Proof David Icke is a fraud

Those three women are NOT one and the same person....I can tell you that...for sure.

three women? what 3 women? is david icke now a woman?

To those who believe that Icke is a fraud who is simply interested in making money off his books, why are most of them available free?

Google them and you will see nearly all of them on bibliotecapleyades.net.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul
Google them and you will see nearly all of them on bibliotecapleyades.net.

From that website...

This site contains copyrighted material encountered in the Internet, the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner.

So basically, they're only free because someone pirated them...

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by JonDeath
Not only can I prove he is a fraud...

You mean besides the fact he charges money for 'knowledge'?

Good call, freemasonry would never charge fees for membership, degrees and information!

Originally posted by Schrödinger
Good call, freemasonry would never charge fees for membership, degrees and information!

Masonry does not offer to reveal anything that can not be found by other means.

reply to post by Schrödinger


we charge for an apron and some literature. then we rent a chair to you on a yearly basis.
We don't charge for information.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus


Does David claim to reveal anything that cannot be obtained somewhere else?
Does he not speak of infinite consciousness? If that is the case, it would seem clear to me, that his knowledge is universal, and obtainable for anyone!



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David charges for some literature , as well as a seat rental, when he is holding a conference.

You are both avoiding the issue!
Costs will always have the need to be covered, be that Mason, or David!

I am neither pro nor anti David, but seeing masons coming together to bash him, because he needs to cover his expenses is just a joke

Originally posted by Schrödinger
Does David claim to reveal anything that cannot be obtained somewhere else?

So are you saying that he plagerized his theories from someone else? I do not recall anyone else claiming to have inside knowledge about reptilian-shapeshifters from outer-space. Either way it is crap psuedo-science.

Sorry to be little off topic but Jormangund, Quertzacoatl, Ameru, Shesha, The Serpent in the Garden of Eden and Ophion are all serpent deities (or such), so the idea of powerful or ruling serpents certainly isn't a terribly rare concept. I'm not sure what I think of Icke though - or Alex Jones. Surely TPTB would have infiltrated the truth movement with high profile leaders, so they may well be candidates. They could talk as much genuine truth to that 0.1% as they liked, but if that 0.1% is hanging on their every word and the truth teachers are being strategically efficient with the truth - the followers are still kept at arms length. Neither Icke nor Jones talks of 2012 (or 2011), so who knows.

reply to post by JonDeath
Can you tell me what year this interview took place?Because the woman in the video looks like her but would be too young to be Patsy if it's a recent interview.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat
Good post ,and agree with what you said My two cents is I enjoy reading David Icke and like you said you don't have to believe everything he says.I cannot imagine the ridicule he has gone through in his life to get where he is today I mean can you imagine getting up in front of everybody and and making the claims of reptillians in our government and others around the world?I say the guy has the guts to do something like that and deserves to charge for his books and tours at the very least he is entertaining and has actually done a lot of good in bringing the subject of world -wide child abuse to the attention of the masses.

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No you are twisting words.
Is it not a fact that masons charge for literature, degrees and other expenses?
Calling something crap, does not win you the argument.

There is no difference between you and Icke, you both charge for pseudo babble bs

Originally posted by Schrödinger
There is no difference between you and Icke, you both charge for pseudo babble bs

Encouraging people to better themselves is not the same as spouting off that the Queen is a child-molesting reptile/satanist.

Originally posted by Schrödinger
Is it not a fact that masons charge for literature, degrees and other expenses?

Yes, but it really isn't much money, and we can waive the fees if someone is particularly destitute. But if someone is so broke they can't even pay five bucks a month for dues, then they should probably be focusing their time & energy getting a job and put off joining Masonry until they're in a better place financially.

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Just my two cents. The two women do like a lot alike, no doubt of that, but that does not make David Icke a fraud. I don't think Arizona Wilder and Patsy Ramsey are the same person.
I remember when the murder happened, it seemed to me that the little girl was killed in some kind of ritual, and knowing what I know about these secret societies reinforces that thought.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Schrödinger
There is no difference between you and Icke, you both charge for pseudo babble bs

Encouraging people to better themselves is not the same as spouting off that the Queen is a child-molesting reptile/satanist.

I beg to differ sir.

It is two opinions, both equally rightful to be represented.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by Schrödinger
Is it not a fact that masons charge for literature, degrees and other expenses?

Yes, but it really isn't much money, and we can waive the fees if someone is particularly destitute. But if someone is so broke they can't even pay five bucks a month for dues, then they should probably be focusing their time & energy getting a job and put off joining Masonry until they're in a better place financially.

You are avoiding the point.

You charge. period.
David charges, period.

You both sell philosophy, spiritual enlightenment, a feeling of brotherly sense!

Originally posted by Schrödinger
I beg to differ sir.

It is two opinions, both equally rightful to be represented.

If you say so, I just do not see the corollary between improving one's self and helping others with that of believing in reptile aliens from outer space who want to molest children and drink their blood.

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Encouraging people to better themselves is not the same as spouting off that the Queen is a child-molesting reptile/satanist.

The thing that get me is that if it's not true, the Queen can stop it anytime she wishes.

She could probably sue him for defamation of character of have him up on criminal charges of slander.