s average.

The North Carolina Community College System offers affordable, accessible programs through its 58-campus network that are within a 30-minute commute of 99% of the state’s population. The system is recognized nationally for its customized workforce training programs and offers a wide variety of occupational certification and continuing education programs.

Sixteen constituent campuses comprise the University of North Carolina System, including the first public university in the nation. They confer their highest concentration of degrees in the fields of business and management, the social sciences, communications, education, engineering, health professions, psychology and public affairs.

Several internationally renowned universities - Duke University, N.C. State University, Wake Forest University and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill – provide a strong research foundation and a steady influx of knowledge workers.

I know it is a little of topic. I just can't take it when people slam NC for their education system or act like we are idiot hill billys.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by DrMattMaddix

Isn't John Edwards from NC?

Yeah, he is. We keep trying to give him away, and he keeps finding his way back somehow.

No he is actually from around Seneca, South Carolina. His dad worked in the West Point Stevens mill down there.

First thing that came to my mind was dumbing down. The second thing was why? I believe with less graduates not educated on why the constitution was put there there is room for change. Scrap the constitution without much resistance.

Originally posted by searching4truth


Really?! American history minus the Revolutionary War, the Declaration of Independence, the Civil War, etc. To focus on more modern history. Seriously? How does one teach US history without the actual founding of the nation?

This is downright stupid!!!!!! I can't even believe this is a consideration in the North Carolina public education system.

www.foxnews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

You think they want kids learning this stuff? Maybe people will actually realize the school systems aren't flawed, they are intentionally designed this way. Maybe they will realize the same about every other aspect of our lives.

Our public education system is nothing more than carefully veiled Maoist style re-education camps. If you don't teach the Constitution, the Preamble, the Declaration of Independence, state constitutions, personal property and rights you won't have anyone complain when the Corporate Government takes them away. We will have nothing more than drooling, knuckle dragging rubes who will have zero logic skills, short attention spans, LEDs in their thumbs, prozac and ritalin pumping through their veins, with lots of materialism thrown in there for the bankers. They are going to get what they want: non-violent, dumb automatons who will leak cash to their "safe keepers".

Though I don't agree with this move at all, I can understand why.

So much has happened in the last decade that I'm sure it's getting hard to fit everything in a year of class (for high schoolers).

A better option would be to just make the students take another year of history. US History up to 1877 in 11th grade, and US History after 1877 in 12th grade. Problem solved!

It's not what you teach that matters, its the INTEREST on what a child MUST know that matters.

There really is a lot to learn, espacially at the rate fo advancement in science and tech today than children of the 80s. Are we OVER-BURDENING our precious next generations?

No. As mentioned in the earlier part in my thread, the child in the critical and very crucial years of his formation, where his/her foundations upon awareness of our years will last throughout his life, is that he/she must be incalcated with the desire to SEEK FOR KNOWLEDGE.

Schools and teachers can only teach so much, for no matter how progressive we think our human MIND capability are, limits are there. Thus, it is more critical to teach them DESIRE FOR KNOWLDGE, with basic foundations on CRITICAL ANAYLSIS, than anything else.

For it will be through critical anaylsis of any given subject will the wellsprings of curiousity be natured. And is the CURIOUSITY of our environment and how it came about - our past, our present and the future evolution be nutured.

When a child graduates from high school, he/she will go into specialized courses for their future careers - doctor, lawyers, engineers, financial consultants, etc. Many of other aspects of ALL ROUNDED education will be left out anyway.

Thus it is very vital and critical that each child be seeded the quest to seek for knowledge, not just for financial gain, but for the well being and very survival of humanity. Education never ends, regardless if you are a hot shot stock broker earning billions, or just a rubbish clearing operator.

And knowledge is so readily avaliable, espacially in democracies such as US, which is the libraries, even community ones, if one cannot afford a book. No human must be looked down upon his capacity for knowledge, white or black or yellow, nor their lack of interest.

It MUST be incalculated into our precious youth minds, regardless if they have a natural bend for academics or arts. It takes all kinds to make our world, and beauty enhanced by each and everyone diversive whole comming together as ONE.

Education in its purest form is the learning and avoiding of past mistakes made so that we may ALL evolve as one, helping others and pulling them to our level, not to separate and divide each other through egoistical achievements.

Pride brings arrogance, and is natural, just as animals kill one another. We must evolve beyond the natural beast we really are for the sake of humanity and evolution. No man, no mortal can ever claim to be a know it all, despite our best Uni degrees or PHDs.

We are only specialised in our own chosen field, the way a doctor or a humble mechanic is. And even then, it is only through rational discussion and debate can we progress, find out our flaws, eradicate it and improve on it.

Formal ducation and education beyond through schools based on interest developed through desire for knowledge, for the truth, will help us, and the critical value of education lays in stimulating INTEREST for knowledge, not just for financial gain, for the progress of not just us, but our families, friends, relatives and mine. Together, we make up mankind, one race.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]

Well, i live in north carolina. I am seriously considering developing some kind of petition against this. This is one of the many reasons why foreigners know american history better than americans.

Does anyone have any kind of information i can get about how to organize, develop, and legal rights (like where i can post up for information) about petitioning?

I honestly had no idea that Americans HAD history lessons?

I guess you learn something new every day eh?

Whoever is trying to reclaim or steal our country from us has pretty much done so already by placing key government figures within our government to destroy us from the inside out. kind of like adding a drop of poison to a glass of water, unnoticable until you are already dead. Now they are simply trying to get us to forget where we camr from, because those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.......which is what they want. This is simply a tactic to get us to forget why we should fight for our country during the most imperative battle in our country's history. I wouldn't call studying modern days and new laws........history. History is a record of failures that were learned from and great achievements that turned our nation into a great force impervious to all war and a financial system that the whole world depended on for survival. Whoever is making this move is clearly wanting us to forget ALL of this and the very creation of our country. Whoever THEY are ...they are pretty muh just spitting in our face at this point, and we still are doing nothing about it.....It's apparant that we have already forgotten our history and become lethargic and pampered......and THEY will succeed because of this. It's a shame that a handful of men can tear apart a great nation simply because we have gotten too lazy.

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sorry, this was an accidental double post.


[edit on 4-2-2010 by Phenomium]

There's a reason why the main theme of 1984 is that rewriting history establishes total control. He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future.

By the time these kids are adults, 10 years from now, most people will be unaware that the Bill of Rights even exists, so they won't complain when they are taken away from them. It's always been this way. We've always been at war with Oceania....