Why Doctors Aren't Speaking Out, Written By A Doctor

a reply to: Kurokage

I can't be bothered, to be honest.

But he, or she, has form for constantly accusing others of being trolls, shills or sock puppets.

Some might say that that is ironic. I, couldn't possibly comment.

OP - please, for once, post credible sources and reply nicely when contrary evidence is presented to you?

originally posted by: Kurokage

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Notabot12345666

I see. Posters that disagree with you are paid shills.

This is tedious, and in breach of T&C's.

And no, I can't be bothered to report you.

You report me all the time but I don't give a f#.

Again posting comments without a shred of evidence!!

The Joker of ATS!

First of all, how would you know? Is this the same account?

Second of all, are you your brothers keeper? You guys act like a clique. "Yeah bro high five we got him!" It's cringey as hell. You should really time your replies longer as you're posting seconds after eachother then disappearing at the same time like some woke gang.

originally posted by: Roedeer
Those stories on the “Died Suddenly News” FB page are coming in fast and furious…from people that have had FB accounts for 15 years or more, so they are not fake..and it’s getting BAD out there for sure!! Soon people like your arraghzombie stalker and that guy that can’t get done reporting you for “misinformation” are gonna have to climb under a rock somewhere. a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Facebook posts are as reliable as V1rtusos' links to religious groups as scientific data!!

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

"LOL yep.. At least that's what the zombie's believe. They still demand "sources" when family, friends, community people and professionals are talking about their situations confirming all these things using the best advertising known to man, via "word of mouth"


Strange that no one I know, other than random anonymous posters on here, has ever experienced massive fatalities due to the shots?

Like, in real life?

But that's just my anecdotal evidence.

Just about as valid as yours, no?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Oh. Insinuating we are all sock puppets, again?

It's just all so tedious.

Post some proper sources, for a change.

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: nugget1
Nobody was held down?
I saw heartwrenching footages of children getting hunted down from running away to literally being held by adults against their will and then injected.
I could hardly watch.
The nurses did the talking and the hunting and the injecting.

Even doing it to people who tell them they are only doing it to keep their jobs.

Shame on anyone so happy to play Russian roulette with other humans.

I guess I should have specified 'adults' and not assumed everybody would know that's what we were talking about. Kids being subjected to vaccines at the hands of their parents is a whole separate and worthy of its own thread, IMO.
My apologies for the confusion.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
And yet your family, and friends and communities aren't posting these things on their social media accounts, and aren't discussing it on forums like Gab or Truth Social which aren't subject to MSM cnesorship.
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Uh yeah they are, there are facebook groups with 300k people posting comments at a rate of every few minutes.

Yeah, 'cause Facebook is a reliable source?? Just another stream of doom porn posters and opinion pieces.

Do you have special lightweight goalposts for constantly moving them, or are they on wheels?

I think all of us have known someone who was just a straight up liar...

like they have lied to you so much, that you just know that everything coming out of their mouth is bull#.

How do, or how should we treat such a person? Would any of you put your trust in anything that person says?

So now superimpose that common sense approach to the current situation with Covid, and all the multi letter appendages of the federal government that have given us "guidance" during the "pandemic."

How anyone can trust even one words that emanates from the mouths of anyone at the CDC, the NIH, the WHO, any health agency or doctor, any of them when they have lied non stop for over two years is beyond me.

Fake deaths.
Fake numbers.
Fake studies.
Fake doctors faking Covid on TV.
Fake Nurses faking PTSD.
Fake critiques of effective medication.
Fake treatment models.
Fake tests.
Fake pictures of fake covid wards.

Some are evidently no longer capable of rational thought.

a reply to: MaxxAction

Fake deaths.
Fake numbers.
Fake studies.
Fake doctors faking Covid on TV.
Fake Nurses faking PTSD.
Fake critiques of effective medication.
Fake treatment models.
Fake tests.
Fake pictures of fake covid wards.

Well, thats a lot of fake comments because you haven't added a single piece of evidence to back up your claims..

originally posted by: Kurokage

originally posted by: Roedeer
Those stories on the “Died Suddenly News” FB page are coming in fast and furious…from people that have had FB accounts for 15 years or more, so they are not fake..and it’s getting BAD out there for sure!! Soon people like your arraghzombie stalker and that guy that can’t get done reporting you for “misinformation” are gonna have to climb under a rock somewhere. a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Facebook posts are as reliable as V1rtusos' links to religious groups as scientific data!!

These posts are coming in so fast and so furious that nobody can provide us links for them, they're moving that fast and that furiously.

How many people here can find even a single facebook post where one well established user with a pre-covid account announces the death of another well-established user with a pre-covid account, due to the vax?

Has anybody on Facebook ever posted pictures of the funeral of a friend or relative that they've mentioned before covid, who died due to the vax?

Why is it that people who died from the vax that are mentioned on this forum don't have names. They're all friend of a friends, and they're all wealthy, because none of them have a Gofundme to cover expenses of funeral arrangements, and their kids all have trust funds because nobody needs money to help them.

My takeaway is that the vax is only anonymous millionaires who live next door to people's Canadian internet girlfriends.

a reply to: Kurokage

What is amazing is that all of these liars are apparently able to coordinate their lies with liars in other countries, because we're getting more or less the same accounts globally.

How do they all keep their stories straight?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Kurokage

What is amazing is that all of these liars are apparently able to coordinate their lies with liars in other countries, because we're getting more or less the same accounts globally.

How do they all keep their stories straight?

Yeah, thats the problem. It's very much "My Brothers Friends uncles grandfathers best mate, knows someone who knows someone who died of the vaccine"

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Are you suggesting that nobody has died from the vax at all?

If so, nothing you say can be taken seriously.

Your proof that nobody is dying from it is because you dont get any personal and private information on the deceased or that they dont have a go fund me? really? You do know that not everyone in this world begs for hand outs right? well, I know 3 people personally, 2 are that I worked with that once they got the jab, 1 died and another had some major organ failure issues and then died shortly after and the 3rd was my sister n law. And no, i'm not going to give you their names, where they are from, where the funeral was, what their death certificate says or any personal and private information, so don't even bother asking. I'm not here to prove anything to you. I'm just simply pointing out your ridiculous theories as to why you think nobody is dying of the vax.

You can sit there all day and say it's nothing but no amount of proof will make you believe anything, especially if its coming from someone else. In this day and age the ego is so strong that the only way for someone to actually be able to see the truth is for them to experience them self. The more people that present evidence, the more the ego will deny it simply for the fact that someone else brought it up.

a reply to: jidnum

You can sit there all day and say it's nothing but no amount of proof will make you believe anything, especially if its coming from someone else. In this day and age the ego is so strong that the only way for someone to actually be able to see the truth is for them to experience them self. The more people that present evidence, the more the ego will deny it simply for the fact that someone else brought it up.

Can you not see that's pretty much how anti-vaxers are? Someone dies running a marathon, oh thats the jab. Someone dies from a heart attack, oh thats the jab. Someone dies from a previous unknown illness they had, oh thats the jab.
I imagine that by now at least half the worlds population has had some form of the vaccine. If they were dying in the numbers claimed, the streets would be full of the dead. We'd be swimming in them, but we're not...
Then we have doom porn threads like "UK bans vaccine for kids" and it's completely false and untrue or "Massive drop in UK fertility" and again utterly fake.

Imagine being a newer doctor in your mid 30's with over 100K student debt a mortgage for a house, throw in a couple kids and a wife and being threatened with it all being taken away if you step out of line, it's blackmail at the highest level.
Do this OR ELSE !
Freedom of speech no longer exists for doctors, sure they can speak out, then they lose it all.

originally posted by: jidnum
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Are you suggesting that nobody has died from the vax at all?

The fact that I constantly reference Lisa Shaw pooves that I'm fully aware that people die from the vax.

your proof that nobody is dying from it is because you dont get any personal and private information on the deceased or that they dont have a go fund me?

No, that's my challenge to you. Demonstrate that these people were ever alive in the first place.

, i'm not going to give you their names, where they are from, where the funeral was, what their death certificate says or any personal and private information, so don't even bother asking.

If this were true, I'd expect you to be blasting their names all over the media. Just like the relatives of Lisa Shaw were.

I'm not here to prove anything to you. I'm just simply pointing out your ridiculous theories as to why you think nobody is dying of the vax.

You're actually proving what I'm saying, you claim to know all of these people who died, yet you can't even demonstrate that they were alive in the first place.

You can sit there all day and say it's nothing but no amount of proof will make you believe anything,

I believe that Lisa Shaw died, because I ave proof that she was alive before Covid.

The more people that present evidence, the more the ego will deny it simply for the fact that someone else brought it up.

So, about this evidence that you want me to see?

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Imagine being a newer doctor in your mid 30's with over 100K student debt a mortgage for a house, throw in a couple kids and a wife and being threatened with it all being taken away if you step out of line, it's blackmail at the highest level.
Do this OR ELSE !
Freedom of speech no longer exists for doctors, sure they can speak out, then they lose it all.

Imagine how much money you could make by blowing the whistle. Book deals, speaking tours, Youtube ads.

The clicks alone for this would pay off your debt.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

The thing is, this is all just in your imagination.

Unless, you have some evidence?

a reply to: Kurokage

Ok...

evidence, lets see. Oh yeah! Here's some, and I have a lot more, but if you come back with some stupid response, you get to do your own homework, or keep shilling.

In 2005 the NIH which Fauci was the head of published a paper that stated Chloroquine stopped SARS in it's tracks, via the same mechanism that is claimed in newer research on SARS COV2.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.


Now Jump forward 15 years to 2020, at the start of the "pandemic", and watch how this unfolds.

This is the "study" that claimed that HCQ was increasing mortality in Covid-19 patients.

www.thelancet.com...&utm_term=0_90d9431cd5-a5c0a299a0-126967137

It has since been discovered that the study was a total fraud, completely fabricated.

www.theguardian.com...

The gist of the article is this: The “study” that "concluded" that Hydroxychlorquine is unsafe, and responsible for increasing mortality rates in Covid-19 positive patients treated with that drug is very possibly a complete fabrication.

From the article:

"The study, led by the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Center for Advanced Heart Disease in Boston, examined patients in hospitals around the world, including in Australia. It said researchers gained access to data from five hospitals recording 600 Australian Covid-19 patients and 73 Australian deaths as of 21 April.

But data from Johns Hopkins University shows only 67 deaths from Covid-19 had been recorded in Australia by 21 April. The number did not rise to 73 until 23 April. The data relied upon by researchers to draw their conclusions in the Lancet is not readily available in Australian clinical databases, leading many to ask where it came from.

The federal health department confirmed to Guardian Australia that the data collected on notifications of Covid-19 in the National Notifiable Diseases Surveillance System was not the source for informing the trial."

So in short, those who put this study out there as valid drew on imaginary data. The dates are wrong, and the reporting system used officially by Australia was NOT the source of this information. The Health ministries of New South Wales, and Victoria provinces, which had the highest numbers of Covid-19 infections, deaths, and hospitalizations said the data in the study was off in every category.

Furthermore, the lead author claimed to take the data from a medical website called Surgisphere, which one doctor said he had never heard of, and the data does not have "Ethical Approval."

“Ethical approval is needed for any research that involves human participants; their tissue and /or data to ensure that the dignity, rights, safety and well-being of all participants are the primary consideration of the research project.” " Why you must apply for ethical approval | Research and ...

www.imperial.ac.uk › what-is-ethics- › why-you-mus

Another glaring problem with the results of the study is that there was apparently no one involved from any of the hospitals cited that would have given the site "Surgisphere" access to the data.

Dr Allen Cheng, an epidemiologist and infectious disease doctor with Alfred Health in Melbourne, said the Australian hospitals involved in the study should be named. He said he had never heard of Surgisphere, and no one from his hospital, The Alfred, had provided Surgisphere with data.

“Usually to submit to a database like Surgisphere you need ethics approval, and someone from the hospital will be involved in that process to get it to a database,” he said. He said the dataset should be made public, or at least open to an independent statistical reviewer.

“If they got this wrong, what else could be wrong?” Cheng said. It was also a “red flag” to him that the paper listed only four authors.

“Usually with studies that report on findings from thousands of patients, you would see a large list of authors on the paper,” he said. “Multiple sources are needed to collect and analyse the data for large studies and you usually see that acknowledged in the list of authors.”

Even more confounding, that shining pillar of leadership and solid information (sarcasm off) the W.H.O. claimed that the negative results of the study cited is the reason that they stopped their own HCQ trials.

Wouldn't it be convenient for the Pharmaceutical industry, maybe just one particular company, if a drug, say, HCQ which had been safely used by millions over a period of six decades, and is extremely cheap suddenly starts causing more deaths in people treated with it?

Here's where it gets even weirder.

It is pretty easy to explain why the doctors had not heard of Surgisphere, the company that allegedly provided the data for the seemingly fabricated study.

Up until March of 2020, Surgisphere was seemingly a NOBODY. I checked their twitter feed, and they had almost zero activity up until March of 2020 when they got a predictive model for the treatment of Covid-19 approved, since which time it has been instituted for use in over 1000 hospitals. Things that make you go hmmmm.

I made some screen captures of their twitter feed, which was kind of a ghost town for a long time. There were several posts in 2011, a few in 2012, two posts in 2013, one in 2014, two in 2016, two in 2017, then nothing till March of 2020, when their twitter feed blew up as they brought their cash cow predictive treatment model online, now being referenced by over 1k hospitals, just in time to "save us" and provide good data for treatment of Covid -19. Data which just happens to start out claiming HCQ is dangerous and causes higher mortality in Covid-19 patients.

We then discovered that the study put out by the fakes at Surgisphere was the basis for a predictive treatment model that immediately went into use at over 1k hospitals world wide. As it turns out, that treatment recommendation model recommends Remdesivir for every patient.

Here's the thing about Remdesivir, it doesn't seem to be as effective as the HCQ cocktail at defeating and curing Covid-19.

www.statnews.com...

The antiviral medicine remdesivir from Gilead Sciences failed to speed the improvement of patients with Covid-19 or prevent them from dying, according to results from a long-awaited clinical trial conducted in China. Gilead, however, said the data suggest a “potential benefit.”

A summary of the study results was inadvertently posted to the website of the World Health Organization and seen by STAT, but then removed.

a reply to: MaxxAction

Then consider that the FDA revoked it's EUA for HCQ based on this bogus "fake" study. Then consider State governors outlawed it's use, and overrode doctors by telling pharmacists to not fill prescriptions for HCQ.

Now consider that several members of the Covid-19 panel that were directing treatment protocol were/are financially tied to Gilead Sciences.


How much more evidence of a concerted effort to suppress the use of effective medications do you need?

This was mass murder for profit.