6,000 migrants land on Lampedusa in last 24 hours!

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

You havnt a clue have you?
The West are reaping what they have sown in Africa
Stolen African resources for over a couple of centuries and didn’t expect this time to come, how dumb.

This modern reality is the direct result of Western colonialism, how you can’t see that beggars belief

I would link but, clearly you don’t regard them

a reply to: Raggedyman

I do agree Raggedy that the West in some ways is realising what it sowed yes. We gave the natives medicine to prevent death disease, this led to the insane population growth in a region that was very lightly populated. In many ex British colonies the population has gone through the roof while at the same time we gave them agriculture yet this was never going to do enough to feed them, hence we now have this invasion. But this is too simple as a single reason, by your reckoning we should blame a Rabbi from the Galilee for inventing a new path way of living in light and love, his vision being taken 2000 years down the line by the missionaries during the 19th and 20th centuries into the heart of Africa and Asia. We can all look back yes and there are reasons for sure yet modern warfare is playing its part in forcing people to move to Italy, Putin knows this works always has done, at the same time flooding Europe with Slavs from Ukraine, etc, Sunni's from Syria. It's a genius plan (from Russia's point of view) that will cause internal conflict within Europe leading to the rise of right wing parties. Russia perfected this plan 100 years ago when it forcibly pushed millions and millions of East European Jews into central and western Europe and on to the America's etc which caused the emergence in of extreme right wing parties everywhere and we know what that led to.......... WW2

Think of the Logistics of this!
6000 people, 130 boats, 46/47 in each boat.
Only a country like US/CIA could do this.
yes China or USSR to!

a reply to: buddha
They are averaging 50 people in each boat at a minimum of £2k per person. That's £100k for the 'enablers' per trip.
All of a sudden, in a 24 hour period there are 160 boats moving 8,000 people with a minimum of £2k each for their 'ferry master'. You do the maths, that's small change for some 'organisation' to fund enough boats to carry 'a small army' of mainly young men to cause chaos in Europe with the flick of a switch.
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: angelchemuel
The question I have is this..... who is behind this, what can only be described as an ongoing invasion?
160 boats in just over 24 hours to a tiny little Italian island???? What else would you call it????
This is feeling far too organised to be put down to just 'fair weather' for crossings!
Rainbows
Jane

Most of you don't read MSM, so I'm not sure of how aware you are of the situation in Libya.

They've had massive flooding and I suspect many of them are running from that -- lost housing, family, friends, and all infrastructure has vanished. Workplaces simply aren't there.

I'm pretty sure this factors into it.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: Raggedyman

I do agree Raggedy that the West in some ways is realising what it sowed yes. We gave the natives medicine to prevent death disease, this led to the insane population growth in a region that was very lightly populated. In many ex British colonies the population has gone through the roof while at the same time we gave them agriculture yet this was never going to do enough to feed them, hence we now have this invasion. But this is too simple as a single reason, by your reckoning we should blame a Rabbi from the Galilee for inventing a new path way of living in light and love, his vision being taken 2000 years down the line by the missionaries during the 19th and 20th centuries into the heart of Africa and Asia. We can all look back yes and there are reasons for sure yet modern warfare is playing its part in forcing people to move to Italy, Putin knows this works always has done, at the same time flooding Europe with Slavs from Ukraine, etc, Sunni's from Syria. It's a genius plan (from Russia's point of view) that will cause internal conflict within Europe leading to the rise of right wing parties. Russia perfected this plan 100 years ago when it forcibly pushed millions and millions of East European Jews into central and western Europe and on to the America's etc which caused the emergence in of extreme right wing parties everywhere and we know what that led to.......... WW2

Very interesting comments, as well as @angelchemuel:
"All of a sudden, in a 24 hour period there are 160 boats moving 8,000 people with a minimum of £2k each for their 'ferry master'. You do the maths, that's small change for some 'organisation' to fund enough boats to carry 'a small army' of mainly young men to cause chaos in Europe with the flick of a switch."

So the reasoning behind this invasion is 'internal conflict' and 'chaos' - a very dangerous situation.

a reply to: Byrd
Very possible, 20,000 deaths so far and counting. So would you say Libya is sending boatloads over? If so why when they would need these people to help re-build. It's only one particular coastal area that has been really hard hit, so I understand.
It would be good to know where exactly all these boats have come from to Italy.
Rainbows
Jane

if only musk et al would spend cash on feeding folks instead of space exploration this kind of thing could all be avoided

originally posted by: angelchemuel
....and they are still arriving! The figure is now up to 8,000 and 160 boats!
.....and..... France has also now closed it's borders to Italy...
France seals border with Italy
Rainbows
Jane

Good job France I say... at least they've actually acted upon this invasion.... because that is what it is.... just a shame they didn't act sooner and stopped those Migrants/Illegals from crossing the British Channel! It's also a shame the Brits have a taxi service into Dover!

I think this is a war now.... actually since 2001.... its been an ongoing war and now we are seeing many people come to Europe ready and waiting to take up arms! 22 years in the making.... can't be much longer before it all kicks off in Europe!

a reply to: RonnieJersey

"So the reasoning behind this invasion is 'internal conflict' and 'chaos' - a very dangerous situation."

For sure and due to a combination of Putin's foreign wars in asia and africa, insane population growth, bad management and corruption by the natives, a general desire 'make it' rather than continue to live in sh*t hole countries which has always been a push to population movements worldwide.

originally posted by: musicismagic
a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Biden's plan to destabilize America.

Bidens plan to get 118 million votes next election

originally posted by: AlexandrosTheGreat


Arizona, where my home is in the states, was overrun ages ago and our state, more than any other, can testify that the gang violence, cheap drugs (a pill of fentanyl is $0.50 here. I here they go for $10 or $20 elsewhere), and all the other problems that are brought by uneducated illegal immigrants don’t make for the shiny happy people holding hands that the left keeps drawing a picture of…

$0.50!?!?? That is almost hard to believe!!!! 50 cents is insane, easily $20-$40 in other parts of the country.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Lots of the illegal immigrants coming by boats here in the UK are Afghans, Albanians, Romanians, Eastern Europeans, etc.

Ie. not African countries.:

a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Around 20% are North African according to recent statistics UK.Gov. No doubt they make the majority of immigrants to the North coast of the Med.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

Agreed, but I was not responding to that, it was another poster's generalisation.

For once I agree the west is starting to reap what they sow.

Nato took out a stable libya at the behest of that cackling witch, Yes he was a terrorist at one point but he also helped turn his nation in a solid educated anti-terrorist blockade in north africa. (also the people were fairly well off, certainly better than a large chunk of africa)

Throw in the flooding and the still ongoing civil war with terror groups in the mix, what do people expect.

ETA: note: everyone assumes the big bad are based in a developed nation, africa has one of if not the largest deposits of essentially untapped fresh water, tons of natural resources still, and for the most part govts that will tilt in anyway someone with a lot of money wants. If they are there why wouldnt they want to drive most of the plebs out and cause chaos elsewhere.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Raggedyman

Lots of the illegal immigrants coming by boats here in the UK are Afghans, Albanians, Romanians, Eastern Europeans, etc.

Ie. not African countries.

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So great?
What’s that go to do with Italy and the Mediterranean
Is my geography a bit messy and the UK is on the Med?

The UK have their own post colonial hangover, irrelevant to this thread

Well according to the news a certain Sir Kier stab in the back traitor Starmer has just gone to the EU to get a deal whereby they stop the boats coming from France (some hopes of that) on the understanding that the UK will willingly accept virtually double the amount of migrants from anywhere in the EU. And that can be from Italy.

a reply to: crayzeed

Indeed. He's opposed all Govt attempts to deal with this problem.

Here's a new video about the over 7,000 people that have suddenly appeared.

www.youtube.com...

The Italian Red Cross says more than 120 migrants landed on the island of Lampedusa overnight. That's after the arrival of some 7,000 people in recent days. They came from North Africa, overwhelming the island's reception center and setting off a migration crisis for both Italy's far-right government and the European Union. DW's Christine Mhundwa is on Lampedusa, where she found out how some of the new arrivals are coping with the situation.

They are being shipped out to Sicily and other places. They have lots of travel time left to find 'home'. I can't imagine what it's done to the people on that island. But evidently this isn't a new issue.

Lampedusa is an eight square mile island located in the Mediterranean Sea. It is located roughly 70 miles from Tunisia, which actually makes it closer to Africa than Europe. It is a part of Italy and is populated by approximately 6,000 people.

In recent years, thousands of migrant arrived in Lampedusa. In 2013, over 13,000 migrants came to this small island by boat. This is a sharp decrease from 60,000 people that passed through the island in 2011. However, this large influx of migrants continues and puts a large pressure on the island. What is Lampedusa doing to house migrants?

Lampedusa, being a tiny island with a very small population, does not have the resources or the housing to hold the sharp influx of migrants. The remnants of an old naval base are used to help house migrants while they wait to get sent to another part of Italy to have their case heard.

However, this base only has a capacity of 800 people. In some cases, it used to house thousands of migrants. Migrants are supposed to stay for only a few days on the island but reports have shown that most of them stay for two to three weeks before leaving. During the day, migrants wander the streets since the shelters are only meant to be used during the night.

Sounds almost like a transition port.