The Discovery of the Hall of Records.

a reply to: Madrusa

A lot of the false assumptions about the Hall of Records today seem to stem from Edgar Cayce.

Psychic Edgar Cayce had several readings about the Hall of Records. He claimed that in 1998 the Hall would be discovered and opened and humanity would move into a new era of prosperity. "The history of the Earth would be found in the right shoulder of the Sphinx." Cayce also suggested that the opening would coincide with the Second Coming of Christ. He was wrong.

Cayce had a Masonic NWO agenda, advised Woodrow Wilson on the creation of the league of nations, the Atlantis ideas were built off Francis Bacon's New Atlantis Jewish fantasy... obviously Cayce was a shill.

The Hall of Records is a purported ancient library claimed to lie under the Great Sphinx of Giza. There is no evidence to indicate that it ever existed.

Proponents believe that an ancient Atlantean civilization stored documents under the Sphinx. The claim is considered pseudoscientific and to be associated with the New Age movement. Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval have promoted the idea in the book Message of the Sphinx.

Since then the ideas been used to sell a lot of books and new agey tours, but often the idea behind Sethian overlaying of narratives is to cover truth and have people searching in the wrong place for it. Fake paths that either lead back to them, or nowhere... similar destinations.

a reply to: primalfractal

Such speculations were already well established by the time of Cayce.

Lewis had claimed to possess ancient maps showing the brotherhood’s secret hall of records below Giza, a myth familiar from its parallel claim in Edgar Cayce’s prophecies, and originating in the Arab pyramid myth and the belief, abstracted from Enoch’s wisdom pillars and Hermes Trismegistus’s antediluvian subterranean temple-writings, that the pyramids’ hidden chambers contained books and inscriptions describing “the nature of all things, the science of law and the laws of all the sciences” and “books they had written on gold leaf in which they had recorded the past and the future” . In other words, the Hall of Records was just warmed over medieval texts that Lewis and Cayce could be pretty sure English-speakers had never read.

Hall of Records underneath the Great Sphinx.

There wasn't really any Egyptian flood myth, but the Classical period interest in Thoth-Hermes was based on the fact that there had been great libraries dedicated to Thoth and connected to the Egyptian institution of the House of Life, throw in the Greek interest of Atlantis and the Jewish influence of the Great Flood and the Watchers and the connection to Egypt and the preservation of Ante-Diluvian knowledge was already being speculated upon during the Classical period.

Antediluvian Pyramid myth

It's this association of Atlantis and the Great Flood that formed the basis of the Rosicrucian esoteric speculation, and it is important to note that the Atlantis mythos begins with a tale of (two) pillars.

Proclus wrote: As for the whole of this account of the Atlanteans, some say that it is unadorned history, such as Crantor, the first commentator on Plato.

"Crantor adds, that this is testified by the prophets of the Egyptians, who assert that these particulars [which are narrated by Plato] are written on pillars which are still preserved."

The knowledge recorded on Pillars in the post-Diluvian period goes back to Gilgamish, but Proclus also considers that the tale of the Pillars is a form of allegory relating to Astral mythos, which is what the Pillars of Seth were generally considered to relate to.

Others again, say, that this narration is a fable, and a fictitious account of things, which by no means had an existence, but which bring with them an indication of natures which are perpetual, or are generated in the world; not attending to Plato, who exclaims, "that the narration is surprising in the extreme, yet is in every respect true." For that which is in every respect true, is not partly true, and partly not true, nor is it false according to the apparent, but true according to the inward meaning; since a thing of this kind would not be perfectly true. Others do not deny that these transactions took place after this manner, but think that they are now assumed as images of the contrarieties that pre-exist in the universe. For war, say they, is the father of all things, as Heraclitus also asserted. And of these, some refer the analysis to the fixed stars and planets: so that they assume the Athenians as analogous to the fixed stars, but the Atlantics to the planets. They likewise say, that these stars fight on account of the opposition in their circulation, but that the fixed stars vanquish the planets on account of the one convolution of the world.

Astral Lore



There's a strong case that what were taken as the Pillars of Seth related to the Astral cult of Sah-Sopdet-Sah and that forming the basis of Sethian Gnosticism and their considerable interest in the Zodiac/Archons/Aeons and thus the speculative interest in former ages and those to come, derived from Mesopotamian tradition, you could thus relate the Age of Atlantis in astral lore to an Age of Aquarius when this was at the Autumn Equinox and thus fated to destruction 13,000 years ago.

But others refer it to the discord of souls, the more excellent being the pupils of Minerva

a reply to: Madrusa

Wadi Arabah next to Midian is quite far north to be recognized as a shadow-less equinox at noon.
The western shore of the Red sea where the Red Edomites may have established a prime meridian is due south of Wadi Arabah. Potentially relates to shadow worship of a pillar of Seth. For a Prime Meridian of course they probably used a complementary star sighting at night which works with Sah being a god in ancient Egyptian religion, representing a constellation that encompassed the stars in Orion and Lepus.

Well thats my ear after looking at your post for just 10 minutes anyways.

a reply to: fromunclexcommunicate

The older version of the Sah-Sopdet-Sopdu triad was Arcturus-Spica-Regulus, the Spring Triangle of the Northern skies, Orion as Sah of the Southern skies dating to the onset of the Middle Kingdom, Sah translated to the Toe Star (of Bootes) see here. the Pillars are actually on Mount Sinai and related to three stages of ascent/descent.



And through Sethian Gnostocism the basis of Free Masonry.

The Three Steles of Seth clearly represents the same system as Allogenes; yet it is constructed as a triptych of presentations of praise and blessing to Autogenes, Barbelo, and the pre-existent One in connection with a communal practice of a three-stage ascent and descent. After an initial revelation and various blessings rendered by Seth who praises the bisexual Geradamas as Mirothea (his mother) and Mirotheos (his father), the rest of the treatise uses the first person plural for ascribing praise to the Triple Male, to Barbelo who arose from the Triple Powered One (characterized by being, living and knowing, and is also called Kalyptos and Protophanes), and to the pre-existent One who is characterized by the existence life mind triad. The whole concludes with a rubric that explains the use of the steles in the practice of descent from the third to the second to the first; likewise, the way of ascent is the way of descent.

Regulus in Leo is of course opposite to Aquarius, thus when Aquarius was at the Autumn Equinox Leo was at the Spring, in terms of contention between the East and West as an Astral basis for the Atlantean myth.

originally posted by: Madrusa

It's this association of Atlantis and the Great Flood that formed the basis of the Rosicrucian esoteric speculation, and it is important to note that the Atlantis mythos begins with a tale of (two) pillars.

Proclus wrote: As for the whole of this account of the Atlanteans, some say that it is unadorned history, such as Crantor, the first commentator on Plato.

"Crantor adds, that this is testified by the prophets of the Egyptians, who assert that these particulars [which are narrated by Plato] are written on pillars which are still preserved."

The Atlantis mythos began with Timaeus. Proclus wrote the above 800 years after Plato was dead. Even if he was directly quoting Crantor (and there is no evidence for that,) Crantor himself came two generations after Plato wrote his dialogues.

Plato makes no mention of these pillars - the only pillars Plato mentions are those of Herakles.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

That's true, the only mention is of the pillars of Herakles.

A lost passage of Pindar quoted by Strabo was the earliest traceable reference in this context: "the pillars which Pindar calls the 'gates of Gades' when he asserts that they are the farthermost limits reached by Heracles". Since there has been a one-to-one association between Heracles and Melqart since Herodotus, the "Pillars of Melqart" in the temple near Gades/Gádeira (modern Cádiz) have sometimes been considered to be the true Pillars of Hercules

Earlier the Pillars of Pillars of Melqart, which were the inspiration for Israel to translate the tradition of the Pillars of Seth into the Pillars of the Jerusalem Temple.

Herodotus -in the wish to get the best information that I could on these matters, I made a voyage to Tyre in Phoenicia, hearing there was a temple of Heracles at that place, very highly venerated. I visited the temple, and found it richly adorned with a number of offerings, among which were two pillars, one of pure gold, the other of smaragdos, shining with great brilliance at night. In a conversation which I held with the priests, I inquired how long their temple had been built, and found by their answer that they, too, differed from the Hellenes. They said that the temple was built at the same time that the city was founded, and that the foundation of the city took place 2,300 years ago.

So it's a question of whether the Pillars are only mentioned to give general geographic indication of the direction of Atlantis or whether that also introduces the whole baggage associated with those Pillars, the mythological astral lore and their connection to Ante-Diluvian knowledge from the Heavens

a reply to: Madrusa

The return of Odysseus to "Homer's 'Ithaca" in late October 1207 has been backdated by NASA computers.
Mythological enshrining of an early eclipse date appears to be the motive there.

Plato probably had an intended subject which forms the basic inspiration for the Atlantis myth.

Homer appears to place Atlantis in a sacred semicircular area west of Gibraltar, I wouldn't be surprised if that included the island Odysseus camped on with Calypso in Homers Odyssee(the track from the Gwen Stefani redux is still there -5.610~3).

NASA using super computers probably have been able to match up astronomical dates from antiquity to improve accuracy by several orders of magnitude for dating astronomical events even before the times of the pyramids in Egypt.

I would be real disappointed if Atlantis turned out to be just an excuse for empty rhetorical troll devices that rely on the glitter of gold and the lure of a "best".

a reply to: Madrusa

Armenia gets a mention by Berossus.

Then Xisuthrus knew that the earth had once again appeared.

He broke open a seam on a side of the ship and saw that the ship had come to rest on a mountain.

The voice then instructed them to return to Babylonia to go to the city of Sippar, as it was fated for them to do, to dig up the tablets that were buried there and to turn them over to mankind. The place where they had come to rest was the land of Armenia.

This was an area ruled by Enki, wonder if they also had a strange preoccupation with bugs, likely had the beer and sex side covered anyway.

In his Semitic form as Ea, Enki was venerated in Urartu, the ancient kingdom that thrived between the Eastern Taurus Mountains and the Armenian Highlands during the last quarter of the second millennium BC and the first half of the first millennium BC, under the name Haya or Hayya. His importance at that time is preserved in Armenia’s Persian name, which is Hayastan, and also in its original Urartian name, which is Hayasa.

Hadn't heard of Islam Enki, but it's a thing, Al-Khidr the "Green One" found immortality drinking from the Fountain of Life, Ma’ul Hayat. Enki and Ninhursags creation myth occurred at Dilmun, Gilgamesh also travelled there and met flood hero  Utnapishtim/Ziusudra while looking for the plant of immortality, on his return he's said to have carved the stela recording the pre-flood information he'd found.

The Bundahishn, the holy book of the Zoroastrians, actually locates a place called Dilamân “at the headwaters of the Tigris,” while the archives of the Assyrian Church, located in the ancient city of Arbil in northern Iraq, refer to Beth Dailômâye, the “land of the Daylamites” as existing in the same region. The Daylamites were a Kurdish tribal dynasty whose original homeland was Daylamân, or Dilamân, a region of the Armenian Highlands, where their modern descendants, the Dimila, or Dimli, Kurds live today.

More significantly, the Alevi revere Hızır (pronounced his-sheer), the Turkish form of al-Khidr, whose most sacred shrine is Hızır Çeşmesi, the Fountain of Hızır, a mountain More significantly, the Alevi revere Hızır (pronounced his-sheer), the Turkish form of al-Khidr, whose most sacred shrine is Hızır Çeşmesi, the Fountain of Hızır, a mountain spring with accompanying fountain that emerges from the base of a tree in the foothills northwest of Bingöl Mountain, close to the town of Varto (ancient Gimgim). Alevi come from all over Turkey to venerate Hızır at this shrine. They take water from the fountain, which is believed to have rejuvenating properties, and spend the night in a small, unassuming building next door in order to experience dreams of the saint.

Dilmun was also "the mountain of the spring".

The Epic of Ziusudra adds an element at lines 258–261 not found in other versions, that after the river flood "king Ziusudra ... they caused to dwell in the KUR Dilmun, the place where the sun rises". The Sumerian word "KUR" is an ambiguous word. Samuel Noah Kramer states that "its primary meanings is "mountain" is attested by the fact that the sign used for it is actually a pictograph representing a mountain. From the meaning "mountain" developed that of "foreign land," since the mountainous countries bordering Sumer were a constant menace to its people. Kur also came to mean "land" in general". The last sentence can be translated as "In the mountain of crossing, the mountain of Dilmun, the place where the sun rises"

Ninkharsag, a name that translates as “Lady of the Sacred Mountain.”

It is curious that Ninkharsag, also called Šir (or Muš), the wife of Enlil or Enki, is seen as one of the Anunnaki living at Kharsag, for a cult of the snake is known to have thrived on the plain of Mush

Apparently, the temples were located at Ashtishat, close to the road between Mush and Bingöl Mountain,

Interesting similarity between Šir and Edomite Mt Seir, also similarities with Eve, snakes and knowledge. Think Jews stole the myth and recast it in the Levant with them as the OG chosen holy ones. Bingol mountain was considered the world mountain by Armenians, and the place where the flood hero landed prior to Mt Ararat taking over due to church politics.

Armenians from all over the country would arrive at Bingöl Mountain every spring to give thanks to Anahita, the Armenian goddess of fertility, for the sprouting forth of new seeds (serm) following the harsh winter months. Many of them would remain camped in its foothills until summer.

This story suggests that Mush derives its name from the Sumerian Muš, the Akkadian Šir (pronounced shir), both meaning “snake” (even though in Armenian popular tradition Mush, as the word mshush, means “fog,” a name deriving from a story in which the Armenian goddess Anahita raised a mist so that her daughter Astghik, goddess of love and beauty, could bathe without any mortal setting eyes on her nakedness). If so, then the ancient snake cult known to have existed at Ashtishat (the principal seat of the goddess Astghik, whose symbol was the vishap, a word meaning “snake” or “dragon”) probably predates the arrival of the “Hindoos” and most likely relates to a time when the region was under the control of one of the Mesopotamian civilizations.

a reply to: fromunclexcommunicate

The role of Calypso has been compared to Siduri in Gilgamesh, if the Greeks considered a lost Continent across the Atlantic then the tradition should also be found in Mesopotamian tradition and likely Phoenician, Gilgamesh is given as entering the Scorpion Gate at Mount Mashu considered to be in Lebanon, as Scorpio was were the Path of the Sun intersects with that of the Milky Way it was a fixed point associated with the rising and the setting of the Sun.

He travels for twelve leagues which might be related to twelve hours beneath the Mountain range to arrive at what would be the opposite astral point the Pleiades/Atlantides and the Gate of Gemini and the setting/rising of the Sun, in a Garden related to what would be taken as that of the Hesperides and meets Siduri, but this can be taken as only the known extremity of the West, the Gates of Gades, for before him is still the crossing of the Great Ocean in order to meet the immortal survivor of the flood, and this he then crosses noting it's remarkable depth through the length of the punt required.

Epic of Gilgamesh

Hellanicus of Lesbos had written of Atlantis before Plato, so there were earlier Greek sources and tradition for him to use.

Poseidon coupled with Celaeno, and their son Lycus was settled by Poseidon in the Isles of the Blessed and made immortal.’

a reply to: primalfractal

What if Gilgamesh rather crossed the Atlantic to re-discover the Isle of the Blessed in search of immortality, were Gades was the mouth of the waters, the entire myth would be reliant on information suggesting that was even possible, but if those Sages were from Heaven they'd have known, and the Pillar he inscribed his account upon would be the basis for all Pillars related to the Atlantis mythos and the ante-diluvian knowledge, maybe Gilgamesh has been under estimated!

The Fortunate Isles or Isles of the Blessed were semi-legendary islands in the Atlantic Ocean, variously treated as a simple geographical location and as a winterless earthly paradise inhabited by the heroes of Greek mythology. The islands are said to be two in number separated by a very narrow strait and lie 10,000 furlongs ( 2,000 kilometers / 1,250 miles ) from Africa. They are called the Isles of the Blessed.

..where the air was never extreme, which for rain had a little silver dew, which of itself and without labour, bore all pleasant fruits to their happy dwellers, till it seemed to him that these could be no other than the Fortunate Islands, the Elysian Fields.

Fortunate Isles

originally posted by: fromunclexcommunicate
Homer appears to place Atlantis in a sacred semicircular area west of Gibraltar, I wouldn't be surprised if that included the island Odysseus camped on with Calypso in Homers Odyssee(the track from the Gwen Stefani redux is still there -5.610~3).

Homer says nothing like that.
That's YOU talking, not Homer.

Harte

originally posted by: Madrusa
Hellanicus of Lesbos had written of Atlantis before Plato, so there were earlier Greek sources and tradition for him to use.

Hellanikos wrote not a single word about any place called "Atlantis."
The word "atlantis" is a Greek word - attributing something to Atlas. It has been translated variously as "Atlas'," "of Atlas," and "belonging to Atlas."
The Sea of Atlas is the Atlantis (of Atlas) Sea - which later was called an ocean - and transliterated into "Atlantic."

Hellanikos' text is a book about the family "of Atlas" - the Titan Atlas. His descendants, etc.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

I stand corrected about Atlantis, the late October 1207 BC eclipse enshrinement symbolism for "Homer`s Ithaca" could be a projection as well but its attractive.

It is demonstrated that ancient sources, prior to Plato, mentioned a sacred circular entity somewhere West of Gibraltar. Homer in the 8th, Hesiod in the 7th BC, Pindar and Hellanicus in the 5th centuries respectively also wrote about it. We do not expect to read the name Atlantis in their texts, since it was invented by Plato as he clearly declares.

link.springer.com...

a reply to: Harte

Hellanikos wrote not a single word about any place called "Atlantis."

He wrote a book entitled Atlantias

Hellanicus is mentioned by his name and so is Atlantiás, the title of his lost book .....the names of Atlantides are presented, their associations with the Gods and their earthly localities. For instance, Taygete is associated with Zeus and from this association Lakedaemon is born. Another one, called Kelaino, whose name means the one who is dark in appearance or darkish in the skin mates with Poseidon and their erotic offspring, Lykos, comes to life. Poseidon places him in the blessed islands where he becomes immortal

it can't be said from a few fragments relating to the Atlantides what the work covered, but the mythological premise was covered before Plato.

John V. Luce notes that when Plato writes about the genealogy of Atlantis's kings, he writes in the same style as Hellanicus, suggesting a similarity between a fragment of Hellanicus's work and an account in the Critias. Rodney Castleden suggests that Plato may have borrowed his title from Hellanicus

a reply to: Madrusa

It's certainly possible Gilgamesh headed out to sea, surely if Atlantis existed the most likely place for it is the Atlantic, the Elves were always said to have come from the west.

I always liked the Doggerland theories.

Erlingsson has just published his own hypothesis, to no little amount of controversy. In Atlantis from a Geographer's Perspective he suggests that the Atlantis referred to by Plato could only be in one location, happily above sea level, Ireland.

At the core of his theory are two suggestions. The first is that Plato's description of Atlantis was based upon the geography of Ireland, and the second is that the cataclysmic events described in relation to Atlantis actually refer to the sinking of Dogger Bank, in the North Sea which occurred roughly around 6,100 B.C.

"In the book I erect and test the hypothesis that Plato based the description of Plato's Atlantis on the geography of Ireland, and find that with 99.98 per cent probability the hypothesis is true."

Éire Atlantis

Hy-Brasil is an Irish parallel Isle of the Blessed, it appeared on maps up until the 1800s. Hy-Brasil is said to be obscured by fog and only visible only once every 7 years, named for Breasal, High King of the World.

A land of youth, a land of rest,
A land from sorrow free;
It lies far off in the golden West,
On the verge of the azure sea.

Robert Sepehr found a couple of anomalous bumps on Google Earth that could've been it, a similar loction to the old maps.

Anyway the Atlantic is huge but the distance is not insurmountable, maybe Gilgamesh went right across 🤔

a reply to: primalfractal

I'm sure that what constituted the basis for Atlantis mythos has been found, the Americas, the New Atlantis, that didn't prevent them making more myths extending as far as Lahaina before they figured out there was no more West to be explored.

About twenty years after the ascension of our Saviour it came to pass [c. A.D. 50], that there was seen by the people of Renfusa (a city upon the eastern coast of our island, within sight, the night was cloudy and calm), as it might be some mile in the sea, a great pillar of light; not sharp, but in form of a column, or cylinder, rising from the sea, a great way up toward heaven; and on the top of it was seen a large cross of light, more bright and resplendent than the body of the pillar. Upon which so strange a spectacle, the people of the city gathered apace together upon the sands, to wonder; and so after put themselves into a number of small boats to go nearer to this marvellous sight. But when the boats were come within about sixty yards of the pillar, they found themselves all bound, and could go no further, yet so as they might move to go about, but might not approach nearer; so as the boats stood all as in a theatre, beholding this light, as a heavenly sign.

This is the Rosicrucians and Free Masons as the guardians of the Ante-Diluvian knowledge, the Hebrew version of such adapted from the Pillar of Gilgamesh, the not very good version.

"And this we do also: we have consultations, which of the inventions and experiences which we have discovered shall be published, and which not; and take all an oath of secrecy for the concealing of those which we think fit to keep secret; though some of those we do reveal sometime to the State, and some not."

a reply to: Madrusa

Maybe Hebrew not good at all version?

Once they exhausted expansion west the Rosicrucians, Masons, and spin-offs like the Theosophists continued mythmaking by targeting more obscure or inaccessible areas such as Tibet.

Theosophists tell us that before the launching of the latest "drive" to promulgate Theosophy in the world, the councils of the Great White Brotherhood of Adepts, or Mahatmas, long debated whether the times were ripe for the free propagation of the secret Gnosis.

We are told that in these councils it was the majority opinion that broadcasting the Ancient Wisdom over the Occidental areas would be a veritable casting of pearls before swine; yet two of the Mahatmas settled the question by undertaking to assume the karmic debts of the move, to take the responsibility for all possible disturbances and ill effects

More like swine casting mud at fools, but anyway basically more modern Divine Sage based fabrications, lost antediluvian knowledge just join our weird club sorta thing.

There's a comparatively modern version that gets play on the internet, Theosophist Talbot Mundy's 1923 novel "The Nine Unknown", rumoured to have 9 secret books including things like anti-gravity... unsurprising it's all unknown.

All About Ashoka's 9 Unknown Men, A 2000-YO Secret Society That Perhaps Exists Even Today

Yet for all the many dodgy versions there is some genuine anomalies, the traditions of the East are less corrupted by Sethian ways.

Bhu-mandala was deliberately designed as a map of the solar system. Until recent times, astronomers generally underestimated the distance from the earth to the sun. In particular, Claudius Ptolemy, the greatest astronomer of classical antiquity, seriously underestimated the Earth-sun distance and the size of the solar system. It is remarkable, therefore, that the dimensions of Bhu-mandala in the Bhagavatam are consistent with modern data on the size of the sun’s orbit and the solar system as a whole.

mathomathis.com...

a reply to: ContractedMercenary

Unless its a type of encrypted enshrinement.

Mathematically and not magically, how did Jesus feed 4000 to 5000 people with 2 fishes and 5 to 7 loaves of bread?

Intellectual nourishment for a young child learning math might be two prime numbers for example 3 and 7.
You can put the 7 next to the 3 like this and create a larger prime number 73.
And you can multiply 73 by 5 to give you a rough value for the number of days in the year.
There are some people that think Anno Domini is just the start of a Roman calendar..
And the perimeter of a 3 5 7 obtuse scalene triangle = 15
But if you need 3*7*200*365 you need more than just 3 prime numbers.
Of course the three days in the belly of the whale is just 3 subtracted from that.
But the multitude can't do math so they can't share in the miracle this way.

originally posted by: Madrusa

it can't be said from a few fragments relating to the Atlantides what the work covered, but the mythological premise was covered before Plato.

If it can't be said, then don't be saying he was talking about Plato's Atlantis.
So, the mainstream position:

. Jordan [11] believes that Hellanicus described briefly Atlas’ daughters, the so-called Atlantides. Let us view the text

And the extant text from Hellanikos:

Here the names of Atlantides are presented, their associations with the Gods and
their earthly localities. For instance, Taygete is associated with Zeus and from this
association Lakedaemon is born. Another one, called Kelaino, whose name means
the one who is dark in appearance or darkish in the skin mates with Poseidon and
their erotic offspring, Lykos, comes to life. Poseidon places him in the blessed islands where he becomes immortal (Fragmenta 1a,4,F.19b.4).

Yeah... think it's safe to say it's about the descendants of Atlas when you throw in the meaning of the word "Atlantis."

Harte

a reply to: primalfractal

It's interesting that Arabic myths and legends of the Middle Ages maintained the symbolism of the City of the Sun, whether as formerly related to Egypt or to be found on some mystical isle, such as The City of Adocentyn, Bacon's New Atlantis myth is doing the same, an invisible College dedicated to the light of science and reason except that the Solar archetype in that case is represented by Solomon, it's obviously in the name but they have still replaced the archetype of the actual Sun with the Jewish middleman as a Sun King.

It can be seen in the Arabic myths the theme of the Mountain of the Moon and the City/Temple of the Sun, were we could take Yah as a Moon God related to a mountain or Yah-Khonsu-Thoth in the case of Egypt, the Moon is in some sense a middleman in that it can eclipse the Sun, what some take as objective truth is rather lunacy.

a reply to: Harte

While what specifics were covered is unknown the work in general would cover Mythology/Geneology-Geography-History because that is what Hellanincus did, you can see in the fragments that Geographic regions are being associated with the mythological figures so to try and maintain it would only concern itself with the Mythology is silly.

Paul, at 2 Timothy 4:3, 4, foretold that at a future time people would willingly turn aside to false stories in preference to the truth. Some of these false stories are the kind told by old women. (1Tim 4:6, 7)

Fiction is still fiction, no matter how many people believe it or are intrigued by it (have their ears tickled by it, as described at 2 Tim 4:3,4).

Fable (Insight on the Scriptures)

A false story, fiction, myth, an invention, falsehood; from the Greek myʹthos. Myʹthos is found at 1 Timothy 1:4; 4:7; 2 Timothy 4:4; Titus 1:14; 2 Peter 1:16.

Myʹthos is the opposite of a·leʹthei·a, “truth,” signifying the manifested, veritable essence of a matter. ...