The Houthis in Yemen have tested a hypersonic missile

a reply to: RussianTroll

Actually, maneuverability at hypersonic velocities is still a serious issue and rather limited to say the least.

As to pieces of old junk do you mean the majority of the Russian tanks that are now being fielded?

a reply to: RussianTroll


"It’s like if it’s impossible to create not an old piece of junk, but a modern battle tank, simply announce that, since both tanks and bicycles have wheels, produce 10,000 bicycles, but declare that they have created 2 tank armies. And still be proud of it))))))"


"That.....is illogical, Capt."

a reply to: RussianTroll

"The Shiite organization."

Indeed!

If the houthis were my proxy b1tch,I would be reluctant to use them to test my hypersonic missiles.

I would be looking for a more technologically savvy partner to test my top shelf weapons,rather than a bunch of qat addict goat herders.

a reply to: onestonemonkey

In principle, accelerating an object to a speed of at least 5M is not so difficult, and this does not depend on the type of fuel. Difficulties arise later. Upon entering the dense layers of the atmosphere, the object, in this case the warhead, melts due to friction with air. Therefore, to prevent melting, the warhead must fly in a cloud of plasma. And this can be done. But another problem arises. Plasma does not transmit control signals. But to make it let through signals, and not just let through, but let through its own and block other people’s - this is a super technology that is inaccessible to Western countries.

a reply to: RussianTroll

air defense missiles must have even greater speed for interception. That's the whole breakdown on the topic.

I don't think you understand how this missile works and why Russia has been trying to take out the American patriot missle system since it arrived in Ukraine?? Please educate yourself instead of swollowing Putins lies, here this shouild help.....

www.popularmechanics.com...

But Western analysts already knew about this missile, which has the NATO reporting name “Killjoy.” They were not impressed with Putin’s attempt at rebranding.

“Kinzhal is nothing more than an air-launched ballistic missile,” Jeffrey Lewis, Ph.D., of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California, tells Popular Mechanics. “It’s only hypersonic in the sense that pretty much all ballistic missiles are hypersonic.”

Sidharth Kaushal, Ph.D., of the U.K.-based defense think tank RUSI is similarly doubtful about the “hypersonic” label. “It doesn’t meet the maneuverability criteria for being a true hypersonic weapon,” he tells Popular Mechanics.

Their doubts are rooted in the Kinzhal’s lineage. It is an air-launched version of a ground-launched Iskander ballistic missile, with only fairly minor modifications for the new launch method. It was first seen in 2010 proposals for a weapon to be carried by a MiG-31 “Foxhound” fighter.
The quasi-ballistic approach is hardly unique; others, such as the U.S. Army’s ATACMS missile, do the same thing.The quasi-ballistic approach is hardly unique; others, such as the U.S. Army’s ATACMS missile, do the same thing.

Reuters....

KYIV, May 6 (Reuters) - Ukrainian air defences shot down a Russian hypersonic missile for the first time during an attack on the capital Kyiv this week, the Air Force said on Saturday, in a potentially major setback for the Kremlin's campaign of long-range air strikes.
The Kinzhal, which means "dagger" in Russian, is one of six "next generation" weapons unveiled by President Vladimir Putin in 2018 when the Russian leader boasted that it cannot be shot down by any of the world's air defence systems.

apnews.com...

Ukraine downs Russian hypersonic missile with US Patriot...

Even you must think it's a bad idea to give the Houthi rebels even more missiles to attack shipping or do you believe it's a clever tactic by Mad Vlad?

a reply to: Kurokage

Yes. Also from your source:

'As Lewis notes, anything which travels at more than Mach 5 is hypersonic in a narrow dictionary sense. This would include the complete range of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) as well as the original Iskander. In aerospace circles, though, the term “hypersonic” is used more specifically for vehicles which can maneuver freely at over Mach 5 inside Earth’s atmosphere—not for those that can only make minor course corrections."

No super duper plasma tech and only makes minor random course corrections.

And it has been downed by Patriot batteries.


Basically a pimped up air launched Iskander glide bomb.

a reply to: RussianTroll

"Plasma does not transmit control signals. But to make it let through signals, and not just let through, but let through its own and block other people’s - this is a super technology that is inaccessible to Western countries."

Which the Khinzal does not have.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yeah, its's not the 'magic' weapon Putin and Russiantroll here are claiming it to be. It's just sad that Putin is supplying more missiles to the Houthi rebels allowing them to attack shipping indiscriminately.

a reply to: Kurokage

The Khinzal seems to be used by Russia against civilian targets rather than military ones, so, basically a terror weapon.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Kurokage

The Khinzal seems to be used by Russia against civilian targets rather than military ones, so, basically a terror weapon.

Sadly, that seems very true, Russia seem to be using it as a weapon of terror against civillians in Ukraine, just as the Houthi will use it against civillian ships, so Putin is proberbly guilty of crimes aginst humanity there too.
It has made me wonder if Putin has supplied these more advanced ballistic weapons so the Houthi attack millitary ships, because Putin is to affraid to do it himself? We've seen whats happened to his own navy.

a reply to: RussianTroll


"- this is a super technology that is inaccessible to Western countries".

There is no such tech on the Khinzal.

As for Western Tech, have a look at the HAWC:


www.airforce-technology.com...

a reply to: Kurokage

Isn't the Khinzal air launched? Do Houthis have this capability?

Maybe Iskanders?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Kurokage

Isn't the Khinzal air launched? Do Houthis have this capability?

Maybe Iskanders?

I found some video of the Houthis trying a few flight launches...

a reply to: Kurokage

What? They have SU 57's?!!!!

Hypersonic weapons, claim the Houthis in Yemen
Allah u Akbyr, cry the Ansar Allah

a reply to: RussianTroll

Therefore, to prevent melting, the warhead must fly in a cloud of plasma. And this can be done. But another problem arises. Plasma does not transmit control signals. But to make it let through signals, and not just let through, but let through its own and block other people’s

The heat itself is what creates the plasma, when the air around missiles like Kinzhal is superheated it becomes plasma. Only letting through it's own signals would be undesirable because then it would still be visible on radar but not remote controllable, unlike a cruise missile that is visible but controllable. But that's not how it works, it uses inertial navigation when it's hypersonic.

originally posted by: MBakhtin
a reply to: RussianTroll

Therefore, to prevent melting, the warhead must fly in a cloud of plasma. And this can be done. But another problem arises. Plasma does not transmit control signals. But to make it let through signals, and not just let through, but let through its own and block other people’s

The heat itself is what creates the plasma, when the air around missiles like Kinzhal is superheated it becomes plasma. Only letting through it's own signals would be undesirable because then it would still be visible on radar but not remote controllable, unlike a cruise missile that is visible but controllable. But that's not how it works, it uses inertial navigation when it's hypersonic.

Sorry, but inertial navigation is not capable of making the warhead maneuver depending on the real situation.

In addition, inertial navigation involves scanning the area and comparing the image with the one stored in memory. And how to scan while in a plasma cloud?

a reply to: RussianTroll

No. That is not how inertial guidance works. The clue is in the word "inertial".


It makes random minor course changes so its path cannot be predicted. Random.

a reply to: RussianTroll

This is how inertial guidance works:

www.britannica.com...




"The basic components of an inertial guidance system are gyroscopes, accelerometers, and a computer. The gyroscopes provide fixed reference directions or turning rate measurements, and accelerometers measure changes in the velocity of the system. The computer processes information on changes in direction and acceleration and feeds its results to the vehicle’s navigation system."