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Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Farnhold
Let me explain this phenomena for you.
He probably is in contact with "grays", HOWEVER, they are not aliens from another plaet, but spiritual forces. This is well known and in every generation of our planets history these forces have played a role - specifically with the governments. They are demons; that is, spiritual intelligences which for some reason or another, seek to manipulate human beings by engaging them. They can relate information about anything, because, being spiritual forces thet possess the ability to manipulate the archetypal primordial forces. They are called shedim in Hebrew, and they can be quite convincing if one continues to communicate with them. The longer the relationship exists, the more the person becomes absorbed and and manipulated by the paradigm created by this force.Thus ensnaring him. The only thing demons seek is self preservation. They act exactly the way viruses do. They can only live by connecting to a host and siphoning its life force.. In most instances, they act as compulsions, but in this guys particular case, he is in communcation with them through some sort of invocation.
They arent real. His mind has been warped beyond repair. His stories are interesting im sure. and im sure some of the information he claims to be recieving might have validity to it; but being spirits of deception, and falsehood (its in their nature to create fantasy) they mix the majority of the truths that trickle down to them (basically, as is known to seasoned occultists, knowledge of the future only extends as far as 70 years, because every 70 years the energies change, thus, a spiritual force or a astrologer cannot see beyond 70 years) with lies.
Remember, they are archetypal. They are incredibly wily. But... some people are just stupid, and lack this knowledge. Better that yuo dont contact such forces, because its widely known that they lie.edit on 20-12-2010 by dontreally because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
Here's why... you say they can be feeling, but if you are using them because of efficiency so you can switch out parts faster... it does not sound as though they are MORE complex but rather LESS complex that the human body.
The wheel I'm referring to is the body. You already have a living system.
NO, I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T PLAY WITH ROBOTS LATER...JUST HOLD YOUR HORSES!
Can you, as of right now... put another soul into another living body?
Stop talking about robots for a minute!.... because you haven't gotten there yet.
Do you understand the complexity of a body in full?
That what medical science does. Are you attempting to emulate a physical body?
I assume you are to some degree in order to make a robot that feels. You must be getting some ideas from the central nervous system. Do you understand a living central nervous system completely?
from answers.com
n.
The study of the nature of various mental tasks and the processes that enable them to be performed.
...if not, tell me the basic rough draft of how you intend to make this robot feel... and don't give me electricity stuff. I'm well aware of the electricity in the body...
When i say do something easier... you don't understand what the hell I'm saying do you?
I'm not talking about getting a job at the 7-11. I mean don't you think your theory would have more merit if you could explain how you are going to build a nervous system in an artificial body to give it tactile senses
and if you soul transfer, why don't you just prove this theory by doing it with a living being that is already built!
Then you would have all the freaking funding you would need!...
you can build your robot later if it's that damn easy to transfer a soul. Get what I'm saying?
Do I believe all things are possible?
Originally posted by Farnhold
Grays I asked for never came, I waited 2 nights. You said that you have the ability to contact them. You also said, and I quote "All wishes are granted".
Then where were/are they?
I demand explanation.
The spell is simplicity itself. No tools, ingredients, witchcraft symbols, or invocation prayers are needed, though you can add anything you like if it helps your focus.
Always remember: whether you think you can or can't, you're right. This goes triple for spells and witchcraft.
.. the further away in time you invoke a result the more likely it is to happen.
Originally posted by lowki
Magic takes time, patience, co-ordination, practice.
en.wikipedia.org...
here is a fairly good lay introduction to spell casting
www.spells-witchcraft.org...
an excerpt
The spell is simplicity itself. No tools, ingredients, witchcraft symbols, or invocation prayers are needed, though you can add anything you like if it helps your focus.
Always remember: whether you think you can or can't, you're right. This goes triple for spells and witchcraft.
.. the further away in time you invoke a result the more likely it is to happen.
I'd also recommend casting safety spells as the baseline.
in terms of getting grays to come-by and abduct you.
You can start small, like getting some friends or family to call you.
edit on 21/12/10 by lowki because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
these posts are much better,
There are some interesting points, especially the last one.
everything seemed more the point in all of them... for the most part.
so... how long is it supposed to be until we all have to be robots?
why do we have to be robots specifically... like, what are the environmental factors?
43.16 Questioner: The physical vehicle that is used in fourth-density space/time is, I am assuming, quite similar to the one that is now used in third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The chemical elements used are not the same. However, the appearance is similar.
what's going to trigger the need for this?
6.15 Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles?
Ra: One major cycle is approximately 25,000 of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested at the end of three major cycles. That is, approximately between 75 and 76,000 of your years. All are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.
what are the options?
when is this particular thing going to happen?
How long will that cycle take?
43.11 Questioner: Can you state the average lifespan in the fourth density of space/time incarnation?
Ra: I am Ra. The space/time incarnation typical of harmonious fourth density is approximately 90,000 of your years as you measure time.
43.13 Questioner: How long is a cycle of experience in fourth density in our years?
Ra: The cycle of experience is approximately 30 million of your years if the entities are not capable of being harvested sooner. There is in this density a harvest which is completely the function of the readiness of the social memory complex. It is not structured as is your own, for it deals with a more transparent distortion of the One Infinite Creator.
how many cycles are before it or is this going to happen very soon?
January 24, 1981
6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?
Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.
6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?
Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in the past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately 30, thirty, of your years.
6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so.
what is the reason robots can survive this thing and natural living things can't?
why do you still have to make robots if you said in your past life you were already a robot? relative to us and this particular timeline that would be the past so you should already have all these resources available to you. somewhere.
unless someone or something destroyed them all... or were you just trying to pave a path to the future by telling the story... or is the past really the future if you can somehow "remember" the future as though it is some kind of reverse memory?
Originally posted by lowki2
I ascended when I was a pirate through negative love (acceptance) of my fellow pirates.
Originally posted by lowki2
I died early as a counsel decided that the host body was causing me too much pain.
Originally posted by lowki2
Then I incarnated as a female genetic engineer,
I participated in some food lathering orgies in my spare time.
Originally posted by lowki2
My first two life times I spent underground, the mining one I was mainly in tunnels,
where as the genetic engineer female I spent mostly under ground buildings.
Originally posted by lowki2
Then I incarnated as a space ship helper "android" gray alien, I had Nordic Orion masters, but I rarely looked much above their waist, I was getting my orders from a higher ranking gray group leader.
Originally posted by lowki2
I died in the soviet union in the early 80's from a rifle wound to the chest, reincarnated as a homo-sapien.
Originally posted by cluckerspud
Aside form the pirate thing, sounds like you have had some rather boring lives.
Including this one.
So much so that you created this thread and was banned.
Originally posted by ChaosMagician
why do we even need to be robots?
why can't we just be computers with a conscious to live out virtual realities?
Couldn't there ever be a time when sustaining living things was no longer feasible?...
that is why I was asking when will be the time that will literally drive us into that cycle?...seeing as we get some things done because of necessity. Neccesity makes it an entirely different story. So you are saying that since computers can be so thorough and correct and vast with the information they hold, that this is how we would obtain the most knowledge and that is a key to ultimate understanding. What if there is a dimension already like this?
Why do we need to compete with greys for territory?
Are you against them all of the sudden now or is it competition not as drastic?
Do greys not have their own means of computation?
why can't their surpass ours or are they a future civilization and eventually it does?
These beings, using vast reptilian created robots that resembled giant spiders, ants and wasps destroyed the humans planet in the Pleiades.
...
Robots that were created by the Draconian Empire to conquer worlds, turned on their reptilian creators and a vicious war ensued between them. The robots won that war. The robots then travelled to Andromeda and because they was programmed to destroy all humans by the Empire, they sought to do just that and all organic life too. Galactic Federation crystalline robots, were created and they helped to reprogramme the Empire`s metallic machines of destruction.
"The presidents of the two trusts are a part of the central planning group of the world government. This group attempts to lead the race to the goal of a culture. To begin with, they must, by means of production adjustment, dispense with the law of supply and demand, and thereafter create a situation of unbridled prosperity, so that no one is troubled any more by material things.
As a result this group also stimulates the mental development of the race. Take, for example, the cars and houses. There comes a time when the cultural level has reached a point where these no longer function as status symbols. What then influences the choice of the public? Two things, mainly: comfort and price. Maximum comfort and low production cost can only be achieved with robot automation. And what happens then? Everyone chooses the most efficient car and the most efficient house and so the development proceeds.
12.18 Questioner: Are there any Confederation or Orion entities living upon the Earth and operating visibly among us in our society at this time?
Ra: I am Ra. There are no entities of either group walking among you at this time. However, the crusaders of Orion use two types of entities to do their bidding, shall we say. The first type is the thought-form; the second, a kind of robot.
12.19 Questioner: Could you describe the robot?
Ra: I am Ra. The robot may look like any other being. It is a construct.
Dr. Neruda: "First of all, the Animus are not coming to annihilate humankind. They're coming to control the genetic library known as earth. Their intention is not completely understood, but it's not to kill our animal populations or the human species. It has more to do with genetic engineering and how their species can be modified to enable it to house a spiritual consciousness. They want unfettered access to our DNA in order to conduct experiments. Beyond this, they want to colonize earth, but for what ultimate purpose we don't know.
Why if we build a computer consciousness and wind up destroying ourselves and the only thing left is the network that have now achieved the means to sustain their own power supplies and this could all happen very fast since technologies moves so fast and everything turns into a computerized world...
"There were some within the angelic realm that believed the Central Race was too controlling of the soul carrier structure. They felt that a structure should be created that would enable angels to incarnate within the reality membrane of earth and other life-bearing planets. They insisted that this would improve these planets and the physical structure of the universe at large. However, the Central Race refused this proposal and a renegade group left to design a soul carrier, independent of the Central Race."
"However, in the case of the soul carrier designed by Lucifer and his followers, this connection was severed both consciously and subconsciously because the structure was not based on DNA, which is strictly controlled by the Central Race. Consequently, it inclined this experimental species toward a very strong survival complex because it feared extinction so deeply, which is the result of feeling complete separation from the unification force. This survival complex created a species that over-compensated its fear of extinction by developing a very powerful group mind.
"The group mind compensated for the loss of connection to the unification force, creating its physical and mental corollary. It was the equivalent of unifying the species as a whole in the physical reality membrane of their planetary system. Thus, the angels that entered this system lost their memory of their angelic natures and became more interested in operating as a single collective, than as individuals.
except for insects and some of them survive, maybe they start using the computers that are left or the computers start communicating with them and they evolve from new radiation and start driving around in cars and stuff until they become very smart and their population rises astronomically and this is why we have "insectoids" maybe they've already seen all that # and it was so weird that they learned how to time travel and came back to tell us these things. Wow... locust, man... that's trippy stuff. Is that why teachers sometimes call their students "young grasshopper"....haha!
A group of red ants, each the size of a cow, were rushing from behind the rocks onto the beach. They moved quicker than horses in gallop.
The armed men kept glancing behind, as if to compare the speed at which the people scrambled to safety, with the advance of the ants. Already, the latter were near - too near...
The men faced them bravely as, with only a second’s hesitation, the first beast attacked. We could distinguish the mandibles clearly - each the size of a man’s arm. At first, the creature feigned, enabling the man to strike with his sabre, but he slashed only air. Immediately, the mandibles encircled his waist, severing him cleanly in two. Another pair of ants helped the first to shred him, while the rest launched their assault on the fleeing combatants, gaining rapidly on them - too rapidly...
From the sphere, an electric-blue beam of unbearable intensity shot out, just as the ants were upon the men. The creatures were struck dead, one after the other, with amazing precision and effectiveness. Curls of smoke rose from the burnt flesh of the animals strewn over the ground, their enormous legs convulsing in a last spasm.
The sphere returned to its earlier position above the beach and produced a special tool with which it combed through the carcasses. I could see one of the astronauts seated at her desk, talking into her computer. This prompted me to ask Thao if she was supervising the work being carried out.
‘At the moment, yes, for this work was not originally scheduled. We are taking samples of these creatures, pieces of lung in particular, in order to analyse them. We think that certain types of radiation have produced this mutant form of creature. In fact, ants do not have lungs but the only logical explanation for their sudden gigantism is...’
‘These people are, in a way, the descendants of certain ancestors of people existing still on your planet. In fact, a group of their ancestors peopled a continent on the planet Earth about 250 000 of your Earth years ago. Here, they possessed a civilisation which was very advanced but, having raised enormous political barriers between themselves, they finally destroyed themselves, 150 years ago, with the atom.’
‘Do you mean - a total nuclear war?’
‘Yes, brought about by chain reaction. We come, from time to time, to take samples in order to study the degree of radiation still existing in various regions. Sometimes too, just as a few moments ago, we help them.’
Mutant corn might prove very beneficial or do we not like that dimension? oh no... the governments going to burn all the corn now.
Originally posted by lowki
Really so would you like to state what lives you had, which are so much more interesting?
Originally posted by lowki
Clearly you didn't read beyond the first page,
I simply had 2 accounts when I started the thread due to some confusion,
though now I have just this one Lowki.
Originally posted by dontreally
lol @ galaxy. thats quite different from being hitler.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by cluckerspud
That sounds like actual new age dogma