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Americans most forgotten minority, Native Americans left for last...

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posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion



The US government gives billions and billions to the tribes, as well as land, free healthcare, education, monthly income, and pretty much anything else they want. They are sovereign for the most part.


If that was the case then why do so many Native American communities struggle with poverty, inadequate healthcare, education, and infrastructure?



40% of those tribes make billions themselves operating casinos.
Only 1% of those casino tribes support natives with any of that money.


As to your claim that only 1% of tribes operating casinos use their profits to support their members.

That would seem to require evidence to back it up.

Do you have concrete data and sources to validate such a statement?



Instead of asking what else the feds can do for the tribes, let’s talk about that elephant in the room.


Which is?
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posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

“If that was the case then why do so many Native American communities struggle with poverty, inadequate healthcare, education, and infrastructure?”

That’s the elephant. Why indeed?
Fiscal year 2022 shows $40,900,000,000 in gaming revenue. www.nigc.gov...
Sad that the tribal leaders aren’t taking care of their own.

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posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

How is that any sort of proof as to your claim only 1% of tribes operating casinos use their profits to support their members?

Again many native American communities struggle with poverty, inadequate healthcare, education, and infrastructure.

That's a fact that cannot be disputed.

Why is that, if indeed the government provides them billions of dollars, free land, free healthcare, education, and a monthly income?


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posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

America's richest Indian tribe has 99.2 per cent unemployment -- and it's all voluntary, tribal leaders boast.

There's little need for any member of the Shakopee Mdewakanton Tribe to work. Each adult in the 460-person American Indian nation receives more than $1million a year - for doing nothing. The payouts are the windfall from lucrative casinos and resorts that the tribe runs on its reservation in Scott County - about 45 minutes southwest of Minneapolis-St Paul.

The New York Times reports that the payments, $84,000 a month to each adult, were revealed in divorce filings involving one of the tribal members. The Shakopee keep modest homes on the reservation, but nearly every driveway sports at least one luxury car.
www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

So you're implying, that "Tribal Casinos" are not dividing their earnings amongst the tribe members, as is supposed to occur?

Or is there more than just that...



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

So your proof equates to a Daily Mail opinion piece?

These poor sods are some of the poorest people in your nation Vermilion.

So no matter what The New York Times reports, the majority of the poor sods don't receive $84,000 a month, or anything reminiscent of the sorts im afraid.

www.epi.org... e-pandemic/#:~:text=Between%202021%20and%202022%2C%20the,supplemental%20poverty%20line%20in%202022.
www.childtrends.org... verall-aian-population
www.ipr.northwestern.edu...
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posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Why is that if indeed the government provides them billions of dollars, free land, free healthcare, education, and a monthly income?


Through the American Rescue Plan, the Administration invested $32 billion in Tribal Nations and Native communities, the largest single financial assistance investment to Tribal governments in history.
www.whitehouse.gov... unities/#:~:text=Through%20the%20American%20Rescue%20Plan%2C%20the%20Administration%20invested%20%2432%20billion,to%20Tribal%20governments%20in%20hist ory.



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:13 PM
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“the majority of the poor sods don't receive $84,000 a month, or anything reminiscent of the sorts im afraid.”

That’s the point.
Most tribes DONT take care of their people.

Surely there’s a happy median between $84,000 per month and $0 per month?
Let’s ask the tribal leaders.



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Not quite sure how that proves any of the claims you are making.

Seems to be that that around 1 in 4 native americans live in poverty.

Again if your government was providing them billions of dollars, free land, free healthcare, education, and a monthly income one would imagine they would be doing a lot better than they are.

en.wikipedia.org...
www.ipr.northwestern.edu...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

The point is 1 in 4 native Americans live in poverty which hardly equates to your government giving them all the things you seem to be claiming.

You're also not providing any proof "Most tribes DONT take care of their people."



Surely there’s a happy median between $84,000 per month and $0 per month?
Let’s ask the tribal leaders.


What tribal leaders, and how would we do that?
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posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:22 PM
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they are not a big enough voting block for the majority of congress to care about.

Much like the veteran population, they are great to use as a prop, not big enough to expend political capitol helping.

Problem on the reservation, out of sight, out of mind.



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Again if your government was providing them billions of dollars, free land, free healthcare, education, and a monthly income one would imagine they would be doing a lot better than they are.

Ive posted links proving the US gives tribes $32,000,000,000 per year IN ADDITION to the $40,900,000,000 per year the tribes make from casinos.

I would imagine they would be doing better than they are as well.
It doesn’t make sense to me either.
Ask the tribal leaders.



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Your links don't prove what you're claiming mate.

What you imagine is neither here nor there.

The fact of the matter is that around 1/4(one in four)of the native American people appear to living in poverty.

And that doesn't follow with the implications you're making that the government is giving each adult $84,000 per month, free land, free healthcare, and education.

I think if we could ask the tribal leaders they would paint rather a different picture which would not be anything reminiscent of the bed of roses you seem to be describing.



posted on Feb, 11 2024 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: mysterioustranger

If I understand the Bible prophesies correctly it's only going to take about 20 years. Maybe less. And then there won't be a white man in North America. And not that many Indians either.



posted on Feb, 12 2024 @ 04:04 AM
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a reply to: ntech620

The events and locations described in the Bible focus on the near East ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt, Israel, and surrounding areas.

I don't seem to recall the book mentioning the Americas never mind North America.

What is it you assume will happen to all the white man and Indians?



posted on Feb, 13 2024 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

To put it as simply as possible. (otherwise this would be pages of stuff. )

Hosea 6-2 and the day of Jezreel prophecy. Put simply there was a 2000 year curse put on the 1st century Jews and Israelites. Based on the Genesis 48 and 49 prophesies most of the world today has a link back to Jacob/Israel of the Bible by now. With the addition of the Romans 11 olive tree parable that makes Christians "adopted Israelites".

So that puts the Christian Apocalypse happening and over with by 2033 approximately. Leaving only a few hundred million people actually making it to the 1000 year reign of the saints/day of Jezreel. And most likely they'll be back in the middle east/Israel area.

North and South America should be vacant of people by then. A world without people for a few hundred years at least.

Also: It appears the US becomes part of the kingdom of the north of Daniel 11. That would make it part of the end times Babylon of Revelation. This Babylon gets destroyed in the end. Hence my prediction.


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posted on Feb, 14 2024 @ 04:15 AM
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Well, thanks for the response ntech620.

Who cursed them?



posted on Feb, 14 2024 @ 05:56 AM
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Leaving only a few hundred million people actually making it to the 1000 year reign of the saints/day of Jezreel. And most likely they'll be back in the middle east/Israel area.


So, more or less the only people who will survive this Biblically foreseen Armageddon are those living in the Middle East, probably the single most volatile region in the world where literally everybody hates everybody else and where they have spent at least a thousand years or two trying their best to kill each other?



posted on Feb, 14 2024 @ 09:11 PM
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It was Jesus Christ that slapped them with a curse. And the reason was the death of John the Baptist.

Malachi 4.
5Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

Matthew 17
9And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.
10And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

Matthew 27
24When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.



posted on Feb, 14 2024 @ 09:33 PM
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Not necessarily the current occupants of the middle east will survive. Islamic prophesies of the end times have 90% of the world Muslims dying in their battle with the "Dabble" or Islamic Antichrist. After the death of the Antichrists Christian and Muslim versions the whore of Babylon is destroyed along with said Babylon. And I believe that to be kingdom of the north from Daniel 11.

So there will be a short period of time where Babylon is destroyed. And that would be most of Europe and the United States. Or the mess the United States is destined to become in a couple of years. Along with any other nations that allied with Europe and the US.




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