Nearly 70% Of Americans Want Talks To End War In Ukraine

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The survey suggests Biden administration policy toward Russia is increasingly out of step with public opinion

Roughly 70% of Americans want the Biden administration to push Ukraine toward a negotiated peace with Russia as soon as possible, according to a new survey from the Harris Poll and the Quincy Institute, which publishes Responsible Statecraft.

Support for negotiations remained high when respondents were told such a move would include compromises by all parties, with two out of three respondents saying the U.S. should still pursue talks despite potential downsides. The survey shows a nine-point jump from a poll in late 2022 that surveyed likely voters. In that poll, 57% of respondents said they backed talks that would involve compromises.

The new data suggests that U.S. government policy toward the Ukraine war is increasingly out of step with public opinion on the eve of the second anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion.

Great news after all and in line with common sense and rational thinking because the war in Ukraine has come at a great human cost with tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians who have died in a senseless conflict.

This thread is a follow up of another thread I made discussing what currently happens in Ukraine where thousands of young Ukrainian men refuse to enlist to the army because they don't want to die for nothing. I am sure many young Russians will be thinking exactly the same way.

The poll answers the arguments made by a few posters in other threads who argue for the prolongation of the war by completely disregarding the human cost and the fact that Ukraine cannot win this war and the sooner the war finishes the better it would be for everyone. I have said on a number of occasions that the West must not use this as a proxy war against Russia but rather intervene to stop the conflict. Contrary to the online propaganda most people (not only Americans) will like to see the end of this war through diplomacy and talks between all sides.

That would be a good goal.

But Putin is the one who gets to decide that, I'm afraid. And he isn't going to do that. He's already lost too much to cut and run now.

He will eventually, but it's way too early.

a reply to: Consvoli

originally posted by: Disgusted123
That would be a good goal.

But Putin is the one who gets to decide that, I'm afraid. And he isn't going to do that. He's already lost too much to cut and run now.

He will eventually, but it's way too early.

a reply to: Consvoli

I hope it finishes as soon as possible and the west don't use it anymore as a proxy war because it hasn't worked. The more it is prolonged the more young people will die for nothing.

If they wanted they would have sent Russia and Ukraine to the negotiation table long time ago. And the poll shows there is a common understanding on the kind of compromises that should be made by all sides.

To bad the democrats have become the war party.

They have no interest in stopping this war, they are making money and its other people dying.

a reply to: Irishhaf

I agree with what you say but you should maybe say both major parties support the war. Let's not forget who gave the ok for the first munitions to be sent.
And from a strategic standpoint, it is extremely important to exhaust an enemy before you go toe to toe. So with that knowledge the amount of money and supply we give is far less valuable then boots on the ground. The US knew this going in and Putin either is too stupid to realize or just doesn't care because it's not him doing the fighting.
The man does not appear to be of good health. That to me is a good indication that he does not care.

a reply to: budzprime69

Russia is not a threat to us, they can barely manage to get needed supplies into a neighbor. They are not even a threat to middle europe, only immediate neighbors and even then its touch and go.

the only threat russia has that is serious is nukes, yet they also know they all die if they try that route.

Last point, Trump didnt/doesnt want war, he always tried talking first and thinks the ukraine war could end if people picked up the phone and started talking from a position of anything other than punishing russia.

a reply to: Irishhaf

I don't want any nation state or tribe or anything ever to be at war. Seems pointless to me as we are all creatures of the universe. But we have to live in the reality that this dimension gives us.
I want to make it clear, I do not support war.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
To bad the democrats have become the war party.

They have no interest in stopping this war, they are making money and its other people dying.

originally posted by: Disgusted123
That would be a good goal.

But Putin is the one who gets to decide that, I'm afraid. And he isn't going to do that. He's already lost too much to cut and run now.

He will eventually, but it's way too early.

a reply to: Consvoli

PUTIN has agreed to talks with Zelenskyy and it was the US who said "no peace talks"


This was back in December...

President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine if they wanted to[ with Moscow prepared to defend its national interest

www.france24.com...

U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations

www.nytimes.com...

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sunday publicly showed the draft of the peace treaty signed by the two countries in Istanbul during the initial phase of Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, according to media reports.During a meeting with the African Union leaders spearheaded by South African President Cyril Ramaphosa at St. Petersberg's Konstantinovsky Palace, Putin accused Ukraine of signing a peace treaty with Moscow earlier, claiming that Kyiv later threw it into the 'garbage of history', Hindustan Times reported. Several other nations including Senegal, Egypt, Uganda, South Africa, Zambia, Congo Republic, and the Comoro Islands also attended the meeting with Putin and his Ukrainian counterpart

I'm sure Ukraine threw the peace treaty in the garbage after the US found out about it and told Ukraine not to agree to anything "we will help you defeat Russia"

www.livemint.com...

a reply to: Consvoli

You want Ukraine to win?

Have the US and all or the EU and NATO stand up and say, "If you don't leave now, you will be destroyed".

Russia will leave.

But we have to prolong the war with billions of US tax dollars because our president is a pussy.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Consvoli

You want Ukraine to win?

Have the US and all or the EU and NATO stand up and say, "If you don't leave now, you will be destroyed".

Russia will leave.

But we have to prolong the war with billions of US tax dollars because our president is a pussy.

Russia won't bow down to Terroristic threats of "you will be destroyed". Do you not understand Russia is a world superpower who has more nukes then the US. Russia is in the driver seat here too.

How would the US react if Russia said "if you don't leave Iraq you will be destroyed" ?

You think the US would have listened? No?

So why do you think Russia would?

a reply to: TheMisguidedAngel

Are you Russian?

We need a show of force.

Not some candy-assed foreign policy

originally posted by: Consvoli
responsiblestatecraft.org...

The survey suggests Biden administration policy toward Russia is increasingly out of step with public opinion

Roughly 70% of Americans want the Biden administration to push Ukraine toward a negotiated peace with Russia as soon as possible, according to a new survey from the Harris Poll and the Quincy Institute, which publishes Responsible Statecraft.

Support for negotiations remained high when respondents were told such a move would include compromises by all parties, with two out of three respondents saying the U.S. should still pursue talks despite potential downsides. The survey shows a nine-point jump from a poll in late 2022 that surveyed likely voters. In that poll, 57% of respondents said they backed talks that would involve compromises.

The new data suggests that U.S. government policy toward the Ukraine war is increasingly out of step with public opinion on the eve of the second anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion.

Great news after all and in line with common sense and rational thinking because the war in Ukraine has come at a great human cost with tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians who have died in a senseless conflict.

This thread is a follow up of another thread I made discussing what currently happens in Ukraine where thousands of young Ukrainian men refuse to enlist to the army because they don't want to die for nothing. I am sure many young Russians will be thinking exactly the same way.

The poll answers the arguments made by a few posters in other threads who argue for the prolongation of the war by completely disregarding the human cost and the fact that Ukraine cannot win this war and the sooner the war finishes the better it would be for everyone. I have said on a number of occasions that the West must not use this as a proxy war against Russia but rather intervene to stop the conflict. Contrary to the online propaganda most people (not only Americans) will like to see the end of this war through diplomacy and talks between all sides.

I would agree.
Giving Ukraine $$ and weapons is only prolonging the inevitable. Even with our help (sans boot on the ground) it's just a slow grind towards their own attrition. Russia isn't even using their newest tech or their best troops...

a reply to: TheMisguidedAngel

Putin's 'peace proposal' was nothing more than a demand for Ukraine capitulation.
Preconditions of any talks were that Ukraine accept that Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk are now Russian.
And that Ukraine would not seek to join the EU or NATO.

Ukraine would in reality have to accept being a Russian vassal state....and the majority of Ukrainians don't want that. They have experienced Russian control before and they want to be an independent nation.

Of course Russia poses no threat to the USA other than its nuclear weapons - Ukraine handed over its nuclear armoury when gaining independence on assurance that Russia would never invade Ukraine and would in fact act as defenders and guarantors of Ukrainian independence.

But if the Russian invasion had gone unopposed Russia would have had the green light to invade and retake other former USSR nations like The Baltic States, Moldova etc.

US support has halted Putin's dreams of a Greater Russia and is preserving values such as freedom and the Right to Self-Determination.....things that Americans used to hold dear.

I'm not American and I can't comment on whether or not 70% of Americans want to bow down to Putin or not. All I know is US support is needed and appreciated.

a reply to: Consvoli

First .. of course Americans want war to end. Everyone wants war to end. But sometimes war is necessary. And when one country is invaded by another, that means a war is necessary.

Interesting choice of reading materials you have there. If I remember right, you have quoted online socialist sites before, so this place is in line with those. The site is backed by the Quincy Institute, which is a far left organization that was founded and funded by George Soros. The writers and editors and those who run it have worked for Think Progress and Media Matters, and it has received praise from far left Mother Jones and Salon. Members of congress have accused it of being antisemitic. And it is clearly a 'blame America first' organization.

Considering how biased it is, I don't really believe a poll coming from it. Polls can be skewered to say anything you want. And these guys have an agenda, which clearly you buy into. I'd want to see multiple polls from multiple outlets backing the numbers in order to believe it.

You aren't American. What does your own country say about supporting the Ukrainians against the invasion of Russia? And no, Russia invading Ukraine is NOT a civil war like you claim.

Council on Global Affairs - Americans Continue to Support Military and Economic Aid to Ukraine

- Six in 10 Americans favor providing both economic assistance to Ukraine and sending additional arms and military supplies to the Ukrainian government (58% each).

- Majorities of Democrats (75%) and Independents (54%) favor providing military aid to Ukraine, which a majority of Republicans (53%) oppose.

- Similarly, majorities of Democrats (78%) and Independents (54%) support providing economic assistance to Ukraine, while Republicans are opposed (58%).

- Seven in 10 Americans (69%), including majorities across party lines, favor the United States supporting Ukraine’s admission to NATO.

- A majority of Americans (60%) say that the US security relationship with Ukraine does more to strengthen US national security than it does to weaken it.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I don't know what is the political leaning of this source but I am not interested in left vs right. I just found it online.

It backs what I have argued and it's a blow to all these ideologists who are arguing for the prolongation of the war.


You can believe whatever you want. Nobody else has made the argument you have just made i.e socialists source so the poll isn't valid... You need to come up with better arguments.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TheMisguidedAngel

Are you Russian?

We need a show of force.

Not some candy-assed foreign policy

You don't have to be Russian or Ukrainian to have an opinion about the war. Most reasonable people would like the war to end straight away.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Consvoli

You want Ukraine to win?

Have the US and all or the EU and NATO stand up and say, "If you don't leave now, you will be destroyed".

Russia will leave.

But we have to prolong the war with billions of US tax dollars because our president is a pussy.

I want the war to end.
Ukraine has lost the war and any prolongation is just madness.

a reply to: Consvoli

We would all like to see an end to this war but giving Putin what he wants won't deliver us that.

Sad to see Americans advocating surrender.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Consvoli

We would all like to see an end to this war but giving Putin what he wants won't deliver us that.

Sad to see Americans advocating surrender.

Given the loses and the territory occupied by Russia at the moment I think the best possible scenario is for the war to end. If you took a look at my other thread you see how desperate the situation has become in the Ukrainian armed forces. Young men who don't want to fight, others who escape to nearby countries because they don't want to die young, and many many young dead men (on both sides).