What do you think about Miley Cyrus's pole dancing at the teen choice awards?

reply to post by mopusvindictus


I REALLY hope you're not over the age of 20, because that post was written like "that guy". The one who graduated high school two years ago, but still cruises the parking lot every day in his old primered camaro. Don't be that guy.

Originally posted by calstorm
Well, I'm not sure that this is really an ATS topic. Unless you think its a conspiracy to turn all our young girls in to mindless sluts.

Well, there is.

Seen all the subliminal porn in disney?

reply to post by orwellianunenlightenment


The wheel in the sky turns.
Art is what I make it.
I see plenty of western sculptures that make me pass.
Art is objective to the viewer.
If you want to talk about marketing then I will give you a pass.

reply to post by space cadet


What I am saying is quite parallel to her performance. But you are right, what I say can easily sound like wah, wah, wah to somebody who has possibly been running from themselves, steeped in fear and ritual. Christ is coming back, just not in the form many ironically religious Christians expect. Christ had quite the argument against religion. And it is so hard to communicate with somebody who maybe expects me to be a mere empty mirror to their empty mirror. And yes, I am being very harsh. I have just come to the conclusion that I will generally share love, but that I will also shine a mirror to the obstinate. I know I and many others are starting to see that center. As harsh as what am saying might sound, I am merely trying to get you to look at yours, removing all the BS image. We can agree to disagree, but I must share my view. A huge problem is the residual images in our heads that stem from unforgiveness. It is about time we forget those residual images, as they are monkey poo. It is crunch time. I do love others, including you, but I must share what I perceive. You must share what you perceive as well. It is time for us to stop running around in circles.

In response to redmage

We're voiding the whore archetype whether you like it or not. If that is (and I am not saying it is, just a conditional statement) the only weapon in your bag of tricks, then you shall be left empty and desolate and barren. The animal alphas are fast being ignored. The spiritual alphas are stepping in, as it is necessary.

Edit: BTW, those who are spiritually awakened are no longer falling for the image trap, you know, false believe in image, then fear, then pride, then vanity, then narcissism, then lust. The lust = slavery, as it makes us perfectly little programmable computers, mindless animated meat puppets. The labeling of somebody as "that guy" is a vainglorious attempt at getting them to fall into the trap. I choose to be a character to help resolve the world drama, but I and others are refusing to be a character in YOUR drama. Do you think you are glorious goddess, the weaver of all webs? Get thee behind me.

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I don't know. Perhaps some people do not know the difference between a person and a persona.

I have experienced many things in my life (to tell them all, people would say I was either lying or crazy) most of the things I experienced came about while playing a persona. Only a few things by being myself, the person. Although previous experiences had taught me how to handle those situations correctly.

It is like the whole Janet Jackson Wardrobe Malfunction Scandal. Janet Jackson hasn't been running around baring her breasts since then right? But then again Latoya did do a spread for Playboy in 1989.

Face it. Sex sells and controversy sells. Sitting on a wooden stool on stage and singing while strumming a guitar is not going to get you very far unless you are truly phenomenal. At least she does have something to fall back on with her singing because as far as Hanna Montana goes, children on kids shows only last until they are no longer "kid" aged.

reply to post by orwellianunenlightenment


You just reminded me why I will not get up and go to church tomorrow. I can read my bible, study my beliefs in my home, and never have to have another human impose upon me their version of what religion and being in christ means. I got it on my own a long time ago. The church is a hoax, within the churches lie hypocrites, blasphemers, abusers, injustices, sadists, the list can go on and on. Within my home, none of this exsists, only a true relationship between myself and my God, in which I can include my family and friends. I do not need anyone to translate for me that which is so obvious.

edit to add: "get thee behind me"? Really? You do know that you are okay speaking to God without the 'thee's and thou's right?

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The second you think you got it, holding on too tight, you lost it. Are you sure you haven't merely split yourself and are worshipping yourself. That repeats the drama. We can only conceive of God to the extent that we can conceive of the most perfect version of ourselves. Self-worship is DESTROYING society, especially because many selves know not I. The downward spiral, the fall, continues. At least when the bottom is hit, one is slapped in the face and hopefully realizes the character is not the being.

Edit: In terms of thee, I was obviously being dramatic in showing a point. Again, I shine mirrors and watch the monkeys dance. I do what I do and say what I say for a reason. There is clearly something lost in translation, but I know why I do what I do.


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Originally posted by redmage

Originally posted by RoyalCanadian
Disney should cut her contract in half... Who does she think she is?

Really?

Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera were Mouseketeers once upon a time. Hannah Montana is just following in the cash cow footsteps of those that have gone before her. Personally, I'm amazed that there's actually people out there who didn't see this coming on the horizon. Disney is a factory for springboarding pop-tarts, and Miss Montana is nothing new; she's merely next in line.

*shrugs*

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Bingo! It's a formula. I believe all 'pop culture' has formulas for each one of its tentacle like genres (music, movies, television, radio, websites etc.) and depending on how closely the formula is followed and for how long determines the career success and longevity.

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SD!!!!!!!!

You didn't know...she'll be 18 in 2012 and is going to be Palins running mate?

The Olsen Twins are respectively up for Secretary of State and Defense

How'd you ever miss that?

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Don't be ridiculous lol...

I would never

But I wont lie and say she is not attractive either, she's becoming a woman and I think we really need some discrepancy between post and pre pubescent in this country...

Like I said 16 is the age in most western nations...

Now attractive or not... that would just be using a girl, obviously there is nothing in common on a mental level 99% of the time unless she happened to be some brilliant girl with a massive emotional maturity rate...

It would be using her... would never do it, I have more respect than that.

But to be in denial that she IS attractive, well that would just be lying.

I'm not a huge fan of people who dress young girls up like grown women anyway... Men like small, fragile soft very often...innocent, I think honestly it's just not right to portray a girl sexually, if the decision is that she is not of an age to be ready for that behavior

I'm not sure...

To look at Miley, you can discern in most photos if she is over 18 or not anymore honestly

She's very boderline with all the make up and clothes and even her voice is very deep for her age...

Men ARE becoming attracted to her...

She shouldn't be up on a pole yet

soooooo, this is above top secret. imo, if you want to talk about celebrities, there are millions of sites on the internet for those who envy the rich. this is where people go to check and see if there are any news update on the end of the world, political scheme, alien disclosure, mass genocide disguise as war, post and aft armageddon, etc..... not some 16 year old girl or may or may not have danced at a show. children are having sex at a very young age, 11 years old is not uncommon. spouse cheat on each other, people meet at clubs to have random sex with strangers, 19 year old allowed a gang bang, most of your co-workers are having affairs etc... soooo what? in this day and age loyalty and trust has already become a thing of the past. forget it and wait for our doom.

This is what is called sexualisation of the new generation. I dont think this is all her own doing. I think she is being prepped for this and i dont want to say it but its got control of her. Its breeding a new generation who cant think for themselves so they will think that sex is what life is about. It is for easier control of the population. Its being pushed heavily by the media, magazines and fashion.

Seriously

Aren't teenagers already overly sexually tempted and horny enough without dressing their peers up like sexy grown women and making them even nuttier in the loins than they already are?

I blame Myspace and camera phones for all the issues related to this thread.

I mean I give credit to.

Originally posted by brill
The fact that she dresses and acts like a 2 cent whore certainly ups the ante in some people minds I suppose.

2 cent whores?

I've been getting ripped off !! Damn..

I watched the video, I think I must have watched the wrong one though, because all I saw was the same old mindless music and Miley dancing.

There was a pole, But I just didn't see anything explicit or sensual.

Hmm, I've seen worse on myspace to be honest.. oh well..

reply to post by Ha`la`tha


That's is what I'm talking about, I think that in order to see something sensual or sexual going on within the performance you must be looking or hoping to see it, because all I see, as most people, is a young girl singing and dancing. Another words, it takes an nasty mind to make something nasty of it.

Oh my fking God,..

The nation with the biggest porn industry in the world is complaining bout a girl in a mini skirt.

Ironic,..

Originally posted by reasonable
It was horrific! Only a Atheist would do such a thing, so her claims of being a devout Christian are bunk!

Jesus fking Christ, grow the f**k up!

But hey, your signature says it all. Everybody that doesnt have the same beliefs as you is, according to your sig, a scumbag

Originally posted by space cadet
reply to post by Ha`la`tha

 

That's is what I'm talking about, I think that in order to see something sensual or sexual going on within the performance you must be looking or hoping to see it, because all I see, as most people, is a young girl singing and dancing. Another words, it takes an nasty mind to make something nasty of it.

i guess you missed the part at .56 seconds into the video were she humps the leg of another singer.