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Ohio Spill and the far reaching impact

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posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 11:14 AM
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The list of hazardous materials burnt off in East Palestine, Ohio

Tweet from Citizen Free Press



posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm


Yeeh , there was Bhopal disaster in India 1984 , a lot people died soon, but much more people got injured by toxic gas then...that`s still the Worlds worst chemical accident i believe. The nature of toxic gases makes this Ohio thing so dangerous .

The rich never drink tap water .

Everyone should have Berkey water filter , or other similarly good. Thought if the toxic stuf is in the air, only getting out from the location help .



posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Is anyone aware of a list of food, water, and animal products that are being produced in the affected Ohio area?

It would seem important to know which products to not consume or buy. 🤔


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posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: imitator

Swiss cheese, eggs and tomatoes and pumpkins are produced in Ohio.
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posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 12:29 PM
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posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 01:28 PM
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So this happened too...
www.wpxi.com...



posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: Bigburgh
So this happened too...
www.wpxi.com...


Love how Shell is giving people air monitoring devices. If that isn’t the fox guarding the henhouse.



posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 02:17 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

This one, I am a little closer... 🙄👍😉

They're trying to choke us out from the west!


Edit: there's a nuclear power plant just down the way from that shell plant. It had some soot contaminate the area around it... Some metal scraps had to be carefully removed.

Hah, that was the iodine capsule supply crisis. Just a couple of years ago.
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posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: igloo
a reply to: JAGStorm
Did you see this recent movie about a toxic train crash in ohio?

"Actors in the film from East Palestine faked an evacuation & months later are doing it in real life."

movie White Noise


This movie was the first thing came to mind when I read about Ohio. It’s an incredibly strange, uncanny coincidence.

Reminds me of the X-Files spin off The Lone Gunmen episode which had an airliner fly into a building in NY not long before it happened for real.

It’s almost as though Ohio was to divert the media from Nord Stream, but it got out of hand so they started shooting down balloons and calling them ufos to divert from Ohio

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posted on Feb, 14 2023 @ 07:46 PM
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Surprised this thread isn't more active, unless I couldn't find the bigger one..

Anyhow, thought I would add some info. National guard and police arrested NewsNation reporter Evan Lambert several days back.

Evan Lambert was reporting live from a press conference by Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine. Police asked him to stop broadcasting and he complied but then was escorted out before being arrested. Insane!


At the news conference, authorities said sampling had shown air quality in the area was safe and residents could return home, although DeWine said some residents may want to wait until the air inside their homes is checked.

The news conference started more than two hours late and DeWine started speaking at the same instant Lambert had to do a live broadcast from the back of the gym, Preston Swigart, a photographer who was with Lambert, told NewsNation.

Swigart said police officers approached Lambert and asked him to stop talking. Lambert finished the live report but was then asked to leave by authorities, who tried to forcibly remove him from the event, NewsNation reported.


Here is a news report on the incident:



For those that prefer to read, here is a decent one: apnews.com...


The train axle was melting down 20 miles before it reached East Palestine. A hot box detector detected the axle overheating. It is not determine when the attempted to stop, officially, but if it took 20 miles then they obviously were not signaled in time.

www.post-gazette.com...


Now, I am sure you are aware that Norfolk Southern is the railroad company this train belongs too. If you dig deep enough you will find the biggest stockholders for Norfolk Southern is Blackrock, Vanguard, and JPMorgan.

Norfolk Southern has quite the history. I highly recommend reading up on this article. It is very good at explaining what lead to this incident and why there will continue to be more incidents like this, thanks to greed.


Before this weekend’s fiery Norfolk Southern train derailment prompted emergency evacuations in Ohio, the company helped kill a federal safety rule aimed at upgrading the rail industry’s Civil War-era braking systems, according to documents reviewed by The Lever.

Though the company’s 150-car train in Ohio reportedly burst into 100-foot flames upon derailing — and was transporting materials that triggered a fireball when they were released and incinerated — it was not being regulated as a “high-hazard flammable train,” federal officials told The Lever.


This train was not considered to be carrying Hazardous Material, thanks to lobbying. Had it been considered to be hauling Hazardous Material, they would have had to take much more safety precautions, but they were able to bypass them.


Documents show that when current transportation safety rules were first created, a federal agency sided with industry lobbyists and limited regulations governing the transport of hazardous compounds. The decision effectively exempted many trains hauling dangerous materials — including the one in Ohio — from the “high-hazard” classification and its more stringent safety requirements.

Amid the lobbying blitz against stronger transportation safety regulations, Norfolk Southern paid executives millions and spent billions on stock buybacks — all while the company shed thousands of employees despite warnings that understaffing is intensifying safety risks. Norfolk Southern officials also fought off a shareholder initiative that could have required company executives to “assess, review, and mitigate risks of hazardous material transportation.”


This incident is due to corruption and greed within both parties.


Specifically, regulators killed provisions requiring rail cars carrying hazardous flammable materials to be equipped with electronic braking systems to stop trains more quickly than conventional air brakes. Norfolk Southern had previously touted the new technology — known as Electronically Controlled Pneumatic (ECP) brakes — for its “potential to reduce train stopping distances by as much as 60 percent over conventional air brake systems.”

But the company’s lobby group nonetheless pressed for the rule’s repeal, telling regulators that it would “impose tremendous costs without providing offsetting safety benefits.”

That argument won out with Trump officials — and the Biden administration has not moved to reinstate the brake rule or expand the kinds of trains subjected to tougher safety regulations.


To make it short. Obama proposed regulations back in 2014. The regulations were narrowed down after the railroad industry made a fuss. What followed is exempting trains carrying many other combustible materials, including Vinyl Chloride.

When Trump came along, the railroads lobbied again. Trump allowed the regulators to do away with provisions requiring trains carrying hazardous material to be equipped with the ECP brakes.


But instead of investing in the safety feature, the seven largest freight railroad companies in the U.S., including Norfolk Southern, spent $191 billion on stock buybacks and shareholder dividends between 2011 and 2021, far more than the $138 billion those firms spent on capital investments in the same time period.

The same companies also slashed their workforces by nearly 30 percent in that timeframe as part of what they called “precision scheduled railroading.” Such staffing cuts are likely contributing to safety issues in freight railways. In a recent investor presentation, Norfolk Southern disclosed an increase in train accidents over the past three consecutive years.


Greed at the expense of the people and the land.


Last fall, President Joe Biden and Congress helped the industry crush an effort by rail workers to win paid sick leave by intervening to block a strike.

As the industry has resisted safety measures and shed staff, rail companies have increased the length of trains. Norfolk Southern was the leader in this category as of 2021, with an average train length of over 7,000 feet — which is 1.3 miles, or more than 100 rail cars. The Norfolk Southern train that derailed in Ohio was 9,300 feet long, or nearly 1.8 miles.


www.levernews.com...

I know that I am using a bunch of snippets from the article, but hopefully this will give people a good idea of what is going on. Sorry for the long post. I highly recommend giving the article a read, it is quite long and detailed.
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posted on Feb, 15 2023 @ 06:34 PM
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from the NOAA : NOAA Offical report

Particle data : Image

That is quite the fallout we have here. it may have already displaced, but that stuff blew right over my head here in Ontario...



posted on Feb, 15 2023 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: that1lurker

Thank YOU for that brilliant post.
I didn’t think it was possible but I’m even more sickened by the whole thing.
When I read the names involved there is a part of me that seriously wonders…. Accident or …..



posted on Feb, 15 2023 @ 06:50 PM
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Accident - Or neglect from lack of funding ... more so the sabatosh choice of burning it - They don't care.. the people that run these companies don't care.. it is all a write-off.. Makes you wonder about the dictatorship of this order and the mindset of being forced to get the vaccine.. off topic but while we are here ... we were all lied to.. all I can think of is they need data to show more global warming and blame the people AND make them Sick while pointing the finger elsewhere .. and did we have a choice? yes. Did it make a difference? No.



posted on Feb, 15 2023 @ 11:41 PM
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Having watched the video below and listening to the description of the smell, the locals can't smell the sweet smell that is still hanging in the air, immediately took me back to the Grenfell fire. If the locals can't smell, or as the commentator says "they have got used to the smell"..... nah, nah, nah.....their olfactory sense has been damaged.
Now, I am no chemist, but my instinct is telling me this sounds like arsenic/cyanide poisoning or something just as deadly. There is a list of chemicals in the video.
Have some of these 'balloons' been collecting air quality data given the smoke could be seen from space? How high up into our atmosphere did the toxins go?
Then there is the ground and water, just like the ground/earth around Grenfell was contaminated, but that was 'covered up' or in Grenfell's case, top soil was removed to cover their tracks, but luckily samples had been taken before the council did it.

Rainbows
Jane
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posted on Feb, 16 2023 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: Kenzo

The water is as safe as the vaxx. Now drink up.



posted on Feb, 16 2023 @ 01:05 PM
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www.yahoo.com...




A public meeting that was meant to ease fears about a toxic chemical spill in an Ohio town only heightened anger when the rail firm at the heart of the disaster failed to show up.


Welp.. if that doesn’t give you warm and fuzzies…



posted on Feb, 17 2023 @ 11:25 AM
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There is a lady speaking out, Norfolk Southern is going around as “and independent water tester” trying to get
Locals to sign a paper.

At the bottom of the paper it basically says you hold them harmless.

These evil people are trying to trick people into giving their rights away!!!!



posted on Feb, 17 2023 @ 12:41 PM
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I hope we and the citizens of East Palestine start getting answers soon. They need a team of independent doctor's/scientists/veterinarians in there running a raft of blood tests on the population for starters. Then let the veterinary pathologists at the dead animals. Scientists who need to take water samples, soil samples etc.
Why is Erin Brockovich quiet about this?
Rainbows
Jane



posted on Feb, 17 2023 @ 12:55 PM
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originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: JAGStorm
I hope we and the citizens of East Palestine start getting answers soon. They need a team of independent doctor's/scientists/veterinarians in there running a raft of blood tests on the population for starters. Then let the veterinary pathologists at the dead animals. Scientists who need to take water samples, soil samples etc.
Why is Erin Brockovich quiet about this?
Rainbows
Jane




She is actually sounding the alarm!



posted on Feb, 17 2023 @ 01:00 PM
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Ah! Good. Just not found anything this side of The Pond yet.
Rainbows
Jane



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