Elon Musk to develop 'TruthGPT' as he warns about 'civilizational destruction' from AI

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Do you post anything but doom porn?

Whats amusing is your lack of understanding pretraining to the subject.

Tell us all about the dangers of AI using your own words and not other people's please?

Again ChatGPT and the like are language models, nothing more, nothing less.

They are not sentient or self-aware which is what would constitute a strong AI.

Now if you could get your head around that concept and understand the difference and limitations you may actually be able to articulate yourself somewhat better with regard to the subject.

Got to go get the kid from school now, but you have fun spreading Mr Musks doom porn on toast.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Grenade

It's a smashing piece of code Grenade and can be immensely helpful and impressive

But it's still weak or narrow AI.

As opposed to strong AI which to date does not exist.

It cant reason the same way we do, or is in any way self-aware, hence in no way sentient, or comparable to Human intellect.

Chat GPT-4 does not even have the ability to modify its own source code.

Again it's a very impressive piece of software but its not dangerous and can only generate responses based on the input it receives.

Yes keep the strawman arguments going on. As if anyone has claimed here that AI has become self aware and independent and the world will be destroyed in a month.


Woke it's simply the usual leftists and radical leftists who are detached from reality. I am sure they are unable to understand the dangers posed by AI. But they are perfectly fine with arguing men can get pregnant or that there are 72 genders.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Do you post anything but doom porn?

Whats amusing is your lack of understanding pretraining to the subject.

Tell us all about the dangers of AI using your own words and not other people's please?

Again ChatGPT and the like are language models, nothing more, nothing less.

They are not sentient or self-aware which is what would constitute a strong AI.

Now if you could get your head around that concept and understand the difference and limitations you may actually be able to articulate yourself somewhat better with regard to the subject.

Got to go get the kid from school now, but you have fun spreading Mr Musks doom porn on toast.

I have already done in my opening page but you haven't read the post and neither you have listened to the interview that I have linked.

So another argument refuted.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Only in your own head doom porn merchant.

Still waiting for you to explain the dangers of AI using your own words?

Canny type, read, and drive, so i won't hold my breath in that department.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Only in your own head doom porn merchant.

Still, waiting for you to explain the dangers of AI using your own words?

Canny type, read, and drive, so i won't hold my breath in that department.

Opening page. It only takes a few minutes to read. My own words.


In the meantime, just listen what Hawking said:

There are are several dangers associated directly with Artificial Intelligence. As the famous Physicist Steven Hawking said, the development of AI could spell the end of the human civilization and the end of the human race.

a reply to: andy06shake

It certainly helps me when coding and can “realise” it’s mistakes.

As someone with 20 years experience and a degree in computer science I’m well positioned to understand how it generates responses and it’s limitations. However it’s neural net and the way the AI is trained isn’t the same as how a traditional system works. It can’t directly edit its code, however interactions do indeed train the system automatically to an extent.

If you’re interested I can PM some of the chats I’ve had with it, showing that the system can indeed adapt.

a reply to: nickyw

They sure are useful, but they are still far from intelligent.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Only in your own head doom porn merchant.

Still waiting for you to explain the dangers of AI using your own words?

Canny type, read, and drive, so i won't hold my breath in that department.

Hawking was very aware of the dangers of AI. Sane is true for Elon Musk. These are not doom porn scenarios.

You seem not to be able to appreciate the dangers posed by artificial intelligence. But you do appointment and believe men can become women and men can get pregnant...

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: nickyw

They sure are useful, but they are still far from intelligent.

I don't think Musk or anybody here has suggested that AI is strong enough to become independent from human control and destroy humanity. The discussion is what could happen in the future. The rest is just strawman arguments made by andyshake06 who is also calling a real possibility 'doom porn' scenarios.

a reply to: Grenade

As long as it can be related to language, they can give good results, that's true.

a reply to: Grenade



Im on the move right now Grenade.

But yes ile have a gander at the chats if you PM me, might not be right away all the same weans got football practice.

Immensely interested in the subject and the technology, taken to its logical conclusion my guess would be coding would be a field in which it could excel.

It could also allow people who don't code or have a limited aptitude for such to create programs and apps.

And that just one avenue in which the technology could shine.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: andy06shake

It certainly helps me when coding and can “realise” it’s mistakes.

As someone with 20 years experience and a degree in computer science I’m well positioned to understand how it generates responses and it’s limitations. However it’s neural net and the way the AI is trained isn’t the same as how a traditional system works. It can’t directly edit its code, however interactions do indeed train the system automatically to an extent.

If you’re interested I can PM some of the chats I’ve had with it, showing that the system can indeed adapt.

You see Andy has a degree in Technology and Media as he said. He was able to deduce that all dangers posed by AI are just doom porn emanating from Elon Musk. You could say the same about Steven Hawking I suppose.

a reply to: nickyw

I've never actually looked up the term (wiki I know) and didn't realise it had that much history.

woke - wiki link

My understanding of 'woke' was always one of raising awareness around discrimination whilst working towards stopping prejudice and victimisation.

Political divides or even religion should have absolutely naff all to do with equality in regards to human rights and representation under the law. That said definitions change, when I was a kid woke was what the hippies and the likes went on about.

Seems like a slur that many participate in, we Brits have a classic word for that

It looks like Elon Musk is a huge problem in the woke brigade. Exposing the association between certain software and left-wing woke programmers or what it could happen when AI becomes very powerful. This only a few days after Musk obliterated the Human (not artificial) intelligence of James Clayton, the woke activist and ideologist BBC reporter. It wasn't that hard after all.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Still waiting to tell us what these dangers posed by weak AI actually are. LoL

And the degree is in "Information Technology & Media Studies" not Technology and Media.

As to what i can deduce well that would be the difference between what constitutes weak and strong AI and the limitations of such.

Next.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: andy06shake

It certainly helps me when coding and can “realise” it’s mistakes.

As someone with 20 years experience and a degree in computer science I’m well positioned to understand how it generates responses and it’s limitations. However it’s neural net and the way the AI is trained isn’t the same as how a traditional system works. It can’t directly edit its code, however interactions do indeed train the system automatically to an extent.

If you’re interested I can PM some of the chats I’ve had with it, showing that the system can indeed adapt.

You see Andy has a degree in Technology and Media as he said. He was able to deduce that all dangers posed by AI are just doom porn emanating from Elon Musk. You could say the same about Steven Hawking I suppose.

So your point is, AI will never be anything more than a dumb box that pretends to be alive and scientists can't expand on that formula to simulate life and sentience and autonomy?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Still waiting to tell us what these dangers posed by weak AI actually are. LoL

And the degree is in "Information Technology & Media Studies" not Technology and Media.

As to what i can deduce well that would be the difference between what constitutes weak and strong AI and the limitations of such.

Next.

Opening page.

Several paragraphs that are my own words.

You seem to be loosing pretty much every argument in this thread.

Well I am sure that Information Technology and Media Studies make you knowledgeable in the subject so not a big issue that I missed the Information part...

A machine doesn't have human emotions.

Now if they come up with a way to connect the brain to an AI Terminator, yes, its all over.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: andy06shake

It certainly helps me when coding and can “realise” it’s mistakes.

As someone with 20 years experience and a degree in computer science I’m well positioned to understand how it generates responses and it’s limitations. However it’s neural net and the way the AI is trained isn’t the same as how a traditional system works. It can’t directly edit its code, however interactions do indeed train the system automatically to an extent.

If you’re interested I can PM some of the chats I’ve had with it, showing that the system can indeed adapt.

You see Andy has a degree in Technology and Media as he said. He was able to deduce that all dangers posed by AI are just doom porn emanating from Elon Musk. You could say the same about Steven Hawking I suppose.

So your point is, AI will never be anything more than a dumb box that pretends to be alive and scientists can't expand on that formula to simulate life and sentience and autonomy?

Perhaps you need to ask andy06shake about this as he is the one insinuating that AI can never become self aware or pose threats to humans.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Just because you make the claim doom porn kid does not make it so.

As to what i have lost, that would be patience listening to your repetitive nonsense and praise for your lord God Elon.

As to the "big issue" you should probably try selling those as you certainly don't understand them.

Again Chat GPT-4 and the like are language models, and in no way constitute strong AI hence are not a credible threat to humanity bar possibly the creation of unemployment for a lot of people somewhere down the line.

Now where being able to distinguish what is fake news and what is real is concerned, well you already have severe issues in that department, hence the doom porn you post repeatedly no less.